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NGO Networks In Haiti Cause Problems For ISPs 108

angry tapir sends in an article from GoodGear Guide that begins: "While the communications networks that aid groups set up quickly following the earthquake in Haiti were surely critical to rescue efforts, the new networks have had some negative effects on the local ISP community. More than a month after the earthquake devastated the island nation, local ISPs are starting to grumble about being left out of business opportunities and about how some of the temporary equipment — using spectrum without proper authorization — is interfering with their own expensive networks, causing a degradation of their services."
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NGO Networks In Haiti Cause Problems For ISPs

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  • Re:Haw (Score:4, Interesting)

    by zappepcs ( 820751 ) on Tuesday February 23, 2010 @03:36AM (#31241766) Journal

    There is a larger problem to this. Those same local ISP and service providers operate on a shoestring budget for the most part, and even in the USA operators will cut back on operating costs to keep a profit. The trouble this brings is that they are not equipped to fully integrated to emergency situations. Recent hurricanes and non-natural disasters in the USA led to regulations that are simply expensive to comply with in order to be compliant with state of emergency situations. It's expensive enough to pay for 4 hour response times to outages, but pay for 24-72 hour battery backup at every remote site, and longer at key sites and the cost is nearly unrecoverable.

    When huge cash injections come for emergency aid, it DOES leave the businesses out of the loop. IMO, it's the fault of the government for not stating up front that local ISP/providers will eventually benefit from the cash and infrastructure injection as part of building future emergency response preparedness.

    Yes, there are of course arguments on both sides, but I'm just saying they do have a real and rational point.

  • Flawed system. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by migla ( 1099771 ) on Tuesday February 23, 2010 @03:49AM (#31241834)

    I didn't rtfa, so I don't know if this is analogous to donating clothes to poor countries, but in that case, the free clothes have devastated local clothes industry. There's some fundamental flaw in the system if giving people free stuff is bad for them...

  • Re:No good deed..... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by BlueTrin ( 683373 ) on Tuesday February 23, 2010 @04:41AM (#31242074) Homepage Journal
    I hear you, however this era of 'altruism' may feel like we are patronizing the Haitians. It is true that giving food and temporary shelters is great and will save some lifes, but you cannot just rebuild a country by doing this.

    But, in order to rebuild a country, you need more than just throwing food at refugees. This [newsweek.com] article is interesting as it brings Katrina experience to help Haiti. It seems the best results happen when the locals are involved. There are many reports of this in Thailand after the tsunami.

    There is nothing wrong with helping but helping without asking the opinion of the locals and keeping out of the loop will never give good results, it will leave the impression that you treat them like children and infantilize them. Now that the local ISPs have voiced their opinion, we should listen to their proposals and try to formulate a plan.
  • No it isn't... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by denzacar ( 181829 ) on Tuesday February 23, 2010 @07:04AM (#31242652) Journal

    Nothing is being "donated to the country". At least regarding "the internets".

    NGOs that are there to provide aid got their own satellite and wireless links because none of the local IPSs were operational at the moment. Nothing is being donated (to Haiti) - it is for their own operational and personal use.
    Later, since Haitian internet backbone is operational, the backhaul bandwidth was donated (to the NGOs) by two local ISPs - AccessHaiti and MultiLink.

    So in fact, Haitian companies are donating the bandwidth to NGOs who are donating the humanitarian aid and services to Haiti.

    But, now that the local small ISPs are coming back online, they (local ISPs) find that the NGOs are quite happy with their current setup and don't really need the local wireless services - but are willing to switch, they just need more time.
    They are kinda busy doing something a little more important at the moment.

    Being practically the only game in town (read: the only paying customers) - local ISPs would really like to sell them their services.
    But, on top of that, the wireless relays the NGOs have set up for themselves are drowning out the wireless signal of the local ISPs.

    So, basically...
    1 - Local ISP companies are providing the bandwidth to the relief workers for free. Which will probably change in the future.
    2 - NGOs have their own equipment for the use and distributing of that bandwidth - and they are providing the humanitarian aid for free. They are willing to pay for the bandwidth but are asking for more time to switch to the local providers as they are rather busy at the moment.
    3 - Local small ISPs would like to sell THEIR bandwidth (that they will buy from the ISPs mentioned under 1) to the NGOs - but they lack the capacity to do that as their wireless networks are being drowned out by the signal of the NGO's equipment.

    So... it is not the case of donated food drowning out the local production.
    But it is going to be, one way or the other, for a while at least. Because the local ISPs want it that way.
    Cause it will take time for the local customers to be able to match the NGO's ability to buy the services of the local ISPs.
    Who will then fix their prices to match the paying capabilities of the NGOs - NOT the local population.
    So... in the long run, the locals will have to pay more for less longer - because NGOs can pay more and thereby they set the prices.

    But in the LONGER run, when NGOs leave, locals will be left with a working ISP structure, and some money will flow into the community.
    So, not quite like donating food. Or clothes.

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