Many readers are submitting stories related to Google Chrome OS. ruphus13 points out a GigaOm opinion piece about how, if users end up rejecting its current cloud-only focus, the nascent OS may succeed as a netbook secondary operating system alongside Windows (in company with secondaries based on other Linux flavors, including Android). Engadget reviews a Chrome OS on a USB key setup that is claimed to offer eye-opening performance compared to running under virtualization. And an anonymous reader notes the 0.1 beta release of ChromeShell, which installs a "Chrome OS-like" environment that boots to the Chrome browser in ~3 seconds; users can switch to Windows later as desired.
Good point, I have Win 7 on a Dell Mini 10 with 1GB of RAM, it boots to the login screen in about 30 seconds and comes out of standby mode in about 5 seconds. Considering how much more it is actually loading on Windows, it seems Google still has a long way to go until instant on is a reality.
ChromeShell isn't Google. ChromeOS boots to a login screen in less than 10 seconds off a USB key for me. But it doesn't support my wifi. It does support the wifi on my wife's gateway netbook though.. but doesn't support her verizon card.
It doesn't support it on my laptop either. It does boot up quickly. And it does boot up, it scrolls very very slowly. Even on my desktop, with a quadcore processor, it is very slow. I suppose that that may be due to video drivers.
And redundant services that you'll never use for your entire life but that are enabled by default. Someone I know has a malwatre infected Windows XP machine. By simply taking 30mins of my time I reduced the bootup time for 15min to 20 seconds, including the Novell login procedure. When explorer comes up the system is actually usable instead of loading taskbar apps for another 4 minutes...
Of course if you even read the slashdot summary you would see that ChromeShell is a 'ChromeOS like' type thing, and not ChromeOS at all.
ChromeOS boots (that's full bootup and not resuming) in 7 seconds, and resumes in 3. They're working with bios firmware vendors to improve this though so boot times could become even less
All it does is has Windows start the Chrome browser on startup instead of explorer.exe. Not really much to see here, unless you REALLY don't need the taskbar, desktop, and file browsing capabilities of Explorer.
BeOS FTW. Loaded in 10 seconds after POST on a 300 MHz K6/2 Compaq with 48 MB RAM. Ten years ago. Yes, new OSs do more, but the point of Chrome is to be a stripped-down OS that runs nothing but a browser, unlike BeOS which had a webserver, 3D support, and lots of other good stuff going on.
Oh, and the first PC I used (an AT or XT, 8086 or 8088, I forget) went from power off to a C: prompt in 7 seconds. And QNX has done some cool stuff too.
If 90% of what a user does is web browsing and email, that sounds like a good bet. If you push "on" and have it up and running in a few seconds, who would bother going into Windows? You'd only need to boot to Windows when doing some office work or the like, and that boot option would be a quick-click icon. If you primarily do office work with it, then you'd want a full-blown "regular" laptop anyhow instead of a netbook.
However, I imagine that Microsoft will find some way to sabotage multi-OS-boot options via screwy licensing and pricing games.
I don't think ChromeOS will catch on as an "early boot" option any more than some of the options the BIOS manufacturers have been pitching for a few years. The benefits of ChromeOS are pretty much mitigated by sticking it on a full laptop -- you're lugging a fully-featured computer around and you don't have access to any of it, and you could get the whole thing just by waiting around another 30 seconds.
ChromeOS is about having a bare minimum of hardware required to have a smooth internet experience. It's about the proliferation of internet access, always having something nearby that will connect you to whatever you're looking for.
ChromeOS is about having a bare minimum of hardware required to have a smooth internet experience. It's about the proliferation of internet access, always having something nearby that will connect you to whatever you're looking for.
And that would make sense, if Chrome didn't require more resources for smooth experience than the majority of productivity software people use on their "full computers". Therein lies the problem: Google will have to pull a miracle to make ChromeOS run well on a device that would not run well, say, XP complete with Office, image editing software and even some casual games, or if we're talking ARM, then a light Linux distribution with more than a mere fullscreen browser window available.
In that light, ChromeOS is not unique or slim enough to compete in its own niche, and it's questionable why computer manufacturers would prefer to sell a ChromeOS ARM netbook instead of, say, Ubuntu's netbook distribution with Chrome or Firefox pre-installed. More value to the customers for the same money.
If Google are smart, we have not yet seen the main reason that turns ChromeOS into a desirable product. Otherwise, I guess they were simply throwing some stuff on the wall to see what sticks, as many of their other deviations.
Every time this speed comparison between Linux and Windows is done, it is done on newly installed systems. My experience is that after six months of running by a regular (read non technical) user, the windows system will be bogged down by all kinds of crap that make it unbearably slow.
After six months of use, it seems a safe bet the chrome OS computer will run at the same speed as the first day. After a year, the windows user will need to find someone that reinstalls his system or at least cleans it up a bi
After six months of use, it seems a safe bet the chrome OS computer will run at the same speed as the first day. After a year, the windows user will need to find someone that reinstalls his system or at least cleans it up a bit. The chrome OS user will not have noticed any problem whatsoever.
This is a possible advantage, but the purchase decisions will be based on a clean install, as the users who are 6 months into their use of an OS have purchased the machine 6 months ago. So I'm not sure if this benefit can drive sales alone.
Every time this speed comparison between Linux and Windows is done, it is done on newly installed systems. My experience is that after six months of running by a regular (read non technical) user, the windows system will be bogged down by all kinds of crap that make it unbearably slow.
So, "don't install crap" is now a technical skill? Wow.
My wife his hardly technical, and I haven't had to touch her laptop since I installed the OS on it. And her laptop moves along just fine. Faster than mine, in fact, but I can blame that on the oddly matched hardware I've got.
I tell you what -- setup a linux install for your "non-technical users", give them the root password, and leave them alone for six months. Assuming they don't find a new techie who will let them actually play games on their mach
And the only reason there aren't any viruses or trojans yet is because no one uses it yet. People will write them when the user base shifts. To imagine that there aren't any flaws in the system is a sad joke in naitivity
Perhaps you should consider reading up on how Chrome OS is designed. The argument you posted above sounds like you're applying the same kind of logic to Chrome OS that you would to any other flavor of Linux. Chrome OS is actually an entirely different ball game, and fundamentally does not let you install software on the machine. This and other design considerations make it radically more secure from security attacks than conventional operating systems.
Monopolies going up against each other can do some wacky things. Google is a near-monopoly in search and the same goes for MS with Windows and Office.
I watched the engadget video and, well, it sort of boots a browser that almost works. That isn't news. A grad student working on a CS project could probably do that.
Not exactly. My laptop is older and while it can run Hulu, it doesn't do it well. It severely taxes the CPU, taking roughly 70%.. and windows will occassionally use the other 30% just running and Hulu video starts staggering.
Of course the better solution to this is to have flash use hardware acceleration. Netflix with Silverlight doesn't take nearly the CPU that Hulu does.
It could also be very useful for recycling otherwise obsolete computers. If it gets computers in front of someone that couldn't otherwise afford one, great! If it gets a school in an impoverished area a computer room instead of just one box, even better! Talk about great promotions for Google...
I'm betting Microsoft will respond with something, can't have kids having their first computing experiences on a unix-based OS... they might grow up to be linux-heads!
I think Microsoft's idea was to launch their office suite for free on the web, so when you can edit Word and Excel documents in your browser, that is really all most people need. The question is which web OS will prevail.
(And for whatever två öre is worth, I think Microsoft has a huge advantage in providing decent backward compatibility with the largest library of software on this planet, which could be a deal breaker if they can pull it through. I wonder what the ReactOS guys are doing.)
Why not just use a smart phone if 90% of what you do is web browsing and email? Today's smart phones are capable of providing a good user experience for these tasks and if it's something the phone can't handle, the netbook probably can't either. I suppose the one major alternative is document editing, but who knows what phones will be capable of in the next few years.
For me, netbooks fall into the overly-large phone or underpowered notebook category. If they work for you or your needs, great, but they do
I sure wouldn't want to use a smart phone 90% of the day. It doesn't matter which cellphone you think is the best, the display and keyboard are going to be too small.
An ideal approach is an OS that's *more* focused on the cloud, rather than *entirely* focused. I use many cloud apps with Chrome's current "Web Shortcuts" feature which removes browser elements from view and presents the web app much like a native one. This approach is used in several Linux cloud distributions already. Google is mistaken in their mission to turn every consumer and business class PC into a thin client.
Concerning the altering of a web browser to facilitate web apps, Microsoft did this a long time ago with Internet Explorer. And Mozilla tried to do it. If it was bad when they did it, how can it be good when Google does it?
In my case because I actually use it. I get plenty of mileage out of that feature. Some of it could just be timing. There are a lot more web apps that I even care about now.
There is much more to Chrome than it's fast boot, most of that is because it's cloud based not inspite of it, most users don't want/need to have control of their data/applications.
Aside from the latest, greatest, shiniest geek toy... this thing isn't even in a beta state, yet somehow it is going to reshape the industry? I think not.
Come out of the basement, folks... the sun here in a real world only hurts for a moment or two.
From Chrome and Chrome, What is Chrome? [cringely.com]: "The most interesting part for me will be Microsoft's response. This strikes at the very heart of Redmond's business success and Microsoft will not take it lying down. Expect thermonuclear warfare."
I have Chrome OS running on VirtualBox - works as advertised, and when it is solid I'll probably buy a low cost device running it for travel, web browsing around the house and yard, etc.
I am hoping that it will eventually include a *great* xterm app with SSH support so it can also be used to monitor servers, and light weight admin work.
It seems if you are aiming to have a very narrow and specific design to your system, a general purpose Unix work-a-like is overkill. Wouldn't a minimal POSIX-ish system with some graphical operations be sufficient. It's great to use something familiar and actively developed like Linux. Just for the device drivers alone it is pretty valuable. But after digging into the Plan9 kernel, I realize that most of these drivers are not really that complicated if you can accept a basic level of functionality and less than optimal level of performance. (like the nvidia drivers in Plan9, it's only one short.c file, and just enough to get 9wm up and going). Even something like L4 is overkill, a lot of the cool abstraction it offers is probably not necessary if you can just wedge it into a library.
Many of us on here have hacked together little pseudo-kernels. Glorified Hello World bootloaders really. If you had a TCP/IP stack, using an existing one like KAME or uIP, or a new implementation (I don't care which) and a filesystem that is more like a simple memory mapped key-value pair database (using critbit, hash table, b+tree, whatever). it seems to me that would be enough to get something like WebKit going.
What value would a custom kernel/OS have over a specialized Linux? Well I think you could focus on implementing abstractions most suitable for a browser instead of trying to fit a filesystem or sqlite library to your design. Mostly I suspect you could optimize the boot of a very primitive system pretty easily. And you could do things where isolation of the browser in memory can be done in a way much finer grain than the Unix scheme of dividing everything into a user process or kernel mode thread.
Perhaps the browser would be more like a root user, but individual tabs would have permissions controlled by a kernel or hypervisor that would be in isolation of one another. One page may not be able to hijack the rest of your browser or access cookies or passwords unless specifically authorized. And it could be done in such a way that is still relatively fast and low overhead, but more secure than current schemes.
Imagine if plug-ins like flash and video codecs had to run through a socket or some fast IPC messaging scheme. where you could just close it to force the process on the end to shut down.
Why don't I implement it you ask? Well assuming I have the skills necessary to do a good job, and the ambition to complete such a task. I'm too old school to accept the idea that a system where the only application is a browser is useful to me personally. Maybe when kernel development becomes browser based?
Sometimes less is more, I know that is exactly why I starting using Google search was its minimalistic approach to its front page. Most people that this would be targeting aren't going to be Linux OS nerds, yet I imagine if anyone can pull off the Year of the Linux Desktop, it would be Google. I just don't think it will be the Linux Desktop most of us had envisioned.
Until it actually comes out Chrome OS is just running the hype machine. It seems to be on par with the iPhone on page hits so there will be many stories hyping it up and some calling out that not having your own data and everything is bad. I wouldn't put any real merit on what is being said about it until the market actually answers whether it's good or not.
Most of my family and friends are not techies or geeks. They only use their computer for email, web/facebook and passing pics around. These are the same people asking me if a $400 laptop Black Friday deal from Wal-Mart would work to replace their (aging) desktop and they won't listen to me when I tell them to get a used one for $50 on e-bay. I'd tell every single one of them to get a ChromeOS net appliance if it were available.
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You are essentially getting less than what you would get with a standard distro like Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, etc.
We on/. often forget on there are many people who NEED less.
It's possible you're talking about the wizards who gave us Windows NT in 1993. AFAIK all those guys, and everybody who could understand how they did what they did, left long ago. They should have - their options were fully vested and stopped gaining value over a decade ago. I've certainly seen little evidence since that they remain though the business types who think they're the smartest guys in the room seem to remain active to this day.
People at Google keep coming out with this immensely scalable stuf
What goldmine? For crying out loud, Chrome OS is just a Linux distro that can only load websites. What's the point of using Chrome OS if you could run a real Linux distro or even Windows 7 on a $300 netbook and run the same web apps as well as native apps?
Apple tried the web app thing with the iPhone, and people wanted native apps.
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It actually takes 30 seconds to boot, which isn't much better than Windows. Actually, is that even better?
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There ya go again ruining a good story by RTFA.
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ChromeShell isn't Google. ChromeOS boots to a login screen in less than 10 seconds off a USB key for me. But it doesn't support my wifi. It does support the wifi on my wife's gateway netbook though.. but doesn't support her verizon card.
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I have a three year old Dell Inspiron 6400 (with a 160GB 5400RPM 2.5" HD) that boots Windows XP SP3 from power off to desktop in 15 seconds.
What are you people doing wrong?
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And redundant services that you'll never use for your entire life but that are enabled by default. Someone I know has a malwatre infected Windows XP machine. By simply taking 30mins of my time I reduced the bootup time for 15min to 20 seconds, including the Novell login procedure. When explorer comes up the system is actually usable instead of loading taskbar apps for another 4 minutes...
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Of course if you even read the slashdot summary you would see that ChromeShell is a 'ChromeOS like' type thing, and not ChromeOS at all.
ChromeOS boots (that's full bootup and not resuming) in 7 seconds, and resumes in 3. They're working with bios firmware vendors to improve this though so boot times could become even less
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With an SSD? 30 seconds is not impressive at all.
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BeOS FTW. Loaded in 10 seconds after POST on a 300 MHz K6/2 Compaq with 48 MB RAM. Ten years ago. Yes, new OSs do more, but the point of Chrome is to be a stripped-down OS that runs nothing but a browser, unlike BeOS which had a webserver, 3D support, and lots of other good stuff going on.
Oh, and the first PC I used (an AT or XT, 8086 or 8088, I forget) went from power off to a C: prompt in 7 seconds. And QNX has done some cool stuff too.
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If 90% of what a user does is web browsing and email, that sounds like a good bet. If you push "on" and have it up and running in a few seconds, who would bother going into Windows? You'd only need to boot to Windows when doing some office work or the like, and that boot option would be a quick-click icon. If you primarily do office work with it, then you'd want a full-blown "regular" laptop anyhow instead of a netbook.
However, I imagine that Microsoft will find some way to sabotage multi-OS-boot options via screwy licensing and pricing games.
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I don't think ChromeOS will catch on as an "early boot" option any more than some of the options the BIOS manufacturers have been pitching for a few years. The benefits of ChromeOS are pretty much mitigated by sticking it on a full laptop -- you're lugging a fully-featured computer around and you don't have access to any of it, and you could get the whole thing just by waiting around another 30 seconds.
ChromeOS is about having a bare minimum of hardware required to have a smooth internet experience. It's about the proliferation of internet access, always having something nearby that will connect you to whatever you're looking for.
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ChromeOS is about having a bare minimum of hardware required to have a smooth internet experience. It's about the proliferation of internet access, always having something nearby that will connect you to whatever you're looking for.
And that would make sense, if Chrome didn't require more resources for smooth experience than the majority of productivity software people use on their "full computers". Therein lies the problem: Google will have to pull a miracle to make ChromeOS run well on a device that would not run well, say, XP complete with Office, image editing software and even some casual games, or if we're talking ARM, then a light Linux distribution with more than a mere fullscreen browser window available.
In that light, ChromeOS is not unique or slim enough to compete in its own niche, and it's questionable why computer manufacturers would prefer to sell a ChromeOS ARM netbook instead of, say, Ubuntu's netbook distribution with Chrome or Firefox pre-installed. More value to the customers for the same money.
If Google are smart, we have not yet seen the main reason that turns ChromeOS into a desirable product. Otherwise, I guess they were simply throwing some stuff on the wall to see what sticks, as many of their other deviations.
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Every time this speed comparison between Linux and Windows is done, it is done on newly installed systems. My experience is that after six months of running by a regular (read non technical) user, the windows system will be bogged down by all kinds of crap that make it unbearably slow.
After six months of use, it seems a safe bet the chrome OS computer will run at the same speed as the first day. After a year, the windows user will need to find someone that reinstalls his system or at least cleans it up a bi
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After six months of use, it seems a safe bet the chrome OS computer will run at the same speed as the first day. After a year, the windows user will need to find someone that reinstalls his system or at least cleans it up a bit. The chrome OS user will not have noticed any problem whatsoever.
This is a possible advantage, but the purchase decisions will be based on a clean install, as the users who are 6 months into their use of an OS have purchased the machine 6 months ago. So I'm not sure if this benefit can drive sales alone.
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Every time this speed comparison between Linux and Windows is done, it is done on newly installed systems. My experience is that after six months of running by a regular (read non technical) user, the windows system will be bogged down by all kinds of crap that make it unbearably slow.
So, "don't install crap" is now a technical skill? Wow.
My wife his hardly technical, and I haven't had to touch her laptop since I installed the OS on it. And her laptop moves along just fine. Faster than mine, in fact, but I can blame that on the oddly matched hardware I've got.
I tell you what -- setup a linux install for your "non-technical users", give them the root password, and leave them alone for six months. Assuming they don't find a new techie who will let them actually play games on their mach
Re:Useful (Score:4, Informative)
Perhaps you should consider reading up on how Chrome OS is designed. The argument you posted above sounds like you're applying the same kind of logic to Chrome OS that you would to any other flavor of Linux. Chrome OS is actually an entirely different ball game, and fundamentally does not let you install software on the machine. This and other design considerations make it radically more secure from security attacks than conventional operating systems.
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I watched the engadget video and, well, it sort of boots a browser that almost works. That isn't news. A grad student working on a CS project could probably do that.
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Not exactly. My laptop is older and while it can run Hulu, it doesn't do it well. It severely taxes the CPU, taking roughly 70%.. and windows will occassionally use the other 30% just running and Hulu video starts staggering.
Of course the better solution to this is to have flash use hardware acceleration. Netflix with Silverlight doesn't take nearly the CPU that Hulu does.
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It could also be very useful for recycling otherwise obsolete computers. If it gets computers in front of someone that couldn't otherwise afford one, great! If it gets a school in an impoverished area a computer room instead of just one box, even better! Talk about great promotions for Google...
I'm betting Microsoft will respond with something, can't have kids having their first computing experiences on a unix-based OS... they might grow up to be linux-heads!
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två öre
What's that?
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I'm guessing it is "two cents" in his language.
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ore : cent :: krone : dollar
He's throwing in his two cents.
Why not just use a smart phone at that point? (Score:2)
For me, netbooks fall into the overly-large phone or underpowered notebook category. If they work for you or your needs, great, but they do
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I sure wouldn't want to use a smart phone 90% of the day. It doesn't matter which cellphone you think is the best, the display and keyboard are going to be too small.
Balanced approach to cloud computing (Score:2, Interesting)
An ideal approach is an OS that's *more* focused on the cloud, rather than *entirely* focused. I use many cloud apps with Chrome's current "Web Shortcuts" feature which removes browser elements from view and presents the web app much like a native one. This approach is used in several Linux cloud distributions already. Google is mistaken in their mission to turn every consumer and business class PC into a thin client.
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In my case because I actually use it. I get plenty of mileage out of that feature. Some of it could just be timing. There are a lot more web apps that I even care about now.
just speed? (Score:2)
There is much more to Chrome than it's fast boot, most of that is because it's cloud based not inspite of it, most users don't want/need to have control of their data/applications.
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Who gives a fuck? (Score:2, Informative)
Aside from the latest, greatest, shiniest geek toy... this thing isn't even in a beta state, yet somehow it is going to reshape the industry? I think not.
Come out of the basement, folks... the sun here in a real world only hurts for a moment or two.
Trusted Computing seems significant in Chrome (Score:3, Interesting)
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Cringely: Expect thermonuclear warfare over Chrome (Score:3, Interesting)
From Chrome and Chrome, What is Chrome? [cringely.com]: "The most interesting part for me will be Microsoft's response. This strikes at the very heart of Redmond's business success and Microsoft will not take it lying down. Expect thermonuclear warfare."
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get your 50 yard line seats now...
So far, I like it (Score:2)
I have Chrome OS running on VirtualBox - works as advertised, and when it is solid I'll probably buy a low cost device running it for travel, web browsing around the house and yard, etc.
I am hoping that it will eventually include a *great* xterm app with SSH support so it can also be used to monitor servers, and light weight admin work.
Does ChromeOS need Linux? (Score:5, Interesting)
It seems if you are aiming to have a very narrow and specific design to your system, a general purpose Unix work-a-like is overkill. Wouldn't a minimal POSIX-ish system with some graphical operations be sufficient. It's great to use something familiar and actively developed like Linux. Just for the device drivers alone it is pretty valuable. But after digging into the Plan9 kernel, I realize that most of these drivers are not really that complicated if you can accept a basic level of functionality and less than optimal level of performance. (like the nvidia drivers in Plan9, it's only one short .c file, and just enough to get 9wm up and going). Even something like L4 is overkill, a lot of the cool abstraction it offers is probably not necessary if you can just wedge it into a library.
Many of us on here have hacked together little pseudo-kernels. Glorified Hello World bootloaders really. If you had a TCP/IP stack, using an existing one like KAME or uIP, or a new implementation (I don't care which) and a filesystem that is more like a simple memory mapped key-value pair database (using critbit, hash table, b+tree, whatever). it seems to me that would be enough to get something like WebKit going.
What value would a custom kernel/OS have over a specialized Linux? Well I think you could focus on implementing abstractions most suitable for a browser instead of trying to fit a filesystem or sqlite library to your design. Mostly I suspect you could optimize the boot of a very primitive system pretty easily. And you could do things where isolation of the browser in memory can be done in a way much finer grain than the Unix scheme of dividing everything into a user process or kernel mode thread.
Perhaps the browser would be more like a root user, but individual tabs would have permissions controlled by a kernel or hypervisor that would be in isolation of one another. One page may not be able to hijack the rest of your browser or access cookies or passwords unless specifically authorized. And it could be done in such a way that is still relatively fast and low overhead, but more secure than current schemes.
Imagine if plug-ins like flash and video codecs had to run through a socket or some fast IPC messaging scheme. where you could just close it to force the process on the end to shut down.
Why don't I implement it you ask? Well assuming I have the skills necessary to do a good job, and the ambition to complete such a task. I'm too old school to accept the idea that a system where the only application is a browser is useful to me personally. Maybe when kernel development becomes browser based?
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Damn, all my porn is in MS-Excel format. (How else am I going to get infinite combinations of T, A, and P via cell shuffling?)
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Simple! Just import it into Google Docs!
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Re:Don't see the point.... (Score:5, Interesting)
You are essentially getting less than what you would get with a standard distro like Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, etc.
We on /. often forget on there are many people who NEED less.
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Chrome OS boots to login in 7 seconds (Score:2)
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Christmas is just around the corner, but it's not yet here.
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Google IPO was only 5 years ago (Score:2, Interesting)
It's possible you're talking about the wizards who gave us Windows NT in 1993. AFAIK all those guys, and everybody who could understand how they did what they did, left long ago. They should have - their options were fully vested and stopped gaining value over a decade ago. I've certainly seen little evidence since that they remain though the business types who think they're the smartest guys in the room seem to remain active to this day.
People at Google keep coming out with this immensely scalable stuf
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What goldmine? For crying out loud, Chrome OS is just a Linux distro that can only load websites. What's the point of using Chrome OS if you could run a real Linux distro or even Windows 7 on a $300 netbook and run the same web apps as well as native apps?
Apple tried the web app thing with the iPhone, and people wanted native apps.