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Using Windows 7 RC? Pay Up Or Auto Shutdown Warned 430

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CWmike writes with a warning that free preview copies of Windows 7 in the wild will start nagging users to pay up in a couple of weeks until ultimately shutting down the PC altogether in a month. "Microsoft unveiled the schedule for Windows 7 Release Candidate's retirement in May 2009, when it issued the early look to the public. At the time, it said Windows 7 RC would expire June 1, 2010. Before that date, however, users are to receive warnings of the impending end. Starting on Feb. 15, Windows 7 RC will display notices every few hours that the machine will periodically shut down beginning on March 1. As of March 1, PCs running Windows 7 RC will automatically shut down every two hours. Those shutdowns will come without warning."
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Using Windows 7 RC? Pay Up Or Auto Shutdown Warned

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  • Really? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 01, 2010 @06:45PM (#30988400)
    BFD. You didn't pay for it, and it's Microsoft. What do you expect?
    • Re:Really? (Score:5, Funny)

      by pwnies (1034518) * <j@jjcm.org> on Monday February 01, 2010 @06:52PM (#30988504) Homepage Journal
      I expected chairs to be thrown at me.
    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      What surprises me more is that people are still using the RC. Why would anyone do that? I've seen 7 on my dads alienware(*) laptop. Frankly, I wasn't impressed. Feels like Vista, but a bit faster. XP is not an option since he wants to use the full memory instead of being limited to 3.5Gig. At least it doesn't feel sluggish, but on an i7 I wouldn't expect that.

      (*) My dad is a strange creature.... He buys the highest end laptop he can get/pay and then uses it for years.... The laptop the i7 replaced was

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by tlhIngan (30335)

        What surprises me more is that people are still using the RC. Why would anyone do that? I've seen 7 on my dads alienware(*) laptop. Frankly, I wasn't impressed. Feels like Vista, but a bit faster. XP is not an option since he wants to use the full memory instead of being limited to 3.5Gig. At least it doesn't feel sluggish, but on an i7 I wouldn't expect that.

        (*) My dad is a strange creature.... He buys the highest end laptop he can get/pay and then uses it for years.... The laptop the i7 replaced was a P-I

        • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

          by drsmithy (35869)

          CPUs aren't getting much faster quickly, ditto video cards [...]

          Actually, they are, it's just that typical requirements are plateauing.

          Really, I don't know who came up with the idea that PCs should be replaced annually or even every two years or so.

          No-one outside of enthusiasts does this. Businesses typically work on a 3-5 year cycle, and home users frequently even longer.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by ajlisows (768780)

        Probably not typical, but a friend of mine is still running the RC. Why? Here was the situation. His laptop was acting up last summer. Constantly shutting down. I told him I would reload it for him. It came with Vista. I backed his stuff up, wiped his partition clean, and started installing Vista from scratch. It simply wouldn't finish installing. I tried several times with the same result (and no, I'm not so stupid that I don't know how to install Windows). I thought it was probably a hard drive o

    • by recoiledsnake (879048) on Monday February 01, 2010 @07:15PM (#30988892)

      Since the RC doesn't get any updates, less vulnerable boxes in the wild is always good for all of us. Why is this being spun as a bad thing?

      • by Chang (2714)

        The RC is still getting security updates.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Malc (1751)

        I don't know why this is even a story. It's a total waste of bandwidth. This shutdown is part of the deal of using the RC. Maybe there are people out there who downloaded it off bittorrent without realising it was limited, but then that's their own stupid fault.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      I don't know, I think that if I'm told a beta is going to be valid until June, I wouldn't expect harassment 3 months before that time.

      • Re:Really? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by sopssa (1498795) * <sopssa@email.com> on Monday February 01, 2010 @07:49PM (#30989344) Journal

        And you just couldn't read a few words more to understand the whole thing and that it starts to shutdown every two hours on March? The original warning about that wasn't that it works until June, it was that on March it starts to shutdown every two hours, and finally on June it will stop booting. That's three months for you to take your files and settings and update. Stop being so freaking difficult.

        I know it's the usual thing to badmouth MS on slashdot, but everyone knew it was going to expire and you would need to update.

    • What gets me annoyed is that it won't accept my authentic license keys, presumably because they're for the wrong version of language. That means I can't activate it without having to wipe the system and download and burn the installation media.

    • Normal... (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Rebooting every few hours, then not booting at all? Many Windows users will just think this is normal.

  • Without warning? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mythosaz (572040) on Monday February 01, 2010 @06:45PM (#30988412)

    Uh, it's going to notify you... ...that's warning.

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by recoiledsnake (879048)

      True, the warning will start Feb 15h, and Microsoft doesn't release security updates for the Windows 7 RC code, so we're ALL better off to see these machines change to a different OS. The previews of Windows 7 were aimed at a tech savvy audience and hence I do not see any issue... except typical Slashdot "LOL M$ SUX WHATEVER IT DOES" bullshit.

    • by RobVB (1566105) on Monday February 01, 2010 @07:18PM (#30988928)
      There's also the giant Windows and Microsoft logos everywhere. If that doesn't alarm you...
    • by Tim C (15259)

      Not only that, but it was made perfectly clear when you received the key for it. This shouldn't be a surprise for anyone who has a legitimate copy of the RC.

    • Not to mention that it was never released as anything but temporary, or the two weeks of "That thing you're not paying for isn't the real product" camp over the summer.

    • by street struttin' (1249972) on Monday February 01, 2010 @07:35PM (#30989158)

      Uh, it's going to notify you... ...that's warning.

      Yes, but it will notify you without warning.

  • ..so? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by monoi (811392) on Monday February 01, 2010 @06:46PM (#30988418)
    Unless they're also going to disable booting an Ubuntu install DVD, I don't see how anyone could have a problem with this. Windows is a commercial product. If you don't want to pay for it, use one of the entirely credible free alternatives.
    • Re:..so? (Score:5, Funny)

      by recoiledsnake (879048) on Monday February 01, 2010 @06:57PM (#30988576)

      Hey, it's our M$ bashing article of the day, I've been waiting all day for a nice 'M$' bash post full of venom and vitriole, please don't rain on the parade! LOL M$ SUX!

    • Re:..so? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by jmorris42 (1458) * <jmorris.beau@org> on Monday February 01, 2010 @07:00PM (#30988632)

      > Windows is a commercial product.

      Exactly right. Bootleg Windows is the #1 competition to Linux. So if ya want to bring about "The Year of the Linux Desktop" helping Microsoft turn the screws on unlicensed installs is probably the most productive thing a non-coder can do. Especially outside the US.

    • Why does this commercial product work at all without payment?

    • by Kpau (621891)
      Everyone who got an RC knows this (or should). DuH? It was a great free ride while it lasted. My game machine upgrade will include a win7 OS. My work machine will continue as an Ubuntu critter... so it goes :)
  • Duh (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday February 01, 2010 @06:46PM (#30988424)

    This should not be a surprise to anyone. Why is this news?

  • I wonder how many people who have in currently installed will go out and buy the latest version rather than attempt to bypass the restrictions. It seems like these restrictions are targeted at the type of people who do know how to circumvent these things (that is, people who don't mind beta testing and keep up their computer skills), and that it'll be more of an annoyance than a polite, "Hey the trial is ending soon. Just fyi."
  • Nostalgia! (Score:5, Funny)

    by pwnies (1034518) * <j@jjcm.org> on Monday February 01, 2010 @06:50PM (#30988472) Homepage Journal

    PCs running Windows 7 RC will automatically shut down every two hours. Those shutdowns will come without warning

    The periodic shutdowns aren't actually part of the trial restrictions. They're built in to celebrate the 10th anniversary of windows ME

  • by Anonymous Coward

    That's still a pretty good stability improvement over WindowsME.

  • by Joucifer (1718678) on Monday February 01, 2010 @06:51PM (#30988492)
    "...will automatically shut down every two hours. Those shutdowns will come without warning." My office computer already does this.
  • by anomnomnomymous (1321267) on Monday February 01, 2010 @06:54PM (#30988540)
    Nice post there: Completely devoid of any bias towards Microsoft/Windows...

    Ok, let me turn off my sarcasm-mode first.

    So why the negative article about this? All the users knew beforehand that the free trial would end one day: Saying that it's "nagging" the user to pay up, is nothing more than using some fine choice of words to make it look bad on Microsoft.
    Seriously, there's lots of other stuff that you can slack MS for, and you have to do it for this?
    Also, you got to love the 'it will shutdown without a warning'... but it warns you from the 15th of February...

    Next up: Adobe nags the users after one month of using their trial software. Oh, the horror!
    • by eepok (545733)

      There's nothing anti-anything up there. There's no opinion.

      I think *you* need to *read* the summary again without bias.

      • Combining "notification" with "without warning" seems to be a logical error. It is written sensationally. It is written as though Microsoft sneaked this on people, even though we already knew that the machine would begin shutting down every two hours before the RC actually expires. The author either didn't know that or simply left it out of the summary, making it look like Microsoft is throwing this extra wrench in several months early in an effort to get people to "pay up." Even the choice of words (e.

    • The users didn't just "know," they were told. Big difference. MS made no secret about it.
    • by Draek (916851)

      Not just "one day", Microsoft explicitly described everything, from the warnings to the automatic shutdown complete with dates for each, on the website you needed to access to register for the RC. And even for the idiots who click OK before reading, they would've known that it was gonna happen based on the same process the Beta went through late last year and all the reports about it.

      There are exactly two kinds of people who will be affected by this: first-year engineering students in the southern hemispher

    • by Tim C (15259)

      All the users knew beforehand that the free trial would end one day

      The email MS sent us with the licence key for it made it perfectly clear what would happen, including dates, warnings, and 2-hourly shutdowns. No-one with a legitimate install of the RC should be surprised by this at all.

  • by jameskojiro (705701) on Monday February 01, 2010 @06:58PM (#30988590) Journal

    What service does this auto shutting down reside in and how do we disable it?

    • by geekmux (1040042)

      What service does this auto shutting down reside in and how do we disable it?

      Sorry, you're probably gonna have to look harder than that. After all, Microsoft infected their OWN product with semi-random "shutdowns". God knows they've had YEARS of experience seeing how others can kill the OS.

    • by Anne Thwacks (531696) on Monday February 01, 2010 @07:04PM (#30988708)
      What service does this auto shutting down reside in and how do we disable it?

      The service is Windows, and you disable it by installing Ubuntu.

      (You must be new here).

    • by mobby_6kl (668092)

      shutdown -a aborts any current shutdown porcess, so it's almost as good. You just need to be quick.

  • Ask Slashdot: (Score:3, Insightful)

    by countertrolling (1585477) on Monday February 01, 2010 @07:01PM (#30988658) Journal

    Do you expect people to get upset over this? What, are they expecting it to just keep on going? My copy never got out of the virtual box. It's just there to figure out how to learn WTF. Come March.. or February, or whenever, whoopee! 25gb freed up.. for the hacked copy.. just kidding. No name, home made boxes with XP are a booming business right now. 7 is still a giant kludge. It's like Microsoft wants people to switch. Seems to be working.. Lots more Macs in my neighborhood.

  • by HycoWhit (833923) on Monday February 01, 2010 @07:01PM (#30988666)
    Count me as one of the people seeing the nag screens... Installed Ultimate edition 32-bit, have a license of Professional 64-bit. So at some point I am going to have reload the OS. Just not sure it if will be Win 7 Pro-64 or back to XP.

    Biggest problem with Windows 7 has been the network performance. On a gigabyte network I can not get better than 100mbs performance, while the Linux and XP machines perform as expected. To make matters worse, the network appears to spike and disconnect itself at random times. Streaming a video from the Windows 7 machine and surfing the web will produce stutters. Talked with a buddy that is a a major account TAM--apparently the networking issue has been well known since the RC and affects nVidia and Intel chipsets. My question to him--so what chipsets does that leave unaffected?

    I really tried to like Windows 7 but the more I try to like the more I find thinking Ubuntu is the way to go...
    • by dunezone (899268)

      Streaming a video from the Windows 7 machine and surfing the web will produce stutters. Talked with a buddy that is a a major account TAM--apparently the networking issue has been well known since the RC and affects nVidia and Intel chipsets. My question to him--so what chipsets does that leave unaffected?

      So is it Nvidia, Intel, or Microsofts fault?

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by HycoWhit (833923)
        I'm going with my fault for installing Windows 7 in the first place...

        The same hardware performs as expected under XP and Linux (SuSe, rPath, and Ubuntu), so folks can draw their own conclusions.
  • So what? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by markdavis (642305) on Monday February 01, 2010 @07:05PM (#30988736)

    So what? Are there people stupid enough to think that a demo version of any software will run forever without nagging and shutting down, or going into limp mode? This is a completely stupid article totally unworthy of being posted on Slashdot.

    If you want a legal, free, [modern] OS without nagging or shutting down, install Linux, BSD, or OpenSolaris. Otherwise, pay up or shut up!

  • Win 7 RC was good (Score:4, Interesting)

    by microbee (682094) on Monday February 01, 2010 @07:07PM (#30988770)

    I had used it since last May until last December when I bought a discounted ultimate version for $30. The RC had almost everything the final version had, and it was nice for me to be able to try it out before paying for it (and finding a deal). I have no complaint for something that was free for half a year and as high quality as the official version

  • As of March 1, PCs running Windows 7 RC will automatically shut down every two hours. Those shutdowns will come without warning."

    Isn't this a feature of the upcoming Windows 7 "ME Mode", the less desirable counterpart to "XP Mode"?

    Wait, so this is a penalty now, and not a feature?

    Why don't they call it nostalgia mode, for those that dream of the so called better days of yesteryears?

    It's the new power saving version of the BSOD! Instead of a blue\black screen, it just shuts down! Microsoft goes Green!

    Thanks folks, I'll be here all week!

  • by heffrey (229704) on Monday February 01, 2010 @07:13PM (#30988860)

    What a truly lame story. The biggest flaw with the moderation system is that I can't use my mod points to moderate on the actual stories as well as the comments!

    • While the moderation system is screwed up (and the metamoderation even more so), you may have missed something when you said

      The biggest flaw with the moderation system is that I can't use my mod points to moderate on the actual stories as well as the comments!

      That is what the Firehose [slashdot.org] is (supposed to be) for. You can go to the firehose, set it to show you upcoming stories, and then vote them down if you think they aren't worthy. And if you see stories in the firehose that deserve attention but are not scoring high enough for the front page, you can vote them up at the same time.

      And then in proud slashdot tradition, all those votes will

  • Really, the free trial version of course is a way of getting a large test populatition to shake down the product, to get the product out and get acceptance in the community, to get the geeks familiar with it ahead of time so when the others in their company, friends and family get hit with the new version they will have a up and ready support community. All this microsoft gets for free. This was not a beta version but probably a shakedown version. So the treatment of the user, especiall un-scheduled shutdo

    • by Yosho (135835)

      This was not a beta version but probably a shakedown version.

      Well... duh? The "RC" in the name is for "Release Candidate". The entire point of the release is so that the geeks could check it out before the final release so that they could get impressions of it, tell their friends and family about it, and catch any final, show-stopping bugs. Microsoft never said it was a "free trial" version. Anybody who ever used the RC version for an important system is a moron. You seem to have just discovered something that Microsoft was very up-front and honest about.

      Also, t

  • ... are they trying to claim that the average windows system is normally stable for more than two hours?
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Zorque (894011)

      I'm assuming you haven't used Windows since 98, because my Vista box gets regular heavy usage and has been on for close to 2 months now. I really only have to restart it when I do major updates or on the off chance that some third-party program crashes it.

  • It just powers off. Hack that China!

  • I don't care who's software it is, if its been released for this long, its time to pony up or just quit using it.

  • After I installed windows 7 ultimate it completely wiped my drive which had windows 7 RC, and installed some bloody system files.

    I foolishly was using the drive as storage at the time. One of the worst losses I've been hit with.

    I had disconnected all other drives during the actual install of windows 7 ultimate (since windows is infamous for altering boot sectors), and I did not reconnect the other drives until many startups afterwards. Still it managed to completely wipe the drive without me even noticing u

  • by jaronc (68205) on Tuesday February 02, 2010 @12:12AM (#30991464)

    Isn't this story perhaps a little hysterical? When the RC came out they were very clear that this would happen, they even gave the dates. They were also very clear you may not be able to upgrade from the RC.

    Now it's about to happen and people are surprised? People agreed to help test an RC and in return they got almost a years worth of free use out of a fairly stable OS. Trials over, pay up.

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