yuveraj writes to mention that Pranav Mistry, the brain behind the innovative "SixthSense" application demoed earlier this year, plans to open source the technology in order to get this to the streets faster. "Mistry’s decision has meaning beyond Sixth Sense. The desire of inventors is always to get their work into the market as quickly as possible. Usually this means waiting for it to be turned into a useful, profitable invention. Mistry is bypassing this by going straight to open source. There is no report on which license he will use, but whichever one he does choose he has put paid to the canard that open source and innovation are incompatible, for all time."
Not only have the "sixth sense" used for horizontal awareness, but also vertical awareness! Imagine having the instruments being "beamed" into your head so that you didn't even need to look at the dash to know the pitch and direction of the plane?!?
This could be a GOD-SEND to pilots in both military and civil use!
You may be disappointed to discover that the technology is more like multitouch gestures in the middle of the air with a projector. This has precious little to do with brain-computer interfaces of any kind.
Cannot handle the G forces, I agree. But too slow? Then why do UAV's still have human pilots via remote control. Humans are being taken out because the aircraft are much more maneuverable without a human body blacking out during sustained g-forces. Also, that pesky bit about losing trained airmen when an aircraft is lost.
UAVs still have human pilots because politicians would freak out and media hysteria machines would have a field day if you had fully automated drones flying around, with or without bombs attached.
Um... We do have fully automated drones flying around, both with and without bombs attached.
We do have fully automated drones flying around, both with and without pilots attached...
You'd be surprised what a good autopilot can do. Did you know the space shuttle, using 70s tech, lands itself, with the only human interaction being pushing the landing gear doors? No kidding hands completely off from orbit to runway using 40 year old tech?
You'd be surprised what a good autopilot can do. Did you know the space shuttle, using 70s tech, lands itself, with the only human interaction being pushing the landing gear doors? No kidding hands completely off from orbit to runway using 40 year old tech?
But...but... what about Hillary Swank heroically landing the space shuttle in Los Angeles in The Core
Is it me, or does this expression make almost no sense? Regardless of the intent I don't get why it follows with "that open source and innovation are incompatible, for all time."
Can someone translate this expression about canard?
The writer assumes this single example totally undermines the argument that "Open Source and Innovation are incompatible".
First, its a strawman argument. Nobody has said that innovation is incompatible with open source, at least no one has made a compelling case.
Second its a presumption of importance way beyond the merits of the case. It is neither the first nor the most important open-sourcing of a potentially lucrative idea.
This is Slashdot. You have to expect a certain amount of grandiosity in the story excerpts.
True, but the counter argument played out by the owners of patents and copyrights is that innovation would be dead if there was not stringent FBI level enforcement of I.P. including stringent fines and jail time. Well I guess that followed after those were commodized such that the owners of those properties were not the innovators for the most part, and the innovators are not the major benefactors of their innovation. Altruism is not dead, idea's don't have to always be owned and sold. I think we should go
There is no report on who will write the next one, but whoever does he has put paid to the canard that ZDNet and intelligence are incompatible, for all time.
True innovation takes effort. Effort costs money. Giving away your stuff isn't usually a good way to make money.
"Open source" efforts are generally quite effective at delivering answers to problems that are already well-understood and answered. Witness the whole Open-source UNIX phenomenon - UNIX was an long-standing operating system in the 1980s when it really started to gain steam, and it's downright ancient today. The problems of running a POSIX-style system are well understood.
I've been rightfully accused of highfalutin', but this was pretty impressive. On principles, I don't normally recommend writing to the third-grade level, but there is such a thing as too smart.
Perhaps you are trolling, but the phrase in question is "put paid" not "paid to the....". And it basically means the debt is paid and you no longer have to worry about it.
I'm personally more concerned that someone who went to MIT thinks that a technology that interacts with a person is a sense. For something to be a sense, in the accepted meaning of the word, it's going to have to convey information to a person's brain. And for it to be new, it's going to have to not use sight, hearing, touch, taste, or sm
I'm personally more concerned that someone who went to MIT thinks that a technology that interacts with a person is a sense. For something to be a sense, in the accepted meaning of the word, it's going to have to convey information to a person's brain. And for it to be new, it's going to have to not use sight, hearing, touch, taste, or smell.
If you follow it back to the original presentation (the "Demoed" link, you can see there is nothing even vaguely akin to a sense, although the head of the lab does use that term.
It is more like Microsoft Surface in a wearable form, sans the surface.
The sixth sense is accelleration. Sensory data is provided by the semicircular canals and is interpreted as sensations, therefore it deserves the title of 'sense'. Proprioception may also qualify, even though it is a derived/calculated sense.
I give this example to my children to teach the important fact that most every person and most every textbook on Earth can be clearly and demonstrably wrong about something obvious.
"Acceleration" is correct. The GP is taking advantage of the fact that we know from General Relativity that gravity and acceleration are equivalent. You know when you are upside-down by the direction of your acceleration (downward, toward your feet, rather than the more usual upward).
Or is it that the radius of earth's orbit is so large that the centripetal acceleration is actually quite small at any given moment.
I calculated this once. You weigh about 1% less at the equator than you do at the poles, due to centripetal acceleration. You can already sense acceleration due to gravity at both locations, but a 1% difference is so small, you would only notice it if you teleported from the equator to the pole in an instant.
I don't see how you can have a sense of acceleration. Perhaps change of acceleration....but acceleration? Categorically NO.
We orbit the sun, but i wager you have no sense of angular acceleration about the sun. The other senses are persistent.
And, by the same logic, we cannot possibly see cars as we cannot see paramecium.
I don't see how you can have a sense of acceleration. Perhaps change of acceleration....but acceleration? Categorically NO. We orbit the sun, but i wager you have no sense of angular acceleration about the sun.
Substitute the word velocity for acceleration throughout your entire post, then you are correct.
Aren't those just different applications of "touch" ? Essentially I know I'm moving or upside down because I feel the effects of Gravity, and the feeling of those things is purely because of the physical pressure applied to nerves. Or at least my limitted understanding of Biology would lead me to believe that, I never took full Bio in high school.
Wheras Sight is based on light entering your eyes, sound is your interpretation of mini air compressions around you, taste and smell have to do with different rece
I've never gotten paid for anything I've written. I give it all away. The reward is called "Pride"
As a society we simply need to find a way to make sure people like Pranav Mistry have gainful employment while they devlop things like this. As long as I have a decent job that pays my bills and afords me the time to work on software, I will continue to do so. But when employment barely pays my rent and my managers expect me to come in early and work late to the point that I have no time to do anything rewarding at all, everyone suffers because I can not continue to work on things that may or may not be profitable in the end.
In my opinion the biggest obstacle in the way of innovation is profit.
I've never gotten paid for anything I've written. I give it all away. The reward is called "Pride"
As a society we simply need to find a way to make sure people like Pranav Mistry have gainful employment while they devlop things like this. As long as I have a decent job that pays my bills and afords me the time to work on software, I will continue to do so. But when employment barely pays my rent and my managers expect me to come in early and work late to the point that I have no time to do anything rewarding at all, everyone suffers because I can not continue to work on things that may or may not be profitable in the end.
In my opinion the biggest obstacle in the way of innovation is profit.
I think you misunderstand the idea of what profit is. Re-read what you wrote,
"to the point that I have no time to do anything rewarding at all"
How are you profiting there?
"As long as I have a decent job that pays my bills and afords me the time to work on software"
You are profiting here. But by your logic, if profit stands in the way of innovation, your having a job would stand in the way of your working on this software.
"As a society we simply need to find a way to make sure people like Pranav Mistry have gainful employment while they develop things like this."
Not everyone values this as much as you may. If what he develops is truly valued by others, they will actually pay for it. You will give up some of your money - which came from time and effort on your part - to compensate him for his time and
Ever since watching the sixth sense TED conference, I've been wanting this, but I want the light projected in something you can't see unless you are wearing special glasses. That way the person I'm tagging doesn't know I've just printed on his chest that he's an idiot to avoid.
Exactly what I was thinking. I want the "gargoyle" like glasses from Stephenson's (and others) sci fi. Augmented Reality that visually appears like in the TED video, but is instead projected on the inside of the glasses or onto my eyeballs directly. A few high-quality cameras could map the 3D space so the projection could "wrap around the paper towels" or simply hover above it.
I mean, the tech is cool, don't get me wrong. Having dealt with multitouch for some years now I get it. But seriously, would anyone want to strap on a backpack, attach a bunch of gizmos to his chest, tape colors to his fingers, only to display PRE-PROGRAMMED information? I mean, the video of him is all marketing gimmick. A preloaded video of Barack Obama on the newspaper, clever bit of camera trickery. I don't see this gaining traction anymore than those wearable computers with the little lcd screen in
It's not a terrible concept, it's simply a solution looking for a problem.
But seriously, would anyone want to strap on a backpack, attach a bunch of gizmos to his chest, tape colors to his fingers, only to display PRE-PROGRAMMED information?
The object he's showing is a prototype and will naturally have a larger form-factor relative to any final product. The reason for the backpack is to have something to hold his dev machine which runs the software. This can easily be put into a smaller computer or micro-controller at some later point in time. And all those gizmos amount to the coordination of multiple devices: web cam and projector, simply because no one has thought to
Don't be such a jerk. There are plenty of reasons to be sceptical about the utility of such a system. The history of technology development has plenty of "clever" ideas that were ultimately dead ends (eg Cue Cat). "Find that killer app" is very difficult step. Your example didn't convince me since none of those activities (reading, email, teleconference) can't already be done as good or better with a laptop or handheld computer.
not sure about that. seeing the ted video got me very interested. it would be quite cool to point this thing at a bus schedule to get delays projected on it, or see that there's bad weather at the end of my flight so i can plan for possible delays. or display prices or availability of a specific product in other neraby shops. or give me on-product "clickable" list of all additives so that i can figure out which ones i don't want to consume (even better - just allow me to preconfigure list of substances to av
HMD production. If it doesn't some one is asleep at the wheel. For a concept demonstration, projecting stuff onto the real world is fine, but in practice it is horrible. The missing link for effective augmented reality like this is an effective variable transparency head mounted displays. I hope something like this [youtube.com]makes it to mass market sooner rather than later.
The stuff that comes out of upper floors of the Media Lab generally don't commercialize well. Anyone remember Charmed Technologies? A couple of grads from the same group tried to commercialize wearable computers - the company didn't survive the bubble collapsing.
The first floor of the Media Lab is different; they're more like traditional researchers and work on things like e-ink. But the upper floors generate demo after demo, that look cute and generate press, but not much commercial value.
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Imagine the uses for aviation?!?! (Score:2)
Not only have the "sixth sense" used for horizontal awareness, but also vertical awareness! Imagine having the instruments being "beamed" into your head so that you didn't even need to look at the dash to know the pitch and direction of the plane?!?
This could be a GOD-SEND to pilots in both military and civil use!
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You may be disappointed to discover that the technology is more like multitouch gestures in the middle of the air with a projector. This has precious little to do with brain-computer interfaces of any kind.
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Pilots are being taken out (Score:2)
Too slow, can't handle the G forces etc.
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Um... We do have fully automated drones flying around, both with and without bombs attached.
We do have fully automated drones flying around, both with and without pilots attached...
You'd be surprised what a good autopilot can do. Did you know the space shuttle, using 70s tech, lands itself, with the only human interaction being pushing the landing gear doors? No kidding hands completely off from orbit to runway using 40 year old tech?
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You'd be surprised what a good autopilot can do. Did you know the space shuttle, using 70s tech, lands itself, with the only human interaction being pushing the landing gear doors? No kidding hands completely off from orbit to runway using 40 year old tech?
But...but... what about Hillary Swank heroically landing the space shuttle in Los Angeles in The Core
Don't tell me that movie was gasp! inaccurate!
Re:Imagine the uses for aviation?!?! (Score:4, Funny)
Imagine having the instruments being "beamed" into your head
Exactly! Just like this fluid gets into this egg, but with gamma radiation! (This post has been beamed into your brain by Lightspeed Brand Briefs).
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Even worse, I see dumb people. ... All the time. They're everywhere.
paid to the canard? (Score:4, Interesting)
Is it me, or does this expression make almost no sense? Regardless of the intent I don't get why it follows with "that open source and innovation are incompatible, for all time."
Can someone translate this expression about canard?
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The writer assumes this single example totally undermines the argument that "Open Source and Innovation are incompatible".
First, its a strawman argument. Nobody has said that innovation is incompatible with open source, at least no one has made a compelling case.
Second its a presumption of importance way beyond the merits of the case. It is neither the first nor the most important open-sourcing of a potentially lucrative idea.
This is Slashdot. You have to expect a certain amount of grandiosity in the story excerpts.
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True, but the counter argument played out by the owners of patents and copyrights is that innovation would be dead if there was not stringent FBI level enforcement of I.P. including stringent fines and jail time. Well I guess that followed after those were commodized such that the owners of those properties were not the innovators for the most part, and the innovators are not the major benefactors of their innovation. Altruism is not dead, idea's don't have to always be owned and sold. I think we should go
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Parent put it very nicely.
The article is horrible. It's like me saying:
There is no report on who will write the next one, but whoever does he has put paid to the canard that ZDNet and intelligence are incompatible, for all time.
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True innovation takes effort. Effort costs money. Giving away your stuff isn't usually a good way to make money.
"Open source" efforts are generally quite effective at delivering answers to problems that are already well-understood and answered. Witness the whole Open-source UNIX phenomenon - UNIX was an long-standing operating system in the 1980s when it really started to gain steam, and it's downright ancient today. The problems of running a POSIX-style system are well understood.
The BASH shell and environ
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You missed a step.
It's more like this:
True innovation takes inspiration. Inspiration/innovation takes effort. Effort costs time. Time can cost money, or it can cost effort.
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"put paid" -- to finish something off
"canard" -- a false or unfounded report or story
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"put paid to" [phrases.org.uk]
"canard" [eb.com] (see def 1b)
I've been rightfully accused of highfalutin', but this was pretty impressive. On principles, I don't normally recommend writing to the third-grade level, but there is such a thing as too smart.
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It was an expression I had not heard of before. Still interesting and nice to see slashdot provide the education of the term which I was lacking :)
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Perhaps you are trolling, but the phrase in question is "put paid" not "paid to the ....". And it basically means the debt is paid and you no longer have to worry about it.
I'm personally more concerned that someone who went to MIT thinks that a technology that interacts with a person is a sense. For something to be a sense, in the accepted meaning of the word, it's going to have to convey information to a person's brain. And for it to be new, it's going to have to not use sight, hearing, touch, taste, or sm
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I'm personally more concerned that someone who went to MIT thinks that a technology that interacts with a person is a sense. For something to be a sense, in the accepted meaning of the word, it's going to have to convey information to a person's brain. And for it to be new, it's going to have to not use sight, hearing, touch, taste, or smell.
If you follow it back to the original presentation (the "Demoed" link, you can see there is nothing even vaguely akin to a sense, although the head of the lab does use that term.
It is more like Microsoft Surface in a wearable form, sans the surface.
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The sixth sense is accelleration. Sensory data is provided by the semicircular canals and is interpreted as sensations, therefore it deserves the title of 'sense'. Proprioception may also qualify, even though it is a derived/calculated sense.
I give this example to my children to teach the important fact that most every person and most every textbook on Earth can be clearly and demonstrably wrong about something obvious.
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I'm not so sure acceleration is the proper way to describe it; because it also tells you when you are upside down
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So... it detects the direction of gravity... or more accurately, the direction of acceleration due to gravity.
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"Acceleration" is correct. The GP is taking advantage of the fact that we know from General Relativity that gravity and acceleration are equivalent. You know when you are upside-down by the direction of your acceleration (downward, toward your feet, rather than the more usual upward).
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Interesting point.
Is it that we can't sense acceleration at all, or is it that we are accustomed to the angular acceleration of orbiting the sun?
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Or is it that the radius of earth's orbit is so large that the centripetal acceleration is actually quite small at any given moment.
Perhaps we can sense acceleration above a certain magnitude?
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I calculated this once. You weigh about 1% less at the equator than you do at the poles, due to centripetal acceleration. You can already sense acceleration due to gravity at both locations, but a 1% difference is so small, you would only notice it if you teleported from the equator to the pole in an instant.
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I don't see how you can have a sense of acceleration. Perhaps change of acceleration....but acceleration? Categorically NO. We orbit the sun, but i wager you have no sense of angular acceleration about the sun. The other senses are persistent.
And, by the same logic, we cannot possibly see cars as we cannot see paramecium.
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I don't see how you can have a sense of acceleration. Perhaps change of acceleration....but acceleration? Categorically NO.
We orbit the sun, but i wager you have no sense of angular acceleration about the sun.
Substitute the word velocity for acceleration throughout your entire post, then you are correct.
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Aren't those just different applications of "touch" ? Essentially I know I'm moving or upside down because I feel the effects of Gravity, and the feeling of those things is purely because of the physical pressure applied to nerves. Or at least my limitted understanding of Biology would lead me to believe that, I never took full Bio in high school.
Wheras Sight is based on light entering your eyes, sound is your interpretation of mini air compressions around you, taste and smell have to do with different rece
lol (Score:4, Insightful)
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So, you want the government to ________ ??
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Hear Hear,
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I've never gotten paid for anything I've written. I give it all away. The reward is called "Pride" As a society we simply need to find a way to make sure people like Pranav Mistry have gainful employment while they devlop things like this. As long as I have a decent job that pays my bills and afords me the time to work on software, I will continue to do so. But when employment barely pays my rent and my managers expect me to come in early and work late to the point that I have no time to do anything rewarding at all, everyone suffers because I can not continue to work on things that may or may not be profitable in the end. In my opinion the biggest obstacle in the way of innovation is profit.
I think you misunderstand the idea of what profit is. Re-read what you wrote,
"to the point that I have no time to do anything rewarding at all"
How are you profiting there?
"As long as I have a decent job that pays my bills and afords me the time to work on software"
You are profiting here. But by your logic, if profit stands in the way of innovation, your having a job would stand in the way of your working on this software.
"As a society we simply need to find a way to make sure people like Pranav Mistry have gainful employment while they develop things like this."
Not everyone values this as much as you may. If what he develops is truly valued by others, they will actually pay for it. You will give up some of your money - which came from time and effort on your part - to compensate him for his time and
heh. I want this. (Score:2)
Ever since watching the sixth sense TED conference, I've been wanting this, but I want the light projected in something you can't see unless you are wearing special glasses. That way the person I'm tagging doesn't know I've just printed on his chest that he's an idiot to avoid.
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Exactly what I was thinking. I want the "gargoyle" like glasses from Stephenson's (and others) sci fi. Augmented Reality that visually appears like in the TED video, but is instead projected on the inside of the glasses or onto my eyeballs directly. A few high-quality cameras could map the 3D space so the projection could "wrap around the paper towels" or simply hover above it.
I don't get it... (Score:2, Interesting)
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But seriously, would anyone want to strap on a backpack, attach a bunch of gizmos to his chest, tape colors to his fingers, only to display PRE-PROGRAMMED information?
The object he's showing is a prototype and will naturally have a larger form-factor relative to any final product. The reason for the backpack is to have something to hold his dev machine which runs the software. This can easily be put into a smaller computer or micro-controller at some later point in time. And all those gizmos amount to the coordination of multiple devices: web cam and projector, simply because no one has thought to
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not sure about that. seeing the ted video got me very interested. it would be quite cool to point this thing at a bus schedule to get delays projected on it, or see that there's bad weather at the end of my flight so i can plan for possible delays.
or display prices or availability of a specific product in other neraby shops. or give me on-product "clickable" list of all additives so that i can figure out which ones i don't want to consume (even better - just allow me to preconfigure list of substances to av
Can't wait to see it being used on the streets (Score:2)
Simple English Slashdot, Please (Score:3, Interesting)
Now there's a new one. *fumbles through idiom dictionary*
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Meaning
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/293200.html [phrases.org.uk]
"Canard"
Meaning: a false or unfounded report or story
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This should drive... (Score:2)
HMD production. If it doesn't some one is asleep at the wheel. For a concept demonstration, projecting stuff onto the real world is fine, but in practice it is horrible. The missing link for effective augmented reality like this is an effective variable transparency head mounted displays. I hope something like this [youtube.com]makes it to mass market sooner rather than later.
Media Lab? Unless it comes from the 1st floor... (Score:3, Interesting)
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Truly a great America. No, wait, was he?
Never mind, I won't believe it until Netcraft confirms it.