Why Wave Failed 350
Florian Wardell submitted a little discussion piece about Why Wave Failed. He blames marketing and the staged rollout. Personally I think that what killed it was that I should have transparently been able to see my gmail inside wave. Requiring a separate window guarantees that I wouldn't use it regularly. Had I been able to read my regular mail in the same UI, I might have been tempted to use it more.
Er (Score:1, Informative)
Wave Wave goodbye?
Re:Irony (Score:3, Informative)
Re:It was an email application?! (Score:5, Informative)
Re:It's all your fault (Score:5, Informative)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_wave#Other_Compatible_Servers [wikipedia.org]
Re:I Guess I Don't Exist Then ... (Score:4, Informative)
I wouldn't say Nexus One was a flop - it accomplished exactly what it was supposed to; just look at all the SnapDragon-based phones it spawned.
Re:I Guess I Don't Exist Then ... (Score:1, Informative)
Google checkout is still alive and well. It is how you pay for apps in the Android Marketplace (though admittedly, some apps allow you to enter codes that you purchase to register software if google checkout isn't available in the country the user lives in)
Nexus One is a flop? (Score:3, Informative)
The marketing maybe. The phone itself is an excellent piece of hardware, the only thing that even slightly tempts me away from my N1 right now is a Droid X and with Motorola seemingly in the anti custom-ROM camp I refuse to support them.
I still think Google gave up too soon there, if enough consumers realized that buying the phone yourself then getting a plan without the phone subsidy built in is ultimately cheaper more carriers would be forced to offer those types of plans. It saddens me that I may have to purchase my next Android phone through the carrier and locked.
Re:I Guess I Don't Exist Then ... (Score:4, Informative)
I knew about Wave, and had plenty of opportunity to use it.
I just couldn't come up with a reason.
Re:Subliminal messaging (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Frontend vs. Protocol... (Score:3, Informative)
That got really confusing to read when you know that Wave Protocol is based on XMPP.
Re:I Guess I Don't Exist Then ... (Score:3, Informative)
Just recently, I was trying to write code (Matlab code, and the resulting academic paper in LaTeX) with someone on the other end of the continent, so we gave Wave a try. Within minutes I realised that it's useless even for this, the task it was seemingly built for. The reason: It's a sandbox. If you write code, you like to be able to save it, and compile it. To do either of the two you have to, literally, select, copy and paste your code from the wave into your IDE / text editor / local file system. That of course breaks the whole "keep everything in sync in one place in the cloud" idea.
Well - I agree with your premise but your specific example isn't a good one. Collaborative document editing != collaborative code editing and compilation. For that, you'd need an IDE and appropriate plugin/add on... wave never advertised anything that would lead you to think it could help with this.
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