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Revenge of the Cable Customer 397

Posted by timothy
from the spindling-jim-carey dept.
crimeandpunishment writes "After years of poor service and poor reception, years of hoping the cable guy shows up sometime within that four-hour window, years of constant price increases ... it may be payback time for cable customers. Cable TV companies are trying to treat customers better. Considering the industry has long had some of the worst customer satsfaction ratings of any industry, it may take a while to overcome that reputation. But they'd better succeed. Cable customers are switching to satellite and phone companies in droves. According to industry research, cable companies lost five million video customers from 2006 to 2009."
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Revenge of the Cable Customer

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  • by selven (1556643) on Monday May 24 2010, @08:13AM (#32321830)

    It's called replacing cable, satellite and everything else with just the internet.

  • Right (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 24 2010, @08:15AM (#32321832)

    Because the phone company is known for their warm, friendly, helpful customer service. Can't speak for satellite, but my years with DSL with SBC yielded only marginal support at best.

  • Nothing new (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Pharmboy (216950) on Monday May 24 2010, @08:16AM (#32321836) Journal

    Time Warner, at least here in north central NC, has been making a concerted effort for the last several years, and actually has pretty darn good service. Their broadband is almost never down. They almost always show up when they say they will, you can get someone on the phone typically within 5 minutes, and the people on their phone support seem to actually know what they are talking about. Yes, they are still too expensive, but service hasn't really been an issue for me. We are moving our business phones and internet access to their business class service as it will save us around $30k a year, so we will see how that works out, but other than price for home service, I'm pretty happy with them.

  • by dkleinsc (563838) on Monday May 24 2010, @08:19AM (#32321852)

    Also known as turning off the TV and experiencing the truly wonderful show known as "real life". It can be boring at times, but the upsides are worth waiting for.

  • In My City (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Codename Dutchess (1782238) on Monday May 24 2010, @08:20AM (#32321854)
    I know where I live, Charter has a monopoly on cable. There isn't much you can do about it; They've got the fastest internet. They charge you 50 dollars cash on the spot to hook up a modem and provision it for you. Hard stuff. The service techs they send to your house are dumb as hell too. They couldn't figure out the crappy interface that their newfangled modem / wifi router had installed on it. I laughed quite a bit after they couldn't figure out how to enable WPA2. Although, in their defense, the admin panel was designed by someone who didn't know what they were doing. So, basically, there is a lot they can improve on.
  • by squinty_s (1738438) on Monday May 24 2010, @08:49AM (#32322096)
    Unfortunately for the sports lovers out there, you still kinda have to have some TV service. You can always pirate the games afterwards, however what's the joy of watching a game after its already ended? At that point you may as well just watch one of those couple of minute summaries they have. Also, no everyone can get more than a channel or two with even a roof antenna since the digital conversion.
  • by JerkBoB (7130) on Monday May 24 2010, @08:52AM (#32322120)

    You can get cable Internet and not pay for TV. I am, anyhow. True, I pay an extra $10/mo because it's not part of a bundle, but $50/mo vs. $90/mo or $120/mo isn't hard math. I take the money I'm saving and buy shows a-la-carte on the xbox 360 or apple tv. Paying for each show seems weird at first, but when you think about it, at least you're directly supporting the programming you want, and not the 99.9% bullshit that's on cable.

  • by NervousWreck (1399445) on Monday May 24 2010, @08:59AM (#32322162)
    I pay $15 for DSL but absolutely nothing for TV. It is a law of nature that there is never anything to watch on TV. It is also natural law that people must prove this law by observation a minimum of once a week. Having 15 channels instead of 150 cuts way down on your observation time.
  • Re:Favorite (Score:3, Insightful)

    by migla (1099771) on Monday May 24 2010, @09:16AM (#32322274)

    >Actually, what they should have is the client's signature. No signature = no visit.

    How could the customer give them a signature if the customer really wasn't at home, though?

  • by tepples (727027) <slash2006@noSPAm.pineight.com> on Monday May 24 2010, @09:36AM (#32322432) Homepage Journal

    I pay an extra $10/mo because [my cable Internet is] not part of a bundle

    Where I live, Comcast charges an extra $17/mo, which comes dangerously close to the price of lifeline cable.

    I take the money I'm saving and buy shows a-la-carte on the xbox 360 or apple tv.

    Can you get sports that way?

  • by gmurray (927668) on Monday May 24 2010, @09:37AM (#32322450)
    The problem, of course, being that their retaliation will be to cap our bandwidth. They wont sit still. So unless competition forces them to keep the bandwidth uncapped, you wont have enough bits to satisfy your video fix.
  • by Drathos (1092) on Monday May 24 2010, @10:19AM (#32323010)

    .. just ask The Hammer [washingtonpost.com] how it's done.

    Comcast's customer service is so bad they drove a 75 year old lady to taking a hammer to the local office.

  • by JerkBoB (7130) on Monday May 24 2010, @10:34AM (#32323210)

    Solving the technical problems isn't a big challenge if you ignore all the politics and other nontechnical machinations at work. Realistically, there is no way the NFL, NASCAR, MLB, etc. would allow their content to be multicast without solid protection of their revenue streams. And to even get to that point, you either need to convince them to throw together their own multicasting infrastructure (complete with closed clients), or, more likely, some single entity needs to invent a magic "sports box" and strike deals with all the sports entities.

    It's a mess. And all of that completely ignores the fact that the average consumer Internet connection is never going to be as reliable as plain old cable/satellite.

  • by tibit (1762298) on Monday May 24 2010, @11:07AM (#32323650)

    Because most businesses have specialized in making money as their sole raison-d-etre. Everything else is outside of their "core competences", and is really a cost they would rather avoid. If they can get away with it, noone at the helm cares whether it's "nice" or not. They have customers while being an ass? They will just become a fatter ass.

    There used to be time where big businesses would be good at something, and *that* was making them money. Then they started optimizing everything to make money, not on whatever the "something" was that used to be good. This happened everywhere.

    Prime example: banks. Used to make boatloads of money from taking deposits and lending out part of that. Now the govt is trying to regulate some trading that become very profitable to the banks, and the banks scream bloody murder. Greedy optimization misses opportunities, but of course bankers are not computer scientists and wouldn't know that...

    Some businesses shield you from their mediocricity: for example car companies. You really wouldn't want to be buying your car directly from Ford or GM. It'd be a horrible experience. The car dealers -- comparatively small enterprises -- are the customer's last line of defense in making car companies do a relatively good job.

    Some car companies used to be good at making cars. They slowly became banks, and make their money lending money. The car making part of the operation is often the loss leader.

    The problem is that the business people's mentality, that gets implanted right there in the business schools, is that the money making aspect is the thing that should drive everything else. You get idiot business school grads who expect that they should be paid $100k/year for doing nothing much, with zero experience. Eventually the yes-sayers who are clueless but "problem-free" end up in middle management, and their ineptness drives the bad service, and eventually the upper management blames the poor results on "environmental" factors: competition, bad economic situation, societal changes in the neighborhoods, etc.

    No one in cable company division management typically has any clue about the technical side of the business, and none of the decisions they make actually help with the quality of service. The "technical" people and their managers are disinterested, since the people higher up don't give shit. The contractors, who often provide the actual technical service, are directed by same money-, erm, results-oriented monkeys -- but of course the cable company thinks they are clever by offloading the "technicalities" that are not their "core competency". It's batshit insane.

    It's this self-nurturing disease, and solid competition is the only way to fix it. Bad cable companies must be driven out of business, and their upper management should be publicly ridiculed for what they are: overpaid idiots who have zero clue.

  • Re:Favorite (Score:3, Insightful)

    by DragonWriter (970822) on Monday May 24 2010, @12:18PM (#32324610)

    I used to work for a cable company (a major one, I might add), and I had that unfortunate conversation with lots of customers.

    What's ironic is that this usually took place in areas where the company I worked for used some local contractors. In areas where the company hired directly, I only heard praise of the technicians, and their punctuality.

    Supposedly it's supposed to be better for businesses to hire locally, but from my experience, the local contractors were lazy fucktards.

    Hiring directly in the area and hiring local contractors in the area are both "hiring locally".

    If the company's oversight of its contractors is less effective than its oversight of its employees, then it should be expected that places where it relies on contractors will be less well served than places where it relies on employees to perform similar work. I suspect that this -- differences in degree of accountability -- is more the problem than local contractors being lazier than anyone else.

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