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A System For Handling 'Impostor' Complaints 165

Frequent Slashdot contributor Bennett Haselton writes "A woman sued Yahoo because they wouldn't remove a page created by her ex-boyfriend pretending to be her and soliciting strangers for sex. What would be an effective system for large companies like Yahoo to handle 'impostor' complaints, without getting bogged down by phony complaints and unrelated disputes? This is a harder problem than it seems because of the several possible cases that have to be considered. One possible solution is given here." Read on for Bennett's analysis.

When I first heard that Yahoo had been sued because they refused to remove a page created by the ex-boyfriend of a woman named Cecilia Barnes to impersonate her -- portraying her as a slut looking for sex with strangers (who obliged by hounding her office with phone calls and e-mails) -- I thought Yahoo's conduct was indefensible. Even though, as the court ruled, they may have been exempt from liability under the Communication Decency Act of 1996, what possible excuse could Yahoo have had for the way they handled the situation, exposing Barnes to months of harassment, when it would have taken them only seconds to review the page, see that it was obviously causing harm, and remove it?

Then I thought more about the consequences of the rule that I was implicitly advocating by making that argument. Obviously, if an ISP has a policy of removing a user's page if some third party merely complains that the page is impersonating them, then one of your enemies could get your page removed by filing a complaint saying that they were really "you", and that your page was impersonating them. But if the ISP has a policy of not acting on such complaints, then someone could create a user account pretending to be you, and you wouldn't be able to get it removed.

In both cases, there are two problems. One is the fact that the ISP has to have a way to figure out who is telling the truth. The second is that the solution has to scale well, even for a company like Yahoo that probably gets so many complaints about user conduct every day that it would be impossible to read them all. It should be possible for genuine complaints about impostors, to reach the attention of the right people and get an account closed, without accounts being shut down because of (a) people who file complaints about 'rude behavior' that get unintentionally mixed in with 'impostor' complaints by someone who is too overworked to read them all very carefully; or (b) people who file outright false complaints that a given account is an 'impostor', just to get it shut down; or (c) people who are really sneaky, and file complaints about things like rude behavior, but who craft the complaints in a way that is deliberately designed to get them mixed in with the 'impostor' reports, in order to get the account shut down (this way, if the complainer ever sued or otherwise confronted about the complaint that they filed, they can say that they "didn't lie"!).

It's hard to think of a solution that covers all of these bases. For example, John Morris of the Center for Democracy and Technology explained how many ISPs use faxed driver's licenses to decide impersonation complaints:

In many cases involving real people, the challenged site (whether it is a legit site or a bogus site) contains one or more photographs of the person involved. What service providers do in this case is to get the person to submit a copy of their driver's license, and the provider decides whether the person submitting the license is the same person depicted in the photos. And if so, that person is the one who can control whether the site stays up or not. This works in lots of cases (because pictures are often, but certainly not always, involved).

The problem is that even this could be abused when used against a company like Yahoo that handles an extremely high volume of complaints. Suppose that Yahoo publishes a standard procedure for submitting complaints about impersonation, that includes the requirement of a faxed driver's license. Abusers of the system would figure this out, and they could start filing "complaints" against users and websites by faxing in complaint letters along with a copy of their driver's license, where the letters were not complaints about impersonation at all, but just bogus complaints about other things like "This guy was mean to me". Because the driver's license accompanying the letter is real and the statements in the letter are true (or at least a matter of opinion), the complainer can't be accused of lying or forging government documents. And if anyone ever challenged them and asked, "Why did you send your driver's license with the complaint letter? Weren't you trying to trick the ISP into thinking that this was an impersonation complaint so they would take it seriously?", the complainer could play dumb and say, "Well, I heard that if you file a complaint against someone, you're supposed to fax your driver's license with it." But if Yahoo is still getting too many messages to sort through them carefully, some of these crank complaints could still get users' accounts shut down.

So now you have an interesting, non-trivial problem. Before reading further, it's worth thinking about how you would solve this. What's a good policy that would honor legitimate complaints, without giving cranks a way to get their enemies' pages shut down for no reason, and that would scale well for large companies like Yahoo? There are really two questions here: (1) What would you do if you were drafting an ISP policy and trying to balance the interests of all parties? and (2) What would you do if you were drafting a law requiring ISPs to implement certain policies, also while balancing the interests of all parties? (The best solution may be no law at all, but I think you would have to argue that position, rather than taking the default libertarian stance and simply assuming that. After all, the "no law" status quo didn't do much good for people like Cecilia Barnes who had a legitimate grievance and couldn't get anybody to listen.)

The non-verifiability of complaints is the same problem that I've posed to hard-core anti-spam advocates who have said that ISPs should have a zero-tolerance policy towards spam and cancel any account that is generating spam complaints. The problem with that is that unless the ISP has logs of all mail sent out by a customer (and if the customer is leasing a dedicated server, this would usually not be the case), the ISP can't tell for sure if a spam complaint is real or not. If they adopt a policy of removing a site in response to a complaint (or three or ten complaints), then someone could easily get one of their enemies' sites shut down by filing phony spam complaints sent from multiple Hotmail or Gmail accounts. (You would have to forge some e-mail headers to make it look convincingly like the spam came from the site in question, but this is not very difficult.) If the hosting company has a policy of kicking customers off in response to some threshold number of spam complaints, then a dedicated adversary could just file that many complaints until the customer was terminated. On the other hand, if the hosting company won't kick off customers for any number of spam complaints, then they have no deterrent against their customers spamming. (This is mostly an academic question, because I tried filing complaints against all the dozens of spammers who spammed me in a given one-day period a few years ago, and none of the hosting companies terminated any of the sites I complained about. I wouldn't have expected any of them to terminate a customer based on one complaint, but I assume that some of the hosting companies were getting spam complaints about those customers from other people as well.)

The big difference between spam incidents and impersonation incidents, is that while there may be no reliable record of whether a piece of mail was sent in the past or not, the fact of whether the Yahoo user "bennetthaselton" really is Bennett Haselton is something that can be determined with evidence that still exists in the present day. Some kinds of evidence are more readily available than others. If I were drafting an internal policy for an ISP on when to remove pages in response to an impersonation complaint, I would take care of the low-hanging-fruit cases first:

  • If the page directs people to contact the page owner at an e-mail address or phone number (as the page created by Barnes' ex-boyfriend did), and you e-mail the address or call the number and someone answers by saying, "No, I didn't create that page, it's a fake", then you don't need to do any checking of the real-world identities of the parties involved -- all you need to know is that the page purports to be created by the owner of that phone number, but it isn't, so it's a fake and should be removed. This would take care of the most vicious cases of goading visitors into harassing someone directly.

    (Although I'd make clear in the policy that this wouldn't apply to consumer pages about companies, telling visitors to call such-and-such a company to complain about their conduct. Encouraging people to air their grievances is legitimate as long as the page owner isn't claiming to actually represent the company. I'm ducking the question of whether this should apply to pages about individuals -- if I make a page saying, "My ex is a skank, call her at this number for a 'good time'," am I infringing on her rights? But since I'm not claiming to be her, the situation wouldn't be covered by a policy about impersonation pages.)

  • If the page is created by a paid user, then you can check if the real name on file with their credit card information, matches the name on the site. If it doesn't, that doesn't necessarily mean the page is a fake (possibly one person paid for the account while another one created the content), but if it does match, the page owner is probably not guilty of impersonating anyone. (Here I'm ducking the question of what to do if someone shares their name with a celebrity -- for example, if your name really is Julia Roberts and you create a page saying "Hi, I'm Julia Roberts", that's probably not enough to count as impersonation. But what if you talk about your interest in film and your exploits as an actress in local community theater, how much are you allowed to let people think that you might be "the Julia Roberts?)

  • If the page violates the hosting company's Terms of Service in other ways, then it can be removed without determining whether the page owner is guilty of impersonation or not. The Yahoo Terms of Service doesn't actually mention sexual content (they used to allow users to post "adult profiles" in their Yahoo Profiles accounts as long as the profile owner flagged them as such), but the document prohibits content that is "vulgar" or "...otherwise objectionable". I haven't seen the page created by Barnes's ex-boyfriend soliciting strangers for sex, but it probably violated the Terms of Service in itself.

And there may be other low-hanging-fruit options that I'm not thinking of. But what if there is no easy call, because none of these simplifying factors apply? A user creates a profile on a free site claiming to be Mr. X. A third party complains that they are the real Mr. X and that the profile is fake. What should the ISP do, if they don't want to spend money verifying the real-world identities of the parties involved, every time they get a crank complaint about any users on their system?

This is essentially an economics problem. Cecilia Barnes wasn't asking Yahoo to do anything that would have been too burdensome for them -- the "labor" required to look at a faxed copy of her driver's license probably wouldn't have cost more than $5, at which point Yahoo could have initiated the process of shutting the page down, which they already have built-in procedures for. The benefit to her of getting the page shut down could have been valued in the hundreds or thousands of dollars. Normally, when you need someone else to do something that costs them $5 worth of effort and brings you $1,000 worth of benefit, the natural arrangement is to pay them, but Yahoo doesn't offer this as an option.

In fact, I assume the real cost to Yahoo here would not have been actually reviewing Barnes's complaint, but actually finding it buried among all the bogus complaints that they receive, and noticing that it had real merit. Again, including a $5 payment would be one way to ensure that your complaint gets taken more seriously than all the others. But while the $5 fee might have helped in this specific situation, it's easy to imagine how that could set a bad precedent -- ISPs charging exhorbitant fees for users to submit abuse complaints to them, or users not filing complaints because they didn't want to share their payment information or pay money at all.

So, rather than paying a small fee directly, a better approach might be to require complainants to post some sort of "bond" -- which may not be something financial, as some examples will show -- in order to get their complaint to the front of the queue. Recall the example of submitting your driver's license along with an impersonation complaint. It's important to understand the subtle reason why this procedure actually works. It's not because someone couldn't still file a bogus complaint with a phony ID. (While it's somewhat hard to create a fake driver's license that you can hold in your hand, creating a fake faxed driver's license would be easy.) It's because if the complainant is lying, now they can be prosecuting for forging government documents. Essentially the complainant is posting their freedom as a "bond", going out on a limb and saying: "I can't prove to you that I'm telling the truth. But now you know that if I'm lying, I'll go to jail. Bet you the other guy won't be willing to make a binding promise like that."

So naturally I'd put that in the ISP's policy as well: If someone sends in a complaint about our user impersonating them, and they're willing to fax in a copy of their government ID proving that they are who they say they are, and we can verify that the page owner is claiming to actually be that person (and not merely complaining about that person or their business), then we would remove the page unless the account owner can submit even more compelling evidence that they are who they say they are.

This addresses the problem of the impersonation complaints that are completely fake. However, you still have the problem of what to do about people who fax in their driver's license along with letters saying "This guy is a jerk", hoping to get someone's account closed down. If a company like Yahoo is too big to read through all the complaints carefully, then it becomes hard to sort through the complaints to see which ones are really about impersonation and which ones are about other behavior that doesn't violate their TOS.

What might be a solution would be to borrow some of the non-terrible aspects of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. The two most controversial provision of the DMCA are (1) a ban on software that enables the user to circumvent copyright restrictions, and (2) a requirement that ISPs have to respond to copyright-violation "takedown" notices in a certain manner. As I've said before about the DMCA, I'm opposed to #1 in principle because I think software should be protected by the First Amendment; I'm not against #2 in principle, but just concerned about how it could be abused in practice.

But one thing the DMCA does is solve the "sorting problem" -- how to get complaints about copyright violations to the top of the pile. Service provides often have a procedure for handling DMCA complaints that is separate from the regular complaint channels. The DMCA also provides protection for users against phony complaints, by stipulating that anyone who files a false complaint can be sued for statutory damages and attorney's fees, as in a case where Diebold, Inc. agreed to pay $125,000 as a penalty for sending false "takedown" notices. In other words, the DMCA solves the "bonding" problem too -- by sending a DMCA complaint, a user is effectively saying, "I agree to pay big money if I'm lying. So, I'm probably telling the truth."

So, a law addressing how ISPs should handle "impersonation" pages, modeled after the DMCA to solve the "top of the pile" problem and the "binding promise" problem, might go something like this:

  • For a user to file a complaint, the complaint should cite the name of the anti-impersonation law, as in, "This complaint is being filed under the Anti-Impersonation Act of 2009". This gives ISPs an easy way to sort these complaints to the top of the pile, the same way that they have specialized channels for handling DMCA complaints.
  • In the complaint, the user has to assert unambiguously that the page they are complaining about is impersonating them, and is not merely posting gripes about them or their business.
  • The complaint should include a copy of a government-issued ID. (Again, this is not because this is hard to forge, but because now the complainant is promising, "If this is fake, I'll go to jail.")
  • If the impersonation page is directing visitors to call a phone number or e-mail an e-mail address, and the takedown notification to the ISP includes a request to call that number or e-mail that address to verify that it doesn't actually belong to the page owner, then the ISP should follow up on that within a given time period of receiving the complaint. (And once they call that number or e-mail that address and get a response saying, "No, that page is definitely not mine", then the ISP should shut the page down.)
  • Anyone who files a phony complaint citing that statute, can be held liable for statutory damages and attorney's fees, and if they faxed a phony government ID, then they can be prosecuted for that as well.

The problem-solver in me says that this is one way to ensure that legitimate complaints will be acted on, while making phony complaints much harder and riskier. It also seems to me that this is a minimal solution, in the sense that if you remove any part of it, it no longer solves the problem. For example, if you remove the part about complaints having to cite the anti-impersonation law, then you no longer have an effective means for these complaints to get to the top of the pile. And if you remove the part about civil penalties for filing phony complaints, then you no longer have any disincentive for people to tie up the system with crank complaints trying to get their enemies' accounts cancelled. Perhaps others can come up with an alternative solution that meets the logical requirements of enabling real complaints while discouraging fake ones. Meanwhile, the civil libertarian in me doesn't get a queasy feeling from it right away. It seems that it could only be used to stop cases of actual impersonation, and even as a free speech advocate I don't think that you have the moral right to impersonate someone else in a non-satirical manner for the purpose of actually deceiving or harassing people.

But even the absence of such a law is hardly an excuse for what Yahoo did. All they had to do is go to the page, look at the phone number, call the number and hear her say, "Yes, this is me and no that's not my page", and shut it down. The fact that they couldn't do this, shows a contempt for the process of handling legitimate complaints. Apart from the harm caused to Cecilia Barnes directly, incidents such as these might lead to Congress narrowing the scope of the immunity given to providers for hosting content posted by their users. Of course I'm technically suggesting a law that would narrow the scope of that immunity too, but only in a very narrowly prescribed way. If, on the other hand, Congress or the courts ever adopt the vague principle that providers can be held "jointly responsible" for whatever their users say once they've been "made aware" of it, it's going to get a lot harder for people to find Web hosting who have anything controversial to say.

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A System For Handling 'Impostor' Complaints

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  • Question . . . (Score:2, Insightful)

    by arizwebfoot ( 1228544 ) * on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:03PM (#27999153)
    Wouldn't it be better just to take the page down and worry about hurt feelings later?

    I would think that even if there was the possibility that a page was not right, that either someone could comment on it or it just be taken down.
  • by Brad Mace ( 624801 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:06PM (#27999199) Homepage
    While Yahoo would have the power to resolve her problem, it's her ex-boyfriend that's creating it. Sue him for libel/slander or whatever and take care of it that way. The courts can figure this out better than Yahoo, and have far more power to dole out the proper punishment.
  • By Neruos (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:09PM (#27999231)

    Identity. Identity is one of those things that is never 100%. When you can accept this, then you have the forfront to understand what can and can not be protected. Online identity using todays standards and technology would require a single universal PIN. Since we do not have OPINs (online personal identification number) and no one wants OPINs. Then you can never really prevent false information from poping up. But even if you do, OPINs can be stolen. The federal government can not prevent identity fraud, what makes you think a online web service can?

    So in the simple terms, you can't and never will until current standards and technology change. /why are questions like these allowed....

  • If your ex wrecks your car into a tree using an old copy of your key, and then sicks the cops on you claiming DUI via the tree's owner, you can sue the cops for not figuring out that you didn't do it.

  • by Brad Mace ( 624801 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:21PM (#27999469) Homepage
    On a more cynical note, her ex probably has a lot fewer lawyers than Yahoo does. Having Yahoo providing evidence as a third party would probably work to her advantage far more than attacking them head on.
  • Re:Question . . . (Score:5, Insightful)

    by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:23PM (#27999499) Homepage Journal

    By doing that Yahoo would be accepting some liability for the content of the page, and would open themselves up to being sued if the complaint turned out to be bogus.

    The obvious thing to do is let a court sort it out. That is, after all, what they are for. Just because it's on the internet doesn't change anything, it's a simple case of libel.

  • Re:Notary Public (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:27PM (#27999565)

    PGP keys for all, have them signed by a known and trusted source.

    Notary public of the 21st century!

  • by bzzfzz ( 1542813 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:27PM (#27999581)

    Ultimately, there is no substitute for having an actual human being review the complaints and make a judgment call on whether they are actionable.

    The federally-imposed system for uniform handling of credit card and charge card complaints might be an ideal model to use. It requires the customer to choose one of about a dozen specific complaints, supply supporting information and evidence depending on the nature of the complaint, and submit a signed statement. If the form is filled out properly and the story is plausible, the bank issues a chargeback and it is then up to the merchant to fight it if they wish. While the system has flaws affecting both sides, it works reasonably well and costs are minimal.

    The structure of the safe-harbor provisions in the DMCA is similar but simplified.

    Pushing individual cases out to the courts doesn't work because the anonymity of the person posting the libelous content is not known and often can't be determined with certainty.

    Yahoo, like eBay, is trying to claim that customer service is too expensive to fit their business model. So abuses flourish because of their arrogance. Some sort of judicial or legislative backlash is inevitable if this continues. Even Wikipedia will take down clearly libelous material if you ask.

  • by horatio ( 127595 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:28PM (#27999593)
    Suing the ex would get the court's attention enough that they could make a legal ruling, issue a restraining order/C&D, as well as direct Yahoo to remove the page. He, however, is a low-life with nothing to take in a settlement.

    Yahoo has the money. I'm not saying this particular person decided to sue because of the money, but you can damn well bet the lawyers who got involved told her she could get a big payout from Yahoo - millions of dollars. The obvious incentive for the attorneys is to take a 50% (or whatever it is) cut of whatever she gets.
  • Re:One would think (Score:3, Insightful)

    by bennomatic ( 691188 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:29PM (#27999613) Homepage
    ...and potentially, in some states, "Internet stalking".

    I agree there's a problem on Yahoo's side here, but I'm not sure of the best solution. That being said, if she had the right resources (money, a good lawyer who didn't need a deep-pockets defendant to take the case), she could have laid the smack-down on her ex, who--if he knew what was good for him--would have taken down the post immediately. In the end, she can probably take him for everything he's got, but because that probably isn't much, her lawyer is going to focus on Yahoo, for better or worse.
  • by sexconker ( 1179573 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:37PM (#27999757)

    Hey Joe, that moron is giving out conflicting info regarding the phone number listed on that page, and the voice sounds different when we call versus when we get a call. Check it out, will you?

    K. Beep-boop-beep.

    OMFG STOP CALLING ME.

    Wait, I'm from Yahoo!. I called from my cellphone, and I get routed to you. When I call from the office phone, I get routed to the other person. HMMMM.

    HMMM.

  • by Chmcginn ( 201645 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:39PM (#27999795) Journal
    As soon as I read this above, I got irritated :

    The second is that the solution has to scale well, even for a company like Yahoo that probably gets so many complaints about user conduct every day that it would be impossible to read them all.

    If your business model is based on your customer being unable to actually reach a real live human being, your company either should be set up to avoid complaints whenever possible, or your company is going to get a (probably well-deserved) reputation for crap customer service. But people like the submitter who expect that big companies can't have a big enough support staff to cover their complaints are part of the problem...

    Outsourcing your customer service overseas isn't always a great solution, but it's almost always better than conducting 'customer service' through emails that involve cut & paste from FAQs.

  • by LifesABeach ( 234436 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @01:52PM (#28000041) Homepage

    I believe the term is referred to as, "Customer Service."

  • Re:Notary Public (Score:3, Insightful)

    by julesh ( 229690 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @02:02PM (#28000233)

    .... We in the legal industry solved this issue about 3,000 years ago -- back at least to Roman Times. You need to establish your identity for a legal purpose? You go to a notary public [...]

    Except this isn't about establishing identity. There are plenty of ways to establish identity, like (as suggested in TFA) faxing a drivers licence copy (or other government-issued ID), which has the advantage of being much cheaper than getting a document notarised (which, at least where I'm from, can cost non-trivial sums of money... £50, I think I paid last time I needed the service).

    The problem is one of how to handle the process in such a fashion that you can have large volumes of people doing it, it doesn't cost a fortune to run, and there are as few mistakes as possible. FWIW, if this were a serious, frequent problem, I think Bennett would be on the right track. As it is, though, I don't think it's common enough to warrant the kind of resources he's talking about throwing at it.

  • by Registered Coward v2 ( 447531 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @02:09PM (#28000345)

    Suing the ex would get the court's attention enough that they could make a legal ruling, issue a restraining order/C&D, as well as direct Yahoo to remove the page. He, however, is a low-life with nothing to take in a settlement. Yahoo has the money. I'm not saying this particular person decided to sue because of the money, but you can damn well bet the lawyers who got involved told her she could get a big payout from Yahoo - millions of dollars. The obvious incentive for the attorneys is to take a 50% (or whatever it is) cut of whatever she gets.

    While YAHOO did not have to remove it per the CDA; they apparently promised to remove it and then didn't resulting in a possible breach of contract and hence the suit. If YAHOO indeed said they'd pull it and then didn't I would not find it unreasonable for them to assume some liability over results of leaving it up longer.

    As a side note, she should have gone after the ex as well; IMHO. Not for cash, but to get a court to order him not post the material again and take existing copies down. That way she'd have something to give hosting sites to bolster her argument to remove the material.

    As a side note, if she was underage when the pictures were taken then a child pornography compliant would be a nice way to say "Thank you for bring my friend." If she was of legal age; then could the lack of a model release possibly grounds for a DMCA take down notice?

  • by Seakip18 ( 1106315 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @02:21PM (#28000587) Journal

    I foresee Joe getting something like this in the future:

    TO: JOE
    FROM: YAHOO HR
    RE: Use of personal device for Yahoo business

    Joe,

    It has come to our attention that you have used your personal cellphone for Yahoo business. At this time, in Employee conduct and code booklet, section 5.a.1-No employee of Yahoo may use a personal communication device and conduct business on the behalf of Yahoo. All communication and conduct must be done on Yahoo approved devices.

    Need we remind you that all communication on the behalf of Yahoo needs to occur with either prior legal approval for non-approved devices or only on preapproved devices.

    You are docked 1(one) day personal leave and will need to attend a employee conduct class to continue to receive full benefits.

    Thank you,

    Yahoo HR

    As you can see, Yahoo, not Joe, must disguise themselves. If that means buying up a temporary phone # that get's thrown away after every call, so be it. A business asking it's employees to use personal cellphones for company business just sounds like a bad idea, when you're the size of Yahoo anyways.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 18, 2009 @03:48PM (#28001977)
    What if the guy had purchased billboard advertisements while pretending to be her? Would she not be able to cancel the advertisements while acting on her own behalf? How about a long running newspaper classified ad? Shouldn't she be able to call the newspaper and have them investigate possible fraud and cancel the remaining runs? I assure you that if I claimed to be a politician named John Doe and placed an ad contrary to John Doe's platform, a newspaper or billboard company would jump to confirm John Doe's identify if the real John Doe complained. I think what we want here isn't a knee-jerk reaction at the first sign of a take-down notice, but a system for investigating claims being made by individuals. I think that if Yahoo is going to offer a service then they should be required to offer reasonable customer support. Something as simple as calling or e-mailing the contact information published in the ad and asking her if she wants the page taken down would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. Sure the ex-boyfriend is ultimately responsible for creating the problem but Yahoo's refusal to investigate after being notified makes them responsible for allowing it to continue.
  • Re:DMCA (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Bigjeff5 ( 1143585 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @04:32PM (#28002585)

    Actually, if they are pictures of her person legal use requires the permission of both the copyright holder (i.e. the person who took the photograph or the person they sold the copyright to photo to) and the model in the photograph.

    This is why candid-camera TV shows and the like must blur the faces of anybody who doesn't sign a consent form. They can still distribute their film/photos, but they can't legally show a person who hasn't given them consent.

    Note that there may be fair use situations that would allow the use of the photos without consent, but these photos probably don't fall under that.

  • Re:By Neruos (Score:3, Insightful)

    by socsoc ( 1116769 ) on Monday May 18, 2009 @09:43PM (#28005949)
    You're funny. The poster's PGP key. Like escorts, let alone anyone but Slashdot-level readers are going to know what that is.

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