Francesco Fondi writes "An Italian Company is using RC scale model submarines to lay fiber through Milan's sewage system. The RC submarine used is the Neptune SB-1, produced by Taiwanese company Thunder Tiger. It costs ca $600 in US hobby shops." In Italian, but the pictures speak for themselves.
NetCrap Confirms Italian Internet service is shittiest.
Italian Internet service - new get your pr0n with Smell-O-Rama; special non-virtual downloads for those into scat!
Customer: My internet is backed up!
CSR: Have you tried Imodium?
Customer: My internet is intermittent.
CSR: You're out of balance upstream/downstream. Now that you have fiber in your sewer, you need more fiber in your diet.
I always thought that would be a good way to construct a community driven "Guerilla Net", that flouted the laws that seek to control our communications systems.
The other idea was to build solar powered WiFi meshing routers and attach strong magnets to them. A radio controlled helicopter would then be used to attach them to inaccessible places on high metallic structures, where they would be very difficult to remove.
Magnets are used everywhere that technology is present. All speakers require a magnet to operate. Computers even need magnets to focus CD-ROM lasers and move hdd heads. Magnets are pretty nifty things when used correctly.
This makes sense, I have been using RC 4wheel drive cars to run cable under craw spaces and in some cases, across long stretches of drop ceilings for a couple of years now. The great thing is that I can deduct toys from my taxes.
This makes sense, I have been using RC 4wheel drive cars to run cable under craw spaces and in some cases, across long stretches of drop ceilings for a couple of years now. The great thing is that I can deduct toys from my taxes.
This makes sense, I have been using "RC 4wheel drive cars" as a simple search string for auditing tax returns for years now.
How is it not a valid expense. He's using it the way he claims on his taxes, he's just ALSO playing with it. They make little specialist RC robots to do this, those are way more expensive. For a small shop this a pretty good option.
Interesting Idea. How do you handle the drag? Doesn't pulling a couple of meters of fiber (or worse: copper) require quite a lot of power? How do you navigate?.
Guys have been doing this for ages, it doesn't take much pull for straight runs. You can get pretty cheap R/C tanks at Radio Shack pretty often, which are quite good for this particular purpose in terms of price:performance ratio. The simple truth though is that today's R/C cars are fucking pissed off. I've got a rally car (saloon with the suspension raised) that makes 28 MPH. The Six-C NiCD pack regularly gets hotter than you want to hold. Actually, as an AWD car with low CG but high clearance and limited slip diffs, it might be an idea cable puller:)
You can't navigate if you can't see, there are numerous tiny video transmitters which will run off of ~6V, commonly available inside R/C cars or trivial to add with a 4AA pack. But if you can see the thing you can just tape a Mag-Lite to it.
** Neptune, the radio-controlled submarine from Sabattinicars, lays ADSL cables in sewers
The July issue of Focus magazine contains an interesting piece on the use of Thunder TigerNeptune submarine (distributed in Italy by SabattiniCars) to lay ADSL cables through the sewage network. Cristoforo Massari, a physicist employed by the council of Milan, remarks that this system makes it possible to reach any building or house without any excavating effort, saving a lot of money. And to think that someone still argues that modelmaking is a useless hobby! [sic]
You joke, but think how much money would Italy make if only they'd remove restrictions for their TLD registrations... apart from obvious IT companies, there would be a rush for sentences, like "justfix.it" or "letsprint.it" etc...
But no, we are italllians, we don't need no money, we have the sun! pizza! gangsters! Ferrari! mandolins! etc etc... so to buy a.it you need to live/have a company in Italy.
I want one. No, I want two. Not to lay cables through sewers, just to scare our local canoeists senseless, as a payback for all the times they've steered straight under my bow and scared the shit out of me.
All I can say is that Phillipe "The Mouse" Gaston [imdb.com] must be careful not to get entangled in those cables, or get embroiled in a fight with one of the subs, next time he escapes via sewers. (OK, OK, so my geography and history sux, but the facts should never subtract from a good Hollywood story.)
A guy I worked with (same company, different market) used to use an RC car to run pull string to run cat5, fiber, coax, whatever. Its not all that uncommon. Some of you might be surprised to know that they sell a cross bow with a fishing reel for running cable also.
What surprises me is that the sub can negotiate the sewer with all that shit in there. You would think the prop would have issues.
This recalls Google's Toilet ISP [datacenterknowledge.com] April Fool's prank. But there was actually a broadband-via-sewer called CityNet, which raised $375 million back in 2001. It also used robots to run the cabling. This story [datacenterknowledge.com] recaps that initiative, and can serve as topical reading while TFA is Slashdotted.
A few years ago thieves stole several kilometers of rope from newly layed pipes alongside a road near where I lived. The ropes were to be used to pull cables through the pipes using openings every 100 meters. The company was on the point of digging up the roadside to relay the pipes when a local farmer explained that he had a trained ferret that he used for such work on his farm.
The ferret pulled string through the pipes and that was used to pull rope which then was used to pull the cables through. I have heard that the same trick was used in the 1800's for telegraph cables.
Yes. Sea water is a lot more conductive than fresh water, so it blocks radio (except VLF...) more efficiently. Fresh water - well, put it like this, does your cell phone work when it's raining?
No Shit? (Score:5, Funny)
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Not this shit again.
http://www.google.com/tisp/install.html [google.com]
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If a shit submarine hits a fan your in much deeper shit than you should be to start with.
Though does morpheous's hovercraft count as a shit traveling submarine?
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Shitty Internet Connection (TM)
Feeling flush?
NetCrap Confirms Italian Internet service is shittiest.
Italian Internet service - new get your pr0n with Smell-O-Rama; special non-virtual downloads for those into scat!
Customer: My internet is backed up!
CSR: Have you tried Imodium?
Customer: My internet is intermittent.
CSR: You're out of balance upstream/downstream. Now that you have fiber in your sewer, you need more fiber in your diet.
Does this remind anyone of Google TiSP? (Score:2)
I think the Italians might ask Google about what they learned when they did it:
http://www.google.com/tisp/ [google.com]
I especially like this one:
http://www.google.com/tisp/images/tisp_diagram.gif [google.com]
Guerilla Net (Score:2, Interesting)
I always thought that would be a good way to construct a community driven "Guerilla Net", that flouted the laws that seek to control our communications systems.
The other idea was to build solar powered WiFi meshing routers and attach strong magnets to them. A radio controlled helicopter would then be used to attach them to inaccessible places on high metallic structures, where they would be very difficult to remove.
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10 watts is "hard to do?"
A 10 watt solar panel is about 1 square foot.
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Come on it's just laying cable in the sewers. (Score:3, Funny)
You'll probably (Score:5, Funny)
Load of Crap... (Score:2, Funny)
A sewer submarine? That's a load of crap...
An Italian Italian company? (Score:2)
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Their pizzas are spherical.
Fiber in the sewer systems? (Score:4, Funny)
Of course, the other way to get more fibre in the system bran muffins.
understandable (Score:5, Interesting)
This makes sense, I have been using RC 4wheel drive cars to run cable under craw spaces and in some cases, across long stretches of drop ceilings for a couple of years now. The great thing is that I can deduct toys from my taxes.
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This makes sense, I have been using RC 4wheel drive cars to run cable under craw spaces and in some cases, across long stretches of drop ceilings for a couple of years now. The great thing is that I can deduct toys from my taxes.
This makes sense, I have been using "RC 4wheel drive cars" as a simple search string for auditing tax returns for years now.
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How is it not a valid expense. He's using it the way he claims on his taxes, he's just ALSO playing with it. They make little specialist RC robots to do this, those are way more expensive. For a small shop this a pretty good option.
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Re:understandable (Score:4, Informative)
Guys have been doing this for ages, it doesn't take much pull for straight runs. You can get pretty cheap R/C tanks at Radio Shack pretty often, which are quite good for this particular purpose in terms of price:performance ratio. The simple truth though is that today's R/C cars are fucking pissed off. I've got a rally car (saloon with the suspension raised) that makes 28 MPH. The Six-C NiCD pack regularly gets hotter than you want to hold. Actually, as an AWD car with low CG but high clearance and limited slip diffs, it might be an idea cable puller :)
You can't navigate if you can't see, there are numerous tiny video transmitters which will run off of ~6V, commonly available inside R/C cars or trivial to add with a 4AA pack. But if you can see the thing you can just tape a Mag-Lite to it.
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Great.. (Score:5, Funny)
Surely that should have been "lays cable"? (Score:2, Funny)
In soviet Italy... (Score:5, Funny)
In soviet Italy, the crap is full of internet.
Slashdotted (Score:5, Informative)
If only the pictures would load, it seems to be slashdotted.
Google cache link: http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:phzPunjGi58J:www.hobbymedia.it/14893/sottomarino-radiocomandato+http://www.hobbymedia.it/14893/sottomarino-radiocomandato&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-a [209.85.229.132]
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I'm sure there's going to be a lot of band jokes coming about "blocked tubes" and the like.
I think the word you're looking for... (Score:5, Funny)
I'm sure there's going to be a lot of band jokes coming about "blocked tubes" and the like.
Instead of traffic congestion, we will have traffic constipation.
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Italians are sick people. The girl making out with an RC car is... interesting.
Mirror? (Score:2)
Italian (Score:2)
Yeah the pictures are probably doing a lot of hand waving and gesticulating.
And right now they're apparently screaming about "slashdot" while doing so.
Translation (Score:5, Informative)
Quick translation...
** Neptune, the radio-controlled submarine from Sabattinicars, lays ADSL cables in sewers
The July issue of Focus magazine contains an interesting piece on the use of Thunder TigerNeptune submarine (distributed in Italy by SabattiniCars) to lay ADSL cables through the sewage network. Cristoforo Massari, a physicist employed by the council of Milan, remarks that this system makes it possible to reach any building or house without any excavating effort, saving a lot of money. And to think that someone still argues that modelmaking is a useless hobby! [sic]
So... (Score:2)
... if "urine" Italy, you will get faster Internet - though I wonder if that means the ISP have bigger "logs".
And I don't envy the guy who has to clean the R/C submarines afterwards, either!
Please tag this story "it" (Score:4, Funny)
Please tag this story "it", so it's easier to find other stories about Italy later.
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You joke, but think how much money would Italy make if only they'd remove restrictions for their TLD registrations... apart from obvious IT companies, there would be a rush for sentences, like "justfix.it" or "letsprint.it" etc...
But no, we are italllians, we don't need no money, we have the sun! pizza! gangsters! Ferrari! mandolins! etc etc ... so to buy a .it you need to live/have a company in Italy.
5M depth and 2km/h, says the spec (Score:3, Funny)
NOT A TOY! (Score:2, Informative)
Movie sequel idea (Score:2)
RC Sub Promo Video (Score:2, Informative)
Terminator 5: The Elimination (Score:2)
A whole generation of new "It Came From The Sewer" urban legends is spawning in the dark even as we speak.
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Cable repair guy (Score:4, Funny)
It's all fun and games until the cable breaks and someone has to swim in there and fix it.
poor little Italian hobby company webserver (Score:4, Funny)
didn't stand a chance against a slashdotting...
Not all that uncommon to us RC (Score:2, Interesting)
What surprises me is that the sub can negotiate the sewer with all that shit in there. You would think the prop would have issues.
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In Italian? (Score:2)
It says "Database Error" - that's English!
Rotting fiber? (Score:3, Interesting)
How do they keep the fiber from rotting? Sewers contain all sorts of household chemicals, in addition to biological waste.
Other Toilet ISPs (Score:5, Informative)
similar idea (Score:3, Insightful)
The ferret pulled string through the pipes and that was used to pull rope which then was used to pull the cables through. I have heard that the same trick was used in the 1800's for telegraph cables.
The submarine (Score:2)
http://www.tiger.com.tw/product/5220-K.html [tiger.com.tw]
Re:In other news (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CzgSAJ5v_8 [youtube.com]
Looooooooooooooonnggg
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Max 5 meters depth quoted (Score:3, Informative)