An anonymous reader writes "More than 100 people, many of them dressed in black, are expected to gather around a coffin Thursday to say goodbye to an old friend. The deceased? Internet Explorer 6. The aging Web browser, survived by its descendants Internet Explorer 7 and Internet Explorer 8, is being eulogized at a tongue-in-cheek 'funeral' hosted by Aten Design Group, a design firm in Denver, Colorado."
Not only do they probably support zombies but they are probably digging up more bodies and making new configurations (like my company). Could we please start developing for something newer than IE6? IE7 at least has tabs...
Note to NetWare users: General Support is Coming to an End
2 March 2010 - 5:11pm novell.com [novell.com]
This will come as no surprise, since they've been talking about it for awhile. On March 7, 2010, NetWare will end its phase of general support. Extended support will be available between March 8, 2010 and March 7, 2012. For three years after that, until March 7, 2015, customers may utilize Novell's self-support resources...
If I were to attend the funeral it would only be to ensure that it is truly dead! I would carry a stake, an axe and an EMP-gun in case the beast tries to rise again.
I'm inclined to show up, very drunk, and make a scene. Certainly calling the deceased "my abuser". Probably inexplicably accusing the mourners of being "hypocrites" and/or "phonies". Possibly culminating in me falling into the grave and freaking out.
This ceremony is all well and good, but of course it doesn't change the reality that approximately 30% of all web users still use IE6, either out of ignorance or because the company they work for doesn't allow any other browser...
In some countries, especially Korea and Japan, usage still hovers around 75%. IE6 has better support for the languages used there than its successors, and significantly better support tha even Firefox, Opera, Chrome and Safari offer.
Looking at the usage stats for my employer's two largest websites (which are "general use" websites and not in any way targeted at techies) I see IE6 going down from 5.5 - 6% at the start of the year to just under 5% in the last couple of weeks and from what I've heard from others they have similar numbers, at this point IE6 is completely marginalized on the web, the last places you'll find widespread IE6 usage is on certain corporate networks (and even those are slowly migrating away from it) and with thos
Boss: "Hey, why did we have a 20% drop in revenue this quarter?"
Sales Guy: "Oh, we told everyone visiting with IE to piss off."
Boss: "Right, good job!"
I want to make sure I never hire you to do any work for me. You are obviously too short-sighted to deal with reality.
After you give us yours so we can make sure we never work for you. You're obviously going to demand that we spend twice the time developing the site on two rapidly diverging technology levels, essentially requiring us to make two copies of the site while only paying for one.
Why would the traffic drop? IE6 is still quite capable of rendering any webpage in some capacity. This is like saying your Lynx traffic will drop off by adding an image to the website. Just because some elements of the site look funny in IE6 to you, doesn't mean that the end user cares; especially someone still using IE6.
This is all wishful thinking. Google ending support will not be the "final nail" in the proverbial coffin. IE 6 will continue to live in the corporate world (my own included unfortunately) for many years to come. This may be the first step, but its dancing before the music has started in my opinion.
Sadly true; most very large corporations I've worked for are still standardised on IE6 as are most government entities in the UK due to buying some awful piece of software that's tied to it.
I think the real death of IE6 will come when governments start to drop support for it on their portals, but I'm not holding my breath for my (UK) government to lead the charge on that one.
Major web development projects with IE6 have ended. In the Battle of the Internet, Mozilla Firefox and our Webkit competitors have prevailed. And now our team is engaged in programming and redesigning that site.
"I'm at home, drinking a cup of coffee, reading a news article in the morning. Not dressed up, at a fake funeral for a piece of computer software {AKA HUMOR} that isn't dead anyway. Take your sarcastic comments and dull sense of humor {ALERT, ALERT: IRONY DETECTOR AT CRITICAL THRESHOLD! DERP DERP DERP!} and shove them up your pretentious {IRONY DETECTOR HAS EXPERIENCED CORE MELTDOWN} ass."
I see that I'm actually "running" IE 6.0.whatever.
I never actually "use" it (use in quotes because who knows? the system is probably utilizing components of it for something stupid, like image display or file searching or playing the shutdown wav file), and I keep everything patched, but I suppose I'm possibly part of the problem... I am wary of what updating to 7 or 8 would do as far as installing more stuff on my otherwise working systems..
Is there any consensus as far as whether to upgrade or patch
Ordinarily, I wouldn't post this http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/03/04/ie6.funeral/index.html?hpt=T2 [cnn.com], but the comments from non-techies are eye opening. They believe it's a "ploy" from Microsoft to get you to upgrade to Windows 7. You can pry IE 6 from their cold dead hands. IE 6 unfortunately, isn't dying anytime soon.
I come to bury IE6, not to praise it. The evil that Microsoft does lives after it; The good is oft interred with their code; So let it be with IE6, The noble Stallman Hath told you IE6 was ambitious: If it were so, it was a grievous fault; And grievously hath IE6 answer'd it. Here, under leave of Ballmer and the rest, - For IE6 is an honorable browser; So are they all, all honorable browsers, - Come I to speak in IE6's funeral. It was my friend, faithful and just to me: But Stallman says he was ambitious; And Stallman is an honorable man.
There seemed to lurk in IE6's bearing some cryptic, sardonic arrogance, as if he had come to find all human beings dull though having moved among stranger and more potent entities. He was, of course, virtually an outcast, suspected of vague horrors and daemoniac alliances which seemed all the more menacing because they could not be named, understood, or even proved to exist.
I met him once when I was younger and he shewed me a mangled frame containing the incomprehensible word "YOGSOTHOTHE" and promised me
Google: Bring out yer dead. [IE8 puts IE6 on the cart] IE8: Here's one. Google: That'll be ninepence. IE6: I'm not dead. Google: What? IE8: Nothing. There's your ninepence. IE6: I'm not dead. Google: 'Ere, he says he's not dead. IE8: Yes he is. IE6: I'm not. Google: He isn't. IE8: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill. IE6: I'm getting better. IE8: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment. Google: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations. IE6: I don't want to go on the cart. IE8: Oh, don't be such a baby. Google: I can't take him. IE6: I feel fine. IE8: Oh, do me a favor. Google: I can't. IE8: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long. Google: I promised I'd be at the Torvalds'. They've lost nine today. IE8: Well, when's your next round? Google: Thursday. IE6: I think I'll go watching some YouTube videos. IE8: You're not fooling anyone, you know. [turns to Google]Isn't there anything you could do? IE6: I feel happy. I feel happy. [Google glances up and down the street furtively, then silences IE6 with his a whack of his club] IE8: Ah, thank you very much. Google: Not at all. See you on Thursday. IE8: Right.
that some people still have time to waste at work. On the other hand, they got some free publicity out of it.
and what the hell are you doing right now Mr ClosedSource? Shouldn't you be working on patching that buffer overflow exploit in your recursive malloc function that some nice researcher reported free of charge 8 months ago?
"that some people still have time to waste at work. On the other hand, they got some free publicity out of it."
That's what I was thinking, and who are they to decide IE6 died today? "Aten Design Group, a design firm in Denver, Colorado." Oh, right, well they're the authority on browsers then, the prestigious design group in Denver, and forget the 20% of internet users still using IE6 [cnn.com] "Despite its age, IE6 still held on to 19.8 percent of the market in February".
It didn't help that Microsoft didn't offer IE7 to Windows 2000 users. Sure, all W2K support ends in June, but not offering it artificially kept organizations on IE6...
Why would it have been important? If you were running a mixed W2K-XP shop in the 2006-2009 era, 2006 being the first year of availability for IE7, you kept IE6 unless you wanted to spend big bucks to support two browser versions internally. W2K was still in wide corporate use in 2006-2007--IE7 and Office 2007 were the first major apps that wouldn't run on W2K...
Personally, I think that not offering IE7 on W2K was a huge mistake... It would be the equivalent of Microsoft not offering IE8 on XP.
Oh great, now IE6 computers are zombies (Score:5, Funny)
... and nothing changed ...
My company supports zombies! (Score:3, Funny)
Posting this from a computer running a browser that now wants my braaaaaaaaaaaaaaains
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ALSO: Novell Netware support ends Sunday March 8th (Score:3, Interesting)
2 March 2010 - 5:11pm
novell.com [novell.com]
This will come as no surprise, since they've been talking about it for awhile. On March 7, 2010, NetWare will end its phase of general support. Extended support will be available between March 8, 2010 and March 7, 2012. For three years after that, until March 7, 2015, customers may utilize Novell's self-support resources...
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Re:Oh great, now IE6 computers are zombies (Score:5, Funny)
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Just remember... (Score:5, Insightful)
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That sounds like an awful lot of effort... Kill it with fire!
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Nuke it from orbit just to be sure.
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and she is really a he but she'll never admit to that....
Stay dead! (Score:4, Funny)
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Make a Scene (Score:5, Funny)
I'm inclined to show up, very drunk, and make a scene. Certainly calling the deceased "my abuser". Probably inexplicably accusing the mourners of being "hypocrites" and/or "phonies". Possibly culminating in me falling into the grave and freaking out.
-Peter
Re:Make a Scene (Score:5, Funny)
Somebody should go there and wave "God hates IE6" signs.
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It's been dead for years.. (Score:2)
What about the 30% of people still using it? (Score:2, Interesting)
This ceremony is all well and good, but of course it doesn't change the reality that approximately 30% of all web users still use IE6, either out of ignorance or because the company they work for doesn't allow any other browser...
In some countries, especially Korea and Japan, usage still hovers around 75%. IE6 has better support for the languages used there than its successors, and significantly better support tha even Firefox, Opera, Chrome and Safari offer.
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Looking at the usage stats for my employer's two largest websites (which are "general use" websites and not in any way targeted at techies) I see IE6 going down from 5.5 - 6% at the start of the year to just under 5% in the last couple of weeks and from what I've heard from others they have similar numbers, at this point IE6 is completely marginalized on the web, the last places you'll find widespread IE6 usage is on certain corporate networks (and even those are slowly migrating away from it) and with thos
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Sales Guy: "Oh, we told everyone visiting with IE to piss off."
Boss: "Right, good job!"
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I want to make sure I never hire you to do any work for me. You are obviously too short-sighted to deal with reality.
After you give us yours so we can make sure we never work for you. You're obviously going to demand that we spend twice the time developing the site on two rapidly diverging technology levels, essentially requiring us to make two copies of the site while only paying for one.
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Why would the traffic drop? IE6 is still quite capable of rendering any webpage in some capacity. This is like saying your Lynx traffic will drop off by adding an image to the website. Just because some elements of the site look funny in IE6 to you, doesn't mean that the end user cares; especially someone still using IE6.
funeral? (Score:3, Funny)
couldn't we instead pillory and behead it, tie it to a stake and alight it on a burning pyre, and then stomp on its corpse?
Sorry to Hear (Score:2)
I am so sorry for you loss and offer my deep felt sympathy
While can say I hardly knew the deceased i felt a deep sense of loss upon hearing of their demise
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(SIGHUP OVERRIDDEN)
(DROPPING SPOOLER)
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Wishful thinking (Score:5, Insightful)
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MISSION ACCOMPLISHED (Score:2)
Major web development projects with IE6 have ended. In the Battle of the Internet, Mozilla Firefox and our Webkit competitors have prevailed. And now our team is engaged in programming and redesigning that site.
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Including many fine, upstanding citizens from China, Russia and other wellsprings of volunteer programming talent.
Structurally there's no difference. (Score:3, Funny)
Official Site (Score:5, Informative)
The official site is here http://ie6funeral.com/ [ie6funeral.com]
Don't know why it wasn't included in the summary.
What a waste of time (Score:5, Insightful)
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"I'm at home, drinking a cup of coffee, reading a news article in the morning. Not dressed up, at a fake funeral for a piece of computer software {AKA HUMOR} that isn't dead anyway. Take your sarcastic comments and dull sense of humor {ALERT, ALERT: IRONY DETECTOR AT CRITICAL THRESHOLD! DERP DERP DERP!} and shove them up your pretentious {IRONY DETECTOR HAS EXPERIENCED CORE MELTDOWN} ass."
As someone who never uses any IE.. (Score:2)
I never actually "use" it (use in quotes because who knows? the system is probably utilizing components of it for something stupid, like image display or file searching or playing the shutdown wav file), and I keep everything patched, but I suppose I'm possibly part of the problem... I am wary of what updating to 7 or 8 would do as far as installing more stuff on my otherwise working systems..
Is there any consensus as far as whether to upgrade or patch
Read this on CNN (Score:4, Interesting)
Where is it buried? (Score:3, Funny)
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Hope you get there before I do.
I'm taking in a lot of liquids.
Friendsters, Microsofties, Redditors, lend me .... (Score:3, Interesting)
your ears;
I come to bury IE6, not to praise it.
The evil that Microsoft does lives after it;
The good is oft interred with their code;
So let it be with IE6, The noble Stallman
Hath told you IE6 was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault;
And grievously hath IE6 answer'd it.
Here, under leave of Ballmer and the rest, -
For IE6 is an honorable browser;
So are they all, all honorable browsers, -
Come I to speak in IE6's funeral.
It was my friend, faithful and just to me:
But Stallman says he was ambitious;
And Stallman is an honorable man.
Correction: "Hail, Hail! The Witch is Dead" (Score:2)
There, I corrected you.
"Hail, Hail! The Witch is Dead"
"And there was great rejoicing."
As Bender would say (Score:2)
REST IN HELL CRAPVILLE!
So long (Score:2)
Just tell us where it's buried (Score:2)
So we all know where to pee.
My IE6 Memories (Score:2)
I met him once when I was younger and he shewed me a mangled frame containing the incomprehensible word "YOGSOTHOTHE" and promised me
Re:It's far from dead in the corporate world (Score:5, Funny)
Google: Bring out yer dead.
[IE8 puts IE6 on the cart]
IE8: Here's one.
Google: That'll be ninepence.
IE6: I'm not dead.
Google: What?
IE8: Nothing. There's your ninepence.
IE6: I'm not dead.
Google: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
IE8: Yes he is.
IE6: I'm not.
Google: He isn't.
IE8: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
IE6: I'm getting better.
IE8: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.
Google: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
IE6: I don't want to go on the cart.
IE8: Oh, don't be such a baby.
Google: I can't take him.
IE6: I feel fine.
IE8: Oh, do me a favor.
Google: I can't.
IE8: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
Google: I promised I'd be at the Torvalds'. They've lost nine today.
IE8: Well, when's your next round?
Google: Thursday.
IE6: I think I'll go watching some YouTube videos.
IE8: You're not fooling anyone, you know. [turns to Google]Isn't there anything you could do?
IE6: I feel happy. I feel happy.
[Google glances up and down the street furtively, then silences IE6 with his a whack of his club]
IE8: Ah, thank you very much.
Google: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
IE8: Right.
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Re:It's far from dead in the corporate world (Score:5, Funny)
IE8: Who's that?
Google: Must be a king.
IE8: Why's that?
Google: Cuz he hasn't got ads all over him.
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+6 giggling at my desk
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that some people still have time to waste at work. On the other hand, they got some free publicity out of it.
and what the hell are you doing right now Mr ClosedSource? Shouldn't you be working on patching that buffer overflow exploit in your recursive malloc function that some nice researcher reported free of charge 8 months ago?
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That's what I was thinking, and who are they to decide IE6 died today? "Aten Design Group, a design firm in Denver, Colorado." Oh, right, well they're the authority on browsers then, the prestigious design group in Denver, and forget the 20% of internet users still using IE6 [cnn.com] "Despite its age, IE6 still held on to 19.8 percent of the market in February".
I hate IE6 as much as the next guy,
Re:Not dead for some... (Score:4, Insightful)
Why would it have been important? If you were running a mixed W2K-XP shop in the 2006-2009 era, 2006 being the first year of availability for IE7, you kept IE6 unless you wanted to spend big bucks to support two browser versions internally. W2K was still in wide corporate use in 2006-2007--IE7 and Office 2007 were the first major apps that wouldn't run on W2K...
Personally, I think that not offering IE7 on W2K was a huge mistake... It would be the equivalent of Microsoft not offering IE8 on XP.
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Game Over, Man! Game Over! (Score:3, Funny)
Just to make sure it's really dead.
I say we nuke the entire Microsoft campus from orbit.
It's the only way to be sure.