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Astrium Hopes To Test Grabbing Solar Energy From Orbit 144

Posted by timothy
from the don't-stand-underneath-when-they-fly-by dept.
goldaryn writes "Word from the BBC today is that Europe's biggest space company is seeking partners to help get a satellite-based solar power trial into orbit: 'EADS Astrium says the satellite system would collect the Sun's energy and transmit it to Earth via an infrared laser, to provide electricity. Space solar power has been talked about for more than 30 years as an attractive concept because it would be 'clean, inexhaustible, and available 24 hours a day.' However, there have always been question marks over its cost, efficiency and safety. But Astrium believes the technology is close to proving its maturity.'"
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Astrium Hopes To Test Grabbing Solar Energy From Orbit

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  • space power (Score:3, Informative)

    by wizardforce (1005805) on Thursday January 21, 2010 @03:11PM (#30849420) Journal

    It costs roughly 10,000$/kg to launch all the materials used in these orbital solar power stations. There is simply no way that it is cheaper to launch solar panels into orbit at that cost than to build a set of mirrors to focus solar energy on to solar panels or using it to crack water using one of the many thermochemical cycles that exist and using that to make fuel or run the produced Hydrogen through a fuel cell.

  • Re:uhh... (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 21, 2010 @03:23PM (#30849602)
    No no, that was using microwaves, not infrared rays!
  • by IamTheRealMike (537420) <mike@plan99.net> on Thursday January 21, 2010 @03:39PM (#30849838)

    Not that it makes a difference. For the price of the rocket you need to launch one panel, you can buy hundreds of panels. That will generate hundreds of times the power. It's an utterly stupid concept.

    That doesn't make sense. The whole point of putting them in space is that they work better there. So if you had 1 panel in space and 100 on the ground, I don't know what the real ratio would be but it'd clearly not be 1:100.

    Astrium isn't exactly a fly by night outfit. If they think they can get the numbers to where a panel in space is significantly more efficient than on the ground, it may not matter that it costs a lot to launch as the launch costs can be amortized over the lifetime of the satellite, the expected future cost of energy and so on.

  • Re:Why use lasers? (Score:4, Informative)

    by bughunter (10093) <bughunter@eQUOTEarthlink.net minus punct> on Thursday January 21, 2010 @04:10PM (#30850284) Journal

    Why use lasers?

    Conversion efficiency. Lifetime. Environmental suitability. Potential for technology insertion and incremental improvements.

    The magnetron, while efficient at converting electrical power to microwave, is being surpassed by the VECSEL solid-state IR laser in efficiency. Both are about 70-75% efficient, but magnetrons are a rather old, very mature technology whereas solid state lasers are still maturing. Magnetrons are at their limit; solid-state lasers still have room for improvement.

    And solid state devices can more easily be made to have a long service lifetime and to tolerate being shaken nearly to death on top of a rocket than magnetrons can. These are satellite applications, so reliability, service life and ruggedness are very important requirements.

    For conversion back to electrons, I'm not so sure of that trade, but I trust they factored that in. IR is quite suitable mainly because a microwave transducers have some fundamental drawbacks. A microwave receiver is a bolometer, or bolometer array, which works best when incident power is focused on a nonlinear element, so some sort of refractive "lens" element will be needed, most likely an array of refractive concentrators. In the infrared, however, photovoltaic cells can be distributed over a wide area - and again, they are a maturing technology that is getting cheaper and more efficient with time... all in all I'm not surprised they chose IR.

  • Re:Why use lasers? (Score:3, Informative)

    by bughunter (10093) <bughunter@eQUOTEarthlink.net minus punct> on Thursday January 21, 2010 @04:20PM (#30850456) Journal

    There are large windows in the atmospheric infrared absorption spectrum [wikipedia.org] suitable for transmitting IR signals and power.

    It's not transmission efficiency so much as conversion efficiency, and overall system cost. IR is about equivalent to microwave, and getting better, whereas microwave is essentially mature.

    Microwave comes to mind first because back in the 1950's and 60's when these ideas were first proposed, microwave was the best tech, but not any longer.

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