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Steam-Powered Car Breaks Century-Old Speed Record 187

mcgrew writes "New Scientist reports that a steam-powered car has broken the 1906 record of 204 km/hr (127 mph) for the fastest steam-powered automobile, the Stanley Steamer. The Inspiration made a top speed of 225 kilometres per hour (140 miles per hour) on August 26. 'The car's engine burns liquid petroleum gas to heat water in 12 suitcase-sized boilers, creating steam heated to 400C. The steam then drives a two-stage turbine that spins at 13,000 revolutions per minute to power its wheels.The FIA requires two 1.6-km-long runs to be performed in opposite directions — to cancel out any effect from wind — within 60 minutes.'"
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Steam-Powered Car Breaks Century-Old Speed Record

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  • Disappointing result (Score:0, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @06:22PM (#29209285)

    Over a century later - and all they can manage is 13mph more!? I was sort of expecting them to at least double the record...

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @06:28PM (#29209379)
    And being based on petroleum gas, at least they should have provided with some sort of performance measurement, such as Miles or Km per gallon or liter?
  • Meh (Score:4, Interesting)

    by stokessd ( 89903 ) on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @06:50PM (#29209715) Homepage

    I have to agree with the underwhelming nature of only 13MPH faster.

    We now have a much better handle on material science and metallurgy. We actually have the capability to model the predicted performance and make design tweaks. We have the ability to machine to tolerances only dreamed about back then. And we have composites and alloys that weren't available.

    I realize that it's not a linear scale from a drag standpoint, but our victory could be due only to 1906 measurement error.

    Sheldon

  • Out of steam (Score:4, Interesting)

    by westlake ( 615356 ) on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @07:01PM (#29209843)

    The fate of the steamers is a cautionary tale for backers of projects like the Tesla.

    They were handcrafted for the extremely wealthy.

    The total production run for the Stanley was 11,000 cars in 25 years. Stanley Steamer [stanleymotorcarriage.com]

    No matter how you price such a car, you never generate enough cash to remain competitive in R&D - never enough to survive hard times.

  • Re:All oficial times (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Bob9113 ( 14996 ) on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @07:08PM (#29209931) Homepage

    Is there really anything scientific or technological that we cant do vastly better now that 1906?

    My guess is yes, but I can't come up with a good example at the moment.

    Here's an unbroken 1960's land speed record set by one guy with very little money working in his garage:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Munro [wikipedia.org]

    Very fun flick too, if you like hackers.

  • Re:All oficial times (Score:3, Interesting)

    by fooslacker ( 961470 ) on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @08:25PM (#29210631)
    Have steam engines really evolved that much since 1906? I mean materials science is better but I doubt (and I could be wrong) that we've pumped much R&D effort/funds into small steam engine design over the last 100 years. Anyone know?
  • Apples and Oranges (Score:3, Interesting)

    by srobert ( 4099 ) on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @08:46PM (#29210815)

    Okay, when someone wins an Olympic medal for the 100 yard dash, do you chime in about how they're not very impressive because you could cover a hundred yards much faster in a Ferrari?

  • by Burning1 ( 204959 ) on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @09:03PM (#29210977) Homepage

    What impresses me about this accomplishment is that it must have been achieved among a small group of enthusiasts.

    With the internal combustion engine, an amateur can draw on a huge pool of professional resources and documented knowledge to build up a high performance vehicle. In fact, very few people, if any are a master of every component on a modern race car - usually your race team will have access to suspension specialists, tire specialists, engine builders, aerodynamic and chassis design guys...

    There really can't be that many experts on the automotive uses of steam engines, and a huge amount of new development must have gone into this car - that's something fantastic.

    Materials have come a long way... But how much of of an advantage does that give you against the massive loss of experience we must have had over the last 100 years?

    I'm a motorcycle racing enthusiast, and even at my amateur level it's amazing how much knowledge is only available through experienced teachers. There are literally more in-depth books about programing in ruby than books about motorcycle chassis engineering and physics.

  • by flibbajobber ( 949499 ) on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @09:03PM (#29210979)
    Acceleration off-the-line is predominantly determined by power-to-weight (given traction). This is how the low-powered Caterhams and Lotus Elises can hang with the "big boys" using that metric.

    Top speed, OTOH is dominated by outright power and drag. Mass features little, hence top speed is typically dominated by heavier cars with massive amounts of power.

    Incidentally 60-0, and also cornering, should be dominated by mass & traction, but traction itself is influenced strongly by mass, making traction alone the dominant factor (ignoring aero which is increasingly significant at speed) - which is why almost any car with four good tires can pretty much pull the same braking and cornering (skid-pan) figures of around 1G. if you can find published 60mph-0 distances, you'll find they are usually around the 40 metre mark, almost regardless of the car model.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @09:34PM (#29211193)

    The Powell steam engine and it's associated motor vehicle was far more advanced than the Stanley systems and also more powerful and reliable than the Packards, Duesenbergs, Auburns, etc. of it's day. Powell was devastated by the collapse of the economy in the late 20's and his patents and inventions remain locked away somewhere to this day.

    Cars and Parts magazine ran a month's long series on this revolutionary inventor and his motor car in the early 70's.

    It was, as I recall, a horizontally opposed, 4 cylinder engine, ran completely silent and exhaust-free, with none of the dire explosion risks the Stanley Bro's systems had.

    Worth a read if you can locate the article series.

  • Re:All oficial times (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Alien Being ( 18488 ) on Wednesday August 26, 2009 @10:19PM (#29211495)

    Turbine versus reciprocating parts has to be a huge factor. A 1906 Stanley was ran like those old steam locomotives. This new one is arguably closer in design to a modern turboshaft.

    Steam is simply a lost art in automobiles. What's old becomes new again, though. An old steam car saved energy as hot water. Insulation around the boiler facilitated that heat storage. I recently read that the latest Toyota Prius saves its heated engine coolant in a vacuum flask when you shut it off.

  • Re:Meh (Score:3, Interesting)

    by u38cg ( 607297 ) <calum@callingthetune.co.uk> on Thursday August 27, 2009 @04:48AM (#29213621) Homepage
    Don't be too quick to assume that our mechanical engineering is better than in 1906. That was an industrial age, and the skills and capability they had in place back then were very strong. It's literally impossible to reproduce many of the things they used to do with modern capabilities (look up the story of the building of the new Peppercorn steam engined train for more of this sort of thing).
  • Re:Meh (Score:2, Interesting)

    by noisyinstrument ( 1624451 ) on Thursday August 27, 2009 @07:47AM (#29214681) Homepage

    Perhaps they've made 100 years worth of improvements to the car from a reliability and usability point of view.

    TFA is wrong in saying that 100 years ago steam cars were easier than petrol ICE cars, but that's not to say petrol ICE was easy. The management lingo term "turn-key" was invented a long time AFTER cars were invented that's for sure. Cause cars back then weren't exactly "turn-key" regardless of the engine under the bonnet.

    This video of Jay Leno's sort of shows what steam cars were like, though this one is 1925.

    http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=213453 [jaylenosgarage.com]

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