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Google Nabs Patent To Monitor Your Cursor Movement 198

bool2 writes "Google has been awarded a patent for displaying search results based on how you move your mouse cursor on the screen... Google's plans are to monitor the movements of the cursor, such as when a user hovers over a certain ad or link to read a tooltip, and then provide relevant search results, and ads, based on that behaviour. It means that it does not require users to actually click a link to know that they were interested in it, opening a world of opportunity for even more focused ads."
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Google Nabs Patent To Monitor Your Cursor Movement

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  • by ciaran_o_riordan ( 662132 ) on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @01:29PM (#33047784) Homepage

    Thanks Google, for the disclosure of this invention which society will be free to benefit from in 2030.

    Some will say that the game is broken and Google is just obliged to play the game too, but in that case, they could make a promise not to use this patent aggressively. Since there's no such promise, all we can say is that they're stockpiling dangerous patents.

  • by gstoddart ( 321705 ) on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @01:31PM (#33047836) Homepage

    I wiggle the mouse and randomly highlight text while I'm reading -- it used to confuse and baffle co-workers. Mostly it's just keeping my hand busy.

    If they can infer anything meaningful from what is essentially doodling with the mouse, good luck with that. What I'm highlighting or hovering over has little to do with how they might be able to advertise to me. Heck, I think it would be funny to see the results.

    And, I somewhat agree with the observations in TFA that there might be some privacy issues here. I already block google analytics on most of my machines.

  • Re:scary company (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @01:34PM (#33047876)

    Uh, Google is already doing that. Search suggestions, tracking the typing speed in form fields (they really do this, apparently so they can detect bots, but it opens up all of those possibilities)... They also see what link you click on their search results via background http request when you click it.

  • Legally (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Dunbal ( 464142 ) * on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @01:38PM (#33047958)

    What is the difference between this and a keylogger?

    It's one thing to record commands I have sent to their computers by clicking. It's another thing entirely to track things I do on MY computer. I foresee a lot of legislation in Google's future.

  • by jgagnon ( 1663075 ) on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @01:53PM (#33048188)

    Hmm... I wonder if it is possible for a plug-in to trap mouse movements and invoke/ave the link pointed at but report back to the browser engine that something else happened. *face thinking*

  • by john83 ( 923470 ) on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @01:59PM (#33048268)
    I do recall seeing an interview in which a Google executive (I forget which one) was asked about patents. He replied that Google was only interested in defensive patents. Of course, that statement isn't exactly binding, but even the links you've given claim that Google has never sued anyone for patent infringement.
  • by dintlu ( 1171159 ) on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @02:00PM (#33048284)

    I highlight text, too.

    Some people hover over the text that they are reading, moving the mouse in parallel lines across the screen and indicating to Google the speed at which they read,
    Some people don't move the mouse at all while reading.
    Some people throw the mouse to the corner of the screen while they're reading.
    Some people hover over ads but don't click. Others avoid hovering over ads.
    Some people's behavior changes when they use a laptop versus a desktop.

    Most of the people I know consistently perform a single mousing behavior on websites, and there's a finite amount of variation between individuals.

    The idea to observe people's idiosyncratic behaviors in order to classify them into actionable categories is pretty obvious, though, and I don't see how Google's saying "This *specific* behavior, in this *specific* industry" in a patent application qualifies them to prevent other organizations from performing this sort of analysis.

  • by ciaran_o_riordan ( 662132 ) on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @02:14PM (#33048516) Homepage

    If anyone could post the link to that interview, it would be good to have.

    I'm certainly happier that this patent is going to Google than to MS or a troll, but companies change and twenty years is a long time.

  • Re:They know that (Score:3, Interesting)

    by TaoPhoenix ( 980487 ) <TaoPhoenix@yahoo.com> on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @03:05PM (#33049158) Journal

    Of course they do.

    Welcome to the art of Inverse Patents.

    You patent the "sexy" form of the Patent concept, but you implement it 1-X. "Draw a burst radius around what you moved your mouse away from to read and correlate with subsequent clicks".

  • by clone53421 ( 1310749 ) on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @03:20PM (#33049334) Journal

    Why would you need to move your mouse over to a certain part of the screen when you can just look there?

    Because something useful pops up when you do, obviously. Try the new Google Image Search [google.com] to see what I mean.

  • Re:Legally (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Dhalka226 ( 559740 ) on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @03:35PM (#33049516)

    That is done by my browser, and the information stays on my browser. My browser doesn't (up to now) send mouseover events to a server and have the server read those and serve me content based on it. The HTML/javascript reacts in pre-arranged ways when the event happens, nothing more. No data leaves my computer.

    That's only half true. As a web developer, I have never personally developed any sort of mouse tracking software but I can tell you unequivocally that I could easily register a listener for mouse move (move, not hover or click which are both also possible) events and fire an AJAX request (or similar) to myself to log it. If I did it right I could re-create your entire experience with my page in terms of where you moved, when, in what order. In fact I can guarantee you there are sites doing this to some extent right now.

    This could be blocked by something like NoScript, of course. I don't know if Google's proposed solution is similar, but suggesting that the current state of things has no data leaving your computer is not accurate. In fact your entire quote is only accurate if somebody has either gone out of their way to prevent such things from working, or somebody has chosen not to do it. I have seen links that you mouse over and get advertisements for. It's rudimentary and rather sucktastic, but it exists. The only limitation is each website has to do it or install something that does.

    However just visiting a page, with no warning that I am going to be "tracked", does not imply consent to be "tracked". I have indicated a desire to visit a page, nothing more.

    Don't worry, they'll bury it in the terms of service somewhere.

  • Re:One Word: Tablet (Score:3, Interesting)

    by clone53421 ( 1310749 ) on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @03:55PM (#33049816) Journal

    You’re missing the point. As long as you have some sort of “hover” action, this applies – in fact, since useful information is often hidden until you mouse-over something, hardware designers are constantly trying to find better ways of implementing hover on touch interfaces.

    Go check out Google’s new-and-improved image search results page [google.com] for a perfect example of this sort of thing. They’ve completely done away with the text surrounding each image – hovering over one of the results for a moment enlarges it and reveals the associated text (URL and text blurb from the page containing it).

    In other words, for example, if you perform a search and hover the mouse over all the pr0n on the first page to get a better look, page 2 is going to be dynamically re-sorted to give you more pr0n, and the advertisements will change to ads for adult websites.

  • by bonch ( 38532 ) on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @04:56PM (#33050630)

    Since Apple-haters have completely taken over Slashdot (look at the article openly insulting all iPad users), I'm curious when opinions will turn on Google. Snooping on WiFi networks and archiving their data wasn't enough, CEO Eric Schmidt telling people concerned about privacy that they have something to hide wasn't enough...will tracking your mouse cursor be the final straw? I'm genuinely curious what it will take to push Slashdotters against Google. It's not as if this is an open source company--their primary businesses, search and advertising, are as closed source and proprietary as Windows.

  • by GameboyRMH ( 1153867 ) <gameboyrmh&gmail,com> on Tuesday July 27, 2010 @10:20PM (#33053016) Journal

    They've been on the fence with me for some time. I'm looking at setting up an email server on a VPS with a Roundcube webmail interface as a Gmail replacement. I wouldn't be so creeped out at Google if they could keep my email separate from my other activities, but when I'm logged into Gmail they track where I'm going on Google SERP pages >_>

    Creepier still, I set up another Gmail account based on my real name for dealing with potentially uncool business contacts that forwards to my personal account. The level of integration that's been made between the two in the Gmail interface is as disturbing as it is brilliant.

    Google wasn't scary at all back when I got my Gmail account invitation all those years ago, but things have changed.

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