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Photoshop CS5's Showpiece — Content-Aware Fill 378

Posted by timothy
from the it's-like-stalin-was-never-there dept.
Barence writes "If you're looking for reasons to upgrade to Photoshop CS5 when it arrives, a new demo video might just persuade you. Narrated by Bryan O'Neil-Hughes, a product manager on the Photoshop team, the video shows the new content-aware fill tool, which has the potential to revolutionise the way you clean up photos. If you're not happy with an item in your picture, select it, delete it, and Photoshop will analyse the surrounding area and plug the gap as if it never existed."
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Photoshop CS5's Showpiece — Content-Aware Fill

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  • Damn..... (Score:5, Funny)

    by ogdenk (712300) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @01:47PM (#31600548)

    Stalin would have just loved that content-aware fill tool.....

  • by sir_eccles (1235902) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @01:51PM (#31600616)

    Fox News and the Texas board of Education.

    • Heh - is there a plug-in that inserts dinosaurs into the background of caveman photos? (nevermind the minor issue of not having photos from the prehistoric era)

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by fm6 (162816)

        I'm reminded of the episode of Oz where somebody tries to tell a White Supremacist that Jesus wasn't white. He pulls out his bible and points to an illustration...

    • Fox News and the Texas board of Education.

      I don't think it will work on text or video and besides, it's been easy to clone in dinosaurs since version 4.

      • by gknoy (899301) <gknoy@@@anasazisystems...com> on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:12PM (#31600938)

        Video is just a series of still pictures, that need to be interrelated. I'm certain that this could be applied to video, with enough processing power. If they can look at pixels that are neighboring in one frame, they can do it for pixels that are neighboring in time, too.

        • The key thing is getting it not to chatter or flicker, which it probably will- as I doubt it will generate the exact same results frame to frame. Nevertheless- expect it to make matte painting, wire removal, etc a lot easier. I expect they'll use it to generate a quick starting point for clean plates, which will then be given further refinements and then composited in normally.

          After watching the video and seeing obvious problems even at 360p, it seems unlikely it'd hold up at 2k without some love at least.

    • Ouroboros (Score:2, Offtopic)

      by eldavojohn (898314) *

      Fox News and the Texas board of Education.

      You know what's really funny? When those two collide [state.tx.us].

  • I'm convinced! (Score:3, Insightful)

    by e2d2 (115622) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @01:53PM (#31600668)

    Photoshop currently sells at a "lightweight" $700. How many photos would I have to edit to make that cost effective? It entered the land of exclusive pro tool years ago.

    • Re:I'm convinced! (Score:5, Insightful)

      by thewils (463314) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @01:59PM (#31600746) Journal

      It entered the land of exclusive pro tool years ago.

      It entered the land of bittorrent download and piracy years ago.

      There, fixed it for you.

      • by santax (1541065)
        No worries mate, the high price is something any pro will happily cough up. They don't care about you and I using it a home. That is only good cause when we go to work, we want the boss to buy a license ;) Besides, Photoshop just IS the best. And yes I know Gimp too :')
      • Re:I'm convinced! (Score:4, Insightful)

        by couchslug (175151) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:31PM (#31601262)

        "It entered the land of bittorrent download and piracy years ago."

        Terrific viral marketing. No one who downloads it would have bought it with own funds, but many will do so with company money. Adobe allowing "controlled leakage" is the best free marketing campaign since Office 97 went from workplace "to the house" and back again.

    • by Lumpy (12016)

      I can still get "education" pricing on it for $199.00 and any fool can get an education copy bought for them. Who cares about "technically legal" I got a license key and the box and it updates, that's all that matters.

    • by metamatic (202216)

      If it's like any of the other fancy healing tools, it'll make its way into the $99 PhotoShop Elements. The existing magic healing brush did.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Photoshop currently sells at a "lightweight" $700. How many photos would I have to edit to make that cost effective?

      One. That's why I have a legit copy of Photoshop.

  • I call Shenanigans. Someone has released this video a few days early.

  • If anything, go to around 4 min, and watch till the end (only a minute left). This is groundbreaking. Insane. I hate it, gonna put me out of my job.
    • This is groundbreaking. Insane. I hate it, gonna put me out of my job.

      I shant comment on what you do - after all, somebody needs naked midgets inserted into pictures of White House dinners - but looking at that video, I'm struck with the fact they they didn't zoom in at all. In the tiny little YouTube frame on a coarse monitor, you could hide flesh ripping raptors in the repair and it wouldn't be visible. In fact, if you look closely, you can see some bad edges even at this resolution.

      Now maybe this

    • by MXPS (1091249) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:11PM (#31600906)
      Color, I mean content-aware fill me impressed.
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Lumpy (12016)

      Nope not put you out of a job, just lower your wages to $8.95 an hour because monkeys can now do your job.

      Welcome to what us in Photography have had to deal with. I just saw an AD on the TV for a mall photo studio that will give you 20 shots in their studio for $9.95. and 8X10 prints start at $4.95 each. Yes I know it's done by no talent kids or minimum wage people, but the average consumer does not know that. They still think that it's all in the cost of the equipment and has nothing to do with skill an

  • Google Street View (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ISoldat53 (977164) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @01:56PM (#31600716)
    Sounds like something Google Street View could use to remove people from their views and make them more acceptable.
  • Nice Demo... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ndykman (659315) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:05PM (#31600830)

    I wish there was a paper on the core algorithms behind it (cmon Adobe, SIGGRAPH), but I could see why Adobe may be sitting on every aspect of this tool; because it sure seems to bring some real photoshop wizardry to the common user. It was really an example of "delete this thing" and it just works. Takes a common complex task and massively simplifies it. One of the most impressive marketing demos I've seen in a while.

    Sure, there are some cases in which I doubt it works, but from what I could see, it seemed to have some vision and perceptual rules built in to guide how to fill in the deleted area. And frankly, it's a feature that for professionals, makes the price tag for the upgrade worth it. For some tasks, it'd pay for itself in labor alone. What would take a expert hours to do, this could do in minutes. If I was Adobe, I'd seriously consider taking this and make a Photoshop Elements Extended Edition (or whatever) and add about 79-99 bucks to this price for this feature alone. Arguably, it'd be worth it for many.

  • Enhance (Score:5, Funny)

    by SimonTheSoundMan (1012395) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:05PM (#31600832) Homepage

    Next up is the "CSI Enhance" tool. Take a photo of 10x10 pixels, and make it a perfect 2MP image.

  • by CptPicard (680154) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:09PM (#31600882)

    I wonder what sort of a fig leaf it will use to plug the gap in the goatse photo...

  • by Op911 (593600) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:13PM (#31600952)
    Wasn't this core technology discussed on Slashdot a number of years back? If you google "Seam Carving" you'll find some nice wikipedia articles that discuss content-aware image resizing. This may be a variant on the same technology, and i actually doubt that this is an early release of an April Fool's Day joke (no matter how Star Trek this technology seems).
  • isnt the way with the software companies these days ? fill a software with innumerable features even professionals will rarely use, and ask $60-100 for 20 to 30 functions/features that people will use, because you also put there 180 or so ones that noone will use.

    that's why software is being pirated. noone wants to shell out $60 for 200 functions 20 of which they will use from time to time.

    • by Lumpy (12016)

      Yup. I had a friend that bought Photoshop CS2 for the NoiseNinja plugin... I pointed out one day that he could have bought Noiseninja as a stand alone and skipped paying the several hundred for Photoshop and he about freaked.

    • by ExileOnHoth (53325) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:34PM (#31601326)

      noone wants to shell out $60 for 200 functions 20 of which they will use from time to time.

      Personally, I'll shell out. I make a living using photoshop and I support the idea that a bunch of extremely talented software engineers ought to be able to make a living developing it.

      • by unity100 (970058)

        my point is, even a web designer, or a visual designer doesnt use majority of those functions in photoshop. and those talented software engineers would make much more money, if they sold their product smartly, by giving out only what customers need for a cheaper price, and then offering all features as addons for minimal prices.

    • by mcgrew (92797) *

      ...because you also put there 180 or so ones that noone will use.

      Peter Noone, great grandfather of Doctor McCoy: "I'm a musician, dammit, not a photographer!"

    • by adonoman (624929)
      Which is why they started selling the Elements line for $100 aimed at the home user market.
      • by unity100 (970058)

        a product for 'home user market' is sold from $100. you are gonna buy one, and 3-4 times a year you are going to rotate, crop and apply a few effects to your kids' photos.

        no wonder it is being pirated.

  • It'll be a great "mother-in-law" tool for family photos.

  • Lens Flares (Score:5, Funny)

    by pete-classic (75983) <hutnick@gmail.com> on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:27PM (#31601186) Homepage Journal

    Using Photoshop to remove lens flares? Oh! Brave new world!

    -Peter

  • by Lumpy (12016) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:28PM (#31601218) Homepage

    I see a 12 megapixel image in hand of a before and after and not a tiny less than 400 pixel overcompressed youtube video.

    I have seen this automatic stuff before and when you look carefully at it it's not very clean unless you re-sample down to 1/4 the resolution or go small for web use.. it's never clean enough to print out at 11X17 or larger.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by l0xin (1774918)
      Sure it might not turn out to be *perfect* on closer inspection, but given that it looks so convincing at a preview size still means orders of magnitude less effort required to get it to that stage.
    • by Gaerek (1088311) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @04:45PM (#31603318)
      If you've ever used photoshop, you would understand what it takes just to get to that part. Ever try removing a tree from an image in PS? Then have the sky look natural? That's almost impossible for the average user, and probably at least an hour (or more) of work from someone who knows what they are doing. Fixing the mistakes at that point is easy. This is could possibly be one of the most revolutionary tools in photoshop since the clone stamp.
  • by fm6 (162816) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:28PM (#31601222) Homepage Journal

    I once did a writing contract at Adobe. You know how when you pose for an ID photo, they put you in front of a curtain or something to hide the background? When I got my Adobe badge the security guy just posed me against a regular wall, then Photoshopped the wall out of the picture!

  • by nilbog (732352) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:35PM (#31601342) Homepage Journal

    I can't wait until a crime show gets ahold of this.

    "Delete that wall and see what is behind it. Enhance. Enhance. Enhance."

  • by chebucto (992517) * on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:42PM (#31601446) Homepage

    Includes more detail about the algo
    - Developed with researches at Princeton
    - Demo'd at SIGGRAPH in Aug. 2009
    - Old spot-healing tool tried to find one match for the hole; new tool copies multiple patches from the surrounding BG to fit into the hole, as well as finding & copying surrounding patterns

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vbHRcrbdQ&feature=related [youtube.com]

  • These are graph-cut or similar algorithms. There are several free alternatives which have been out there for years. Two spring straight to mind - the resynthesizer plugin for the GIMP and GREYCStoration image inpainting.

    • http://www.logarithmic.net/pfh/resynthesizer/removal
    • http://cimg.sourceforge.net/greycstoration/demonstration.shtml

    CS5 seems to have made this easier to use but the functionality has existed for ages.

    Cheers,
    Toby Haynes

  • Gimp Resynth (Score:3, Informative)

    by pydev (1683904) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @02:48PM (#31601554)

    That capability has been available for a while in the Gimp as part of the Resynth plugin:

    http://www.logarithmic.net/pfh/resynthesizer [logarithmic.net]

    It lets you resynthesize a texture, fill in a selection with surrounding content, and synthesize images "in the theme" of another image.

  • It fills in detail from the surroundings. I want one that fills in detail from the underlying layer. For example when you delete clothing.
  • I found a higher-resolution (cropped) copy of the panorama used in the video:

    http://www.scottkelby.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/7_deathvalley.jpg [scottkelby.com]

    (According to the description here [scottkelby.com], photomerge, dodge, burn, and sponge were used, but basically only the colours have been changed.)

    Composite I made of image from YouTube video + image from the blog: here [imagehost.org]

  • One word: wow! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by bradley13 (1118935) on Wednesday March 24, 2010 @03:52PM (#31602528) Homepage

    Just "wow". Everyone who has spent tedious hours "fixing" some piece of "almost" perfect photography just fell off of their chairs.

    I haven't bothered upgrading anything but InDesign in recent years - the old Photoshop (or even GIMP) was good enough. This is a reason to upgrade!

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