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Leaked MS Presentation Shows App Store Plans For Windows 8 339

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from the hopping-on-the-bandwagon dept.
FrankNFurter sends word of an internal Microsoft presentation leaked online today that contains details about Windows 8. The slides mention support for 3-D displays, connectivity upgrades, rapid startup times, and an integrated application store. Quoting Neowin: "Consumers will be able to search on the web or locally on a Windows 8 machine to access applications from the store. Microsoft also details plans for application developers to help reach millions of users. One of the goals is to ensure licensing and monetization for developers is flexible with a transparent on-boarding process. It's clear that the 'Windows Store' will be a software service Microsoft provides and hosts fully in the cloud. The company will likely build the distribution model on Windows Azure to lure application developers."
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Leaked MS Presentation Shows App Store Plans For Windows 8

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  • Re:Just hilarious (Score:3, Informative)

    by abigor (540274) on Monday June 28, 2010 @04:00PM (#32721464)

    The Apple app store is limited to the i-devices. The parent to your post specifically mentioned "the entire Windows software market".

  • Re:Just hilarious (Score:3, Informative)

    by BasilBrush (643681) on Monday June 28, 2010 @04:03PM (#32721514)

    Isn't that the EXACT same thing Apple is doing with their App Store?

    Yes, except for the bit you left out of your copy'n'paste. Apple don't have a monopoly or even near monopoly of the smartphone OS market.

  • Re:Just hilarious (Score:5, Informative)

    by Admodieus (918728) <`john' `at' `misczak.net'> on Monday June 28, 2010 @04:06PM (#32721590)
    The difference here is that you can still install applications from outside the app store on Windows (and Android for that matter), where on iOS you can't. That's why everyone was worried about the next version of OS X moving to a more iOS-focused paradigm; Apple has final cut on everything.
  • Click'n'run (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 28, 2010 @04:06PM (#32721594)

    Rember Lindows/Linspire. Its click'n'run software had a pay download feature.

  • Re:Just hilarious (Score:5, Informative)

    by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) on Monday June 28, 2010 @04:07PM (#32721618)

    Isn't that the EXACT same thing Apple is doing with their App Store?

    No. Apple does not refuse to carry apps from developers that have versions for other platforms. And even if they did, it would still be different because Apple is only one player in a competitive market. Don't like Apple's methods, but a Blackberry or an Android and you can still have a huge selection of apps. Apple doing this would be like Dell or Toshiba doing it. If you can't grasp the difference between a monopolist leveraging their monopoly into another market versus a non-monopolist bundling products, well you haven't been paying attention here or you willfully refuse to understand.

    All that said, it's pure speculation that MS would make such draconian restrictions upon their application store.

  • Re:Just hilarious (Score:4, Informative)

    by spire3661 (1038968) on Monday June 28, 2010 @04:07PM (#32721630) Journal
    Same thing, entirely different circumstances. Monopoly is not illegal, ABUSE of monopoly is. Appstore = 100% of iApp market, but not anywhere near a monopoly level of the smartphone app market as a whole. Microsoft censoring competing products in its store = abuse of monopoly, Apple censoring competing products in its store= fair market practice.
  • by CannonballHead (842625) on Monday June 28, 2010 @04:36PM (#32722092)

    Windows 7 actually boots several seconds (~5 to 10, last time I checked) - with everything I typically use installed - than Ubuntu 9.x. I have not tried 10.x

    Sabayon and Windows 7 appear to boot more or less the same, although Windows 7 seems to be a bit faster still.

    I am running on a quad core 7gb ram system.

  • Re:Just hilarious (Score:3, Informative)

    by obijuanvaldez (924118) on Monday June 28, 2010 @05:08PM (#32722588)
    Congrats, you've just proven you don't know what you are talking about either. Your description of a monopoly is incorrect by omission. Everything said above is accurate, but you have neglected to mention that a firm is a monopoly only if there are no close substitutes to the good they provide. This is different than not having a "true replacement." As there are clearly a few close substitutes to the operating systems Microsoft sells provided, the operating systems market is probably best defined as an oligopoly if you want to stick to actual economic definitions.
  • Re:Just hilarious (Score:3, Informative)

    by BasilBrush (643681) on Monday June 28, 2010 @05:22PM (#32722810)

    If Dell's customers want Linux, they can get Linux. You seem to be implying a lie, namely that Microsoft somehow prevents Dell or other vendors from selling Linux on their machines. In fact this is the most trite of lies: the easily disproved one.

    If that's possible now it's ONLY because Microsoft faced legal action of monopoly law. It was true for many years that Dell and the other major PC manufacturers were prevented by Microsoft pricing penalties from shipping PCs with any OS other than Windows. That's a fact, regardless of whether you remember it or not.

  • Re:Just hilarious (Score:5, Informative)

    by Runaway1956 (1322357) on Monday June 28, 2010 @05:59PM (#32723356) Homepage Journal

    Uhhh - the monopoly business doesn't bother me so much, as the unfair trade practices. There are many that MS has engaged in, but the single worst thing they ever did, was to demand exclusive contracts with vendors.

    Totally wrong. And, it should have been punished severely. Not only Linux, but other OS's would be light years ahead of where they are today, if the vendors had been permitted to build custom and/or "standard" machines with alternative OS's all along.

    Even today, it's a bit difficult to navigate Dell's site, to find the machine that you REALLY want, without Windows. That's just wrong, wrong, wrong. All of the possible configurations, and all the possible OS's should be easy to find with a simple search. Very simple search. "No OS Thinkpad" should take me right to the window where I can customize it - I shouldn't have to make multiple searches in the enterprise/business section.

  • by Risen888 (306092) on Tuesday June 29, 2010 @09:08AM (#32729460)

    Once again, they are ripping off ideas from Apple.

    I wish people would stop saying that. Microsoft and Apple before them are jacking this idea straight from the free desktop, where we've had it for fifteen years.

Their idea of an offer you can't refuse is an offer... and you'd better not refuse.

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