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Ray Ozzie To Step Down From His Role At Microsoft 229

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denobug writes "Ray Ozzie, Chief Software Architect at Microsoft, is stepping down. He is to remain with Microsoft until he retires, focusing his efforts 'in the broader area of entertainment where Microsoft has many ongoing investments,' based on a memo from Steve Ballmer. Also according to Steve's memo, the role of CSA was unique and it will not be filled."
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Ray Ozzie To Step Down From His Role At Microsoft

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  • by Jeremiah Cornelius (137) on Monday October 18, 2010 @08:00PM (#33940786) Homepage Journal

    Bailing out from this exploding gas bag, before she burns down to the bare frame.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Shikaku (1129753)

      I thought 3 digit UIDs were a myth....

      D: It is a miracle.

      • Lord knows who would have one, let alone flaunt it.
  • by wandazulu (265281) on Monday October 18, 2010 @08:07PM (#33940872)

    He's stepping down to spend more time with his baby, Lotus Notes.

  • Not filled? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Pharmboy (216950) on Monday October 18, 2010 @08:09PM (#33940894) Journal

    Also according to Steve's memo, the role of CSA was unique and it will not be filled.

    This has Balmer sounding like Francisco Franco [wikipedia.org], who created a monarchy but put in no king, only leaving himself as regent. For decades. Somehow I don't feel that Microsoft's situation isn't going to benefit any more than Spains, for the same reasons.

    • by Dhalka226 (559740)

      My mother worked for a doctor's office for decades. This doctor's office was, on and off, owned by McNeal hospital. Suffice it for this story to say "owned by an added layer of bureaucracy."

      The doctor's realized that when somebody works for you for that long, it is nice to give them occasional raises -- not only as a retention policy but a thank-you. In her latter years there, they wanted to give her another raise but couldn't. The corporate structure of McNeal said that for her position, she was at t

      • by Pharmboy (216950)

        The title was created for Bill Gates, not for Ray. Ray is the 2nd person to have the position.

  • Huh (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 18, 2010 @08:27PM (#33941060)

    Ray Ozzie, Chief Software Architect at Microsoft, is stepping down.

    When did he step up exactly? He brought in Groove, which was another attempt to recreate notes within office, then fucked up live mesh trying to make it another Groove. He had little to do with Azure, didn't talk much at company meetings, didn't inspire, didn't do anything. Don't let the door slam your ass on the way out Ray

    • Re:Huh (Score:5, Informative)

      by PCM2 (4486) on Monday October 18, 2010 @08:40PM (#33941196) Homepage

      He had little to do with Azure, didn't talk much at company meetings, didn't inspire, didn't do anything.

      You sure about that? According to Wired [wired.com], Ozzie had everything to do with Azure, and spent his first two years on the job reorganizing the company to produce a services platform for the Web. He's quite clear about his intentions and the direction he was pushing the company in his original memo [scripting.com] to Microsoft senior management, which was sent out under Bill Gates's email address. And longtime Microsoft observer Mary-Jo Foley says [zdnet.com]:

      As I discovered during the course of my Red Dog meetings, Ozzie was anything but uninvolved in Red Dog and Azure. In fact, I heard from team members time and time again, without Ozzie’s oversight and direct intervention, Red Dog and the broader Azure platform wouldn’t have come together as quickly or comprehensively as they did.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Shemmie (909181)

      .... fucked up live mesh

      What I count as fucking up Live Mesh is the neutering it received between beta and "Oh Christ, we'll rename Live Sync 'Live Mesh' because people like the name. It's not that they like the product - oh no" - as the outcry [windowsteamblog.com] when it was announced proves.

      Was it Ozzie who did decided to cripple a fantastic product, and turn it into the steaming pile Live Mesh 2011 is? I'm honestly curious - I'd love to know who had the vision to create the original MOE.

      • by Shemmie (909181)
        Sorry to answer my own post, but I got curious and did some googling. After searching around a bit I came across this blog [live.com] (opinion piece by the looks, but the quotes seem solid.)

        Ozzie is now in charge of setting the future direction for the world’s largest software maker and unlike his predecessor, he has little interest in milking past successes. He is the guy behind Microsoft’s cloud computing efforts and the products and services he’s working on have little do with Windows, Office, or

  • by WillAffleckUW (858324) on Monday October 18, 2010 @08:37PM (#33941156) Homepage Journal

    For anyone who doesn't speak corporate-speak, or the variant they use at Microsoft, this really means the following:

    Ray got fired, but at his level they don't fire you. He got fired because Microsoft is a mature business and doesn't really create anything new anymore.

    Ballmer refuses to split the company up (tax reasons) so he's been given a grace period of a year to find a replacement for himself.

    Here endeth the lesson.

    • by hairyfeet (841228)

      Uhhhh...explain please, why exactly would you WANT them to spend all their resources creating "something new"? This is the classic Netscape problem, where they threw the baby out with the bath water and ended up going under. MS Office is nice, Windows 7 is REAL nice, my friends working server says the latest WinServer is nice, all the kids at the local college can't understand how i can get ANYTHING done without a ribbon, so they obviously hit it for the new generation, and the dorms are filled with x360s e

      • the towel on any further attempts at, ahem, innovation.

        They've been flailing around and failing to imitate Apple since the creation of the Macintosh.

        Apart from "rousing the giant" long enough to kill Netscape through illegal anti-competitive moves in the nineties, Microsoft has finally realized that they suck at innovation, suck at integration and suck at being anything but exactly what their big (140k+ desktop per) clients want them to be.

        Look for Windows to stay on the desktop and stop being an embarrassm

  • by bolivershagnasty (1924072) on Monday October 18, 2010 @09:08PM (#33941376)
    Microsoft never did understand Lotus Notes. It was like a alien language. They just didn't get it. I experienced this first hand, having worked with both Lotus and Microsoft. When Gates hired Ozzie he hoped that MS would get his vision for the Internet. Even after Ozzie made huge headway with Azure, the Windows 8, 9 , 10 people still didn't get it. They just want to do fat OS's, Office and dabble in media. I though Balmer had Ozzies back, but if he tried, he just didn't get it either. In desperation, Ozzie decided to leave (I am guessing) because MS could have been the leader in the cloud with the only true operating system designed for the cloud. Now MS will just be another cloud player and the legacy OS, et al people will keep driving the company into the ground. Well, they had their chance.
    • by bkaul01 (619795) on Monday October 18, 2010 @09:14PM (#33941414)

      Microsoft never did understand Lotus Notes.

      Neither did any of the users who were forced to try to use it.

    • Microsoft never did understand Lotus Notes.

      What do you mean, are you saying they did or did not understand it?

      It was like a alien language.

      What do you mean, it was like a language, but not one from this planet, as if no one was able to communicate in it?

      They just didn't get it.

      Oh, OK. You need to say it three times for me to figure it out. Thanks.

    • by syousef (465911)

      That's my problem with the cloud. Someone else owns it...and I have to trust my data to them.

      Microsoft want to do fat OS, Office and dabble in media because that is their bread and butter and because these are capabilities that are needed on the desktop under the user's control.

  • wow. I thought it was just vms-retreaded; I mean I didn't think anybody would do that on purpose. I wonder what his next victim will be...

    • I still rate VMS as the overall best OS I've ever used, including various Unix variants and Mac OS X/OS X Server. From an administrator's perspective, VMS had the same degree of user-facing consistency that Mac OS has, along with a fine-grained protection model that I'm appalled has never been deployed since. This is what Mac OS X Server should evolve to. And there are times when I really miss VMS' file versions.

      The single biggest shortfall of VMS was that it was really hard to set up pipe-and-filter kin

      • by wandazulu (265281)

        I like the versioning filesystem, and I like the idea that you have to use sysadmin-level commands to allow a program to listen on a particular port (along with being able to hard-limit how many connections the app will handle). The built-in clustering is also pretty awesome, considering how long it's been available. Having a unified help system is also pretty slick too.

        That said, Unix presents the user with a filesystem tree that is entirely directory-based; no need to worry about the underlying disks them

  • by dmiller (581)
    Apology accepted Captain Ozzie.

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