Windows 7 Hits RTM At Build 7600.16385 341
An anonymous reader links to Ars Technica's report that (quoting) "Microsoft today announced that Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 have hit the Release to Manufacturing (RTM) milestone. The software giant still has a lot of work to do, but the bigger responsibility now falls to OEMs that must get PCs ready, Independent Software Vendors (ISVs) that are testing their new apps, and Independent Hardware Vendors (IHVs) that are preparing their new hardware. The RTM build is 7600, but it is not the same one that leaked less than two weeks ago (7600.16384). We speculated that Microsoft may end up recompiling build 7600 until it is satisfied, but it only took the company one more shot to get it right: 7600.16385 is the final build number. Microsoft refused to share the full build string, but if you trust leaks from a few days ago, it's '6.1.7600.16385.090713-1255,' which indicates that the final build was compiled over a week ago: July 13, 2009, at 12:45pm. This would be in line with the rumored RTM date but it is also the day Microsoft stated that Windows 7 had not yet hit RTM. Although the final build had been compiled, Microsoft still had to put it through testing before christening it as RTM."
It's Windows 7, and yet, the build number is 6.1? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Why is this news again? (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm guessing the same reason every new kernel release is slashdot news...
Nerds/geeks/whatever can use Windows, too.
Which makes an RC for what is looking like a pretty popular OS a pretty good candidate for slashdot news. More-so than, say, a statistic that says game sales for an extremely specific and narrow genre are declining. ;)
Re:It's Windows 7, and yet, the build number is 6. (Score:5, Insightful)
Regardless, it isn't a radical change. Just a code cleanup.
Pirate Bay on August 6th too,..... (Score:4, Insightful)
Some reasons that Win7 will succeed (Score:3, Insightful)
- Win7 is marginally faster than Vista, and it will run on far faster, more capacious hardware (on average).
- The beta/RC was a huge try-before-you-buy program, which lends itself to a more positive view of the product.
- It finally fits on a netbook, and those will be the rage once they start becoming really sexy.
- $99 just isn't what it used to be.
Re:It's Windows 7, and yet, the build number is 6. (Score:1, Insightful)
There is more, what about live streaming your home videos to your work PC? What about connecting your phone to the computer, drag and drop any video file, and getting it transcoded to the best format for your device? Be it MOV, MPEG4, WMV, AVI, etc. you name it. These are huge changes that benefit the user; but you are just not going to change your mind, is Microsoft so it must suck.
Re:Ok, I'm just going to come out and say it... (Score:1, Insightful)
What "new tech"? So far I haven't seen anything in Vista or 7 that would make me say, "I gotta have that tech!"
You haven't looked.
Re:It's Windows 7, and yet, the build number is 6. (Score:5, Insightful)
Wrong. Changing the specification (the "design flaw") is a change in version.
Re:It's Windows 7, and yet, the build number is 6. (Score:3, Insightful)
Is not a design flaw when you don't multicore cpu's; and that's when GDI was designed. You can think of it as an update to GDI to make it current again, which is a good thing and a new feature, not a correction of a flaw.
I hope you are designing your software with the year 2019 in mind.
Re:2008 R2 + Windows 7 = Direct Access (Score:1, Insightful)
No more freakin VPN's, bitches!
Check it out: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/network/dd420463.aspx [microsoft.com]
So it's a Network, that's Private to the company, but since it runs over another network, it's Virtual? Interesting... tell me more about this... NPV....
Re:Ok, I'm just going to come out and say it... (Score:4, Insightful)
I'm going to see how the adoption rates are for 7. I see a rocky road for MS; people are happy with XP, it's stable, and for most of us it's a f*cking desk. No amount of hype is going to convince me that I have to get a shinier pressboard and formica office desk; the one I have works just fine.
Application bloat will save the day for MS. It's already hard to manage a desktop of intensive apps and data on 32 bit XP limited to 3.5GB of RAM. 64 bit Windows 7 will allow larger apps and more data as the bloat continues to escalate.
Re:It's Windows 7, and yet, the build number is 6. (Score:3, Insightful)
what about live streaming your home videos to your work PC
wow, i didn't realise microsoft have started bundling vlc in their core build these days... nice.
DISK CORRUPTION, Don't Touch This One Yet! (Score:0, Insightful)
Disk Corruption Disk Corruption Disk Corruption.......This OS is NOT ready for RTM!
Re:It's Windows 7, and yet, the build number is 6. (Score:5, Insightful)
Win7 is lighter on system resources, to be sure, but the real catch was the OEM bit. OEM Vista installations were uniformly absolute shit. All kinds of pre-installed crap that ran at startup (including things which are practically impossible to cleanly remove, like Norton Internet shitware), some truly retarded default settings (yes, worse than the Microsoft defaults), and poorly-tested replacements for Microsoft binaries (usually functionally the same, but OEM branded and typically shadowing or outright removing the built-in software) made the OS run MUCH worse than a clean install on the same hardware would. Hardware troubles and beta drivers aside, I have not (in almost 3 years since RTM) seen Vista BSOD or otherwise catastrophically fail on a clean install. Yes, it happens on OEM copies. It would might happen if you installed a trojan or something retarded like that. Barring such stupidity, however, Vista is an extremely stable OS that performs quite acceptably on systems with 1 GB of RAM and a 1.8GHz single-core CPU (my initial Vista machine, a laptop over a year old by Vista's RTM).
That said, Win7 is definitely a major improvement in many areas. Vista, especially at RTM, really did have some truly stupid bugs.
A VPN by any other name ... IS STILL A VPN. (Score:5, Insightful)
You realize DirectAccess is just a machine level VPN rather than a VPN controlled by the user ... right?
You realize that having that connection always on is not a good thing when you get infected with some silly virus that wants to probe everything it can talk to and infect, right?
There are about 50 billion reasons why this is a retarded idea, and about 3 for why its good. Considering VPNs can be configured to auto connect already its really silly that you're all excited over another VPN package made by MS, which has traditionally had an absolutely shitty track record for providing a secure connection.
So go ahead, be excited that you have Direct Access, but just try to get a clue and realize its just another form of VPN which you need to watch for security issues and requires you to be locked into MS due to the use of a non-standard protocol.
Go read up on IPSEC if you'd like to catch up to how everyone could do this 10 years ago, including Windows with 3rd party software.
Re:It's Windows 7, and yet, the build number is 6. (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Great news! (Score:5, Insightful)
No, if they REALLY wanted to rip off Apple they would cut the price of Win 7 down to almost nothing, but then force you to run it on hardware that would have been cutting edge last year that you can only buy from them at nearly twice it's value.
Then they can offer all kinds of accessories to their zombies... I mean customers... Like a 1TB SATA ""Cable-free"" drive for $299.00 USD
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB984ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA0Nw&mco=NDE4NTE5Mg [apple.com]
Re:It's Windows 7, and yet, the build number is 6. (Score:1, Insightful)
One thing I wish MS had was some facility to have Windows 7 on first bootup for a preinstalled PC have an installation script. If a user wants the crapware, they can click the checbox and have it. Otherwise, it will be not installed in the first place, and the user has the option for keeping the crapware MSI files or binning them.
Re:Windows 7 SP2 will be released in two years. (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:It's Windows 7, and yet, the build number is 6. (Score:2, Insightful)
> packages hasn't been necessary in Linux for a few years now.
It depends what you're doing.
At work I've been putting together a demo OpenILS (Evergreen) server, and as part of the install process I had to do both of those things. Of course, this is software that you wouldn't generally install on a normal user's desktop, so if you were only interested in getting your email and browsing the web and so on, you wouldn't need to be able to do these things. But for all that, they're still undeniably useful skills for a more advanced user (such as a network administrator) to have.
Whereas, in the Windows world I think you pretty much have to be an actual application developer to have any practical use for the ability to compile software from source. (As for editing config files, in the Windows world these days you're more likely to have to edit the registry, but that's a fairly similar thing, conceptually.)
Re:It's Windows 7, and yet, the build number is 6. (Score:3, Insightful)
. But it's coupled with nasty DRM which requires all kinds of fun anti-user licensing bullshit.
Huh what? Can you elaborate what DRM got in your way?