Has Bing Already Overtaken Yahoo? 319
nk497 writes "Microsoft's newly revamped search tool Bing has already overtaken Yahoo in the US and globally, according to StatsCounter. The net traffic watcher said Bing has topped Yahoo 16.28% to 10.22% in the US, and 5.62% to 5.13% globally. Though the firm noted Bing's popularity may drop off after the excitement wears off, the firm also said: 'Steve Ballmer is quoted as saying that he wanted Microsoft to become the second biggest search engine within five years. Following the breakdown in talks to acquire Yahoo at a cost of $40 billion it looks as if he may have just achieved that with Bing much sooner and a lot cheaper than anticipated.' Google, of course, still leads by a considerable margin."
Not really (Score:5, Informative)
It's hard to see how someone wrote this post today - when the same site shows that Bing surpassing Yahoo! only lasted for a day. TechCrunch already pointed this out yesterday. [techcrunch.com] Bing may or may not have a big impact - but I think it will take some more time before we know whether it will or not. There is certainly a very long way to go before it even begins to approach google.
Not so fast! Has bing bung? (Score:5, Informative)
TechCrunch: Bing was #2 for a day then Yahoo regained its place as Bing fell. [techcrunch.com]
"As Matt Cutts [mattcutts.com] (who yes, works for Google) points out in the comments, StatCounter updates every few hours, so there is also data for today already. And itâ(TM)s more bad news for Bing. Itâ(TM)s now down to 5.65% in the U.S. â" yes, thatâ(TM)s less than what Live.com was at last month."
Re:Not really (Score:5, Informative)
I've submitted stories before to only have them accepted up to four days later. That's probably what happened here. Shame the editors didn't catch it.
Re:Not really (Score:5, Informative)
It's not what happened in this case - tfa is dated today.
Re:Help (Score:2, Informative)
Try this for a general Google search, don't know about the Lucky one
Go to about:config (in the Firefox url bar), search for keyword.URL (in the filter input) and double-click the result to change the value there to http://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Search&q= [google.com]
Re:It's the apps stupid! (Score:2, Informative)
Migrating from a search engine simply is a lot of hassle now especially since it's diminishing returns
Huh? Migrating to a different search engine is trivial; just set a different home page in your browser, or tell it to default to a different one for the search box if it has one. The results from Google are increasingly bad. Most of the time now the top hit is wrong, and fairly often it's completely irrelevant. Relevant results are getting further and further from the top and I'm having to go to the second or third page to get a useful result more and more often. If someone produces a search engine that gives better results, I'd switch instantly. So far, the only one I've seen that sorts the results better is Clusty, and their database is too small to be useful.
Re:StatCounter's Baidu Stats is Alarming (Score:5, Informative)
I'm from StatCounter and I would just like to address your concern. The detection for baidu was added on the 5th March 2009 at 21.00 GMT. When a new detection is added it is noted on the visual graph (but not in the csv download).
Also if you look at the stats just for China you can easily see Baidu's dominance there [statcounter.com].
"Microsoft+Antitrust" (Score:5, Informative)
google returned these three first:
So I compared that to Yahoo:
Bing returned these three first:
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. - Joseph Goebbels
Does "IT Pro" run paid ads as articles? (Score:5, Informative)
Can Microsoft make a success out of Silverlight? [itpro.co.uk] Quote: "... Microsoft's Silverlight weighs in at just a four-megabyte download, and apparently takes just 10 seconds to install." Another quote: "So how has Silverlight fared, and can it really topple Flash?" Silverlight is far, far behind Flash.
Can Google or Microsoft get any bigger? [slashdot.org] Quote: "... Google, along with Microsoft, is so large and so dominant in its sectors, that both firms are hitting a point where their potential for profitable growth is limited." Another quote: "Certainly the pair of them own their key markets,
This is the article, published today, to which this Slashdot story linked: Has Bing already overtaken yahoo? [itpro.co.uk] But that article no longer exists, apparently. Now that link takes visitors to another article: UPDATED: Bing and Yahoo battle it out for second in search [itpro.co.uk]. Quote: "One stats firm has said Microsoft's Bing has already caught up to rival Yahoo, just a week after launch - but it's since slipped back to third." Bing hasn't "slipped back to third", Bing has dived in the ratings, and is now far behind Yahoo.
Re:StatCounter's Baidu Stats is Alarming (Score:5, Informative)
Our stats are based on aggregate data collected by StatCounter on a sample exceeding 4 billion pageviews per month collected from across the StatCounter network of more than 3 million websites. From this sample we analyze the sources of the referring traffic to compile our search engine reports.
Not acid3 compliant? (Score:3, Informative)
I just installed Opera-10 beta bc Opera says it is 100% acid3 compliant, and went over to Bing and chose to search for an image. When I tried to modify the search filter settings from the default (moderate) to no filter, the popup that had the checkboxes appeared UNDER the image windows, making a selection impossible.
As usual MS seems to be ignoring standards.
Uh, evidence? (Score:5, Informative)
Summarized [groklaw.net] PDF [groklaw.net]
Re:It's the apps stupid! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:It's the apps stupid! (Score:3, Informative)
The small database is probably what makes Clusty more useful, that and the fact it's not a target for spammers looking to get their malware laden sites higher up the search results.
Many such spammers only target google, and don't even bother attacking yahoo or msn...
Re:Not really (Score:1, Informative)
Re:I Still Don't Buy It (Score:2, Informative)
We could compensate for this bias in our reports for Worldwide/Asia/Europe/North America/Oceania/South America based on the total internet population size from each country. But this would mean manipulating the data, and we prefer to leave the data untouched. If other people want to build upon this data and manipulate it to account for any regional bias then they are very welcome to do so per our licensing agreement http://gs.statcounter.com/about [statcounter.com].
Re:It's the apps stupid! (Score:4, Informative)
Have you tried the "special searches". They have searches aimed at code for the major OSs - Linux, BSD, Microsoft and when I just tried it with "generic.h" in the Linux special search I got a bunch of hits on header files.
But there are also some specialized code search engines around - though I don't have pointers to them, I've used a couple and they can be quite good (and, of course, sometimes quite bad).
Re:Not really (Score:5, Informative)
Apparently it is the same search engine they had when it was MSN
It's not. You might have missed the story, but Microsoft had actually bought out PowerSet [wikipedia.org] to replace the old search engine, and that's what powering Bing.
Re:It's the apps stupid! (Score:4, Informative)
Yahoo mail is free because of advertising on their web-mail portal.
Which is no longer the cheapest option around.
For $19.99 a YEAR you get IMAP access and no ads in your emails.
For 0$ a year you get IMAP and no ads in your emails with Google.
I wasn't aware gmail even had IMAP access let alone for gratis but I would be curious to know how they can do that unless they are injecting adwords into your emails.
It's simple. They use GMail to better target ads. A robot looks through your e-mail messages content and when Google serves ads to you when looking at Web pages, they use that data to better target ads. This means you're more likely to be interested in the ads they present and more people click on them, making Google money from advertisers. It sure beats paying for e-mail and I prefer ads to actually be something that might interest me.
Re:It's the apps stupid! (Score:4, Informative)
For searching code, use Code Search: http://google.com/codesearch [google.com]
It's a lot more relevant.
But I agree that the new Google is irritating, with its pitiful attempts to correct spelling.
This is what you get when you dumb down the interface.
Re:Does "IT Pro" run paid ads as articles? (Score:2, Informative)
It'll happen when a "critical" Windows Update changes every Windows box's default search provider to Bing.