KDE 4.6 Beta 1 – a First Look 224
dmbkiwi writes "The first beta release of KDE SC 4.6 was released yesterday. OpenSUSE had packages up almost immediately, so being curious as to what's new, I've downloaded and upgraded to the new release. These are my impressions thus far."
Arch Linux had already (Score:2, Informative)
It is nice to hear that openSUSE got now packages as Arch Linux had packages ready in [kde-unstable] repository since the files were tagged.
I believe Mandriva has in few days (if not already).
Re:4.x KDE releases failed to impress me (Score:3, Informative)
Re:That's all...? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:GNOME keeps falling further and further behind. (Score:3, Informative)
For a long time QT was closed source. Then they opensourced it, but only under the GPL license. That pretty much forced comercial distros to ship the only viable toolkit with a sane license (but insane internal architecture) - Glib/GTK. Using Gnome instead of KDE was reasonable for them I suppose. QT was relicensed to LGPL very recently, so I will take a lot of time to change the status quo - if that ever happens.
Re:is it stable? (Score:3, Informative)
When you see the icons on the Windows desktop change to generic and then slowly back to their icon that's the windows desktop manager crashing and reloading.
KDE doesn't crash on me. Yes, programs can and do crash, but to say that KDE crashes all the time indicates you have something wrong with your system.
Exactly. I was a KDE4 early adopter (Score:3, Informative)
because I was a longtime Fedora (since Fedora 1) and KDE (since KDE 1.0 Beta 3) user. When Fedora 9 (I believe) shipped with KDE4, I installed and determinedly used it for about a month and a half before it became clear that it was a time sink, unstable, poorly integrated, lacking in features and documentation and so on. It was, frankly, in my way.
Between Fedora 9 and Fedora 12 I used GNOME and logged into KDE periodically to see whether things had improved.
Throughout it all I submitted multiple bug reports and got back a whole bunch of WONTFIX, RESOLVED that didn't fix the problem at all, and instructions that if I wanted something fixed, I would have to do it myself. Each successive release would break any progress I'd made in getting the previous release to work the way that I wanted/needed it to, and major need didn't get addressed in either environment. And then GNOME announced the whole GNOME Shell fiasco to match the KDE4 fiasco and I immediately switched to Mac OS.
I still have a Linux install on my system (had been a Linux user since '93), but I only use it to do a few serious technical/maintenance tasks, which means that it rarely (once every 2-3 months) gets started.
Looking across the field at Firefox, OpenOffice, and Linux these days, it's starting to seem as though OSS is in danger of losing relevance.
Re:GNOME keeps falling further and further behind. (Score:1, Informative)
Re:GNOME keeps falling further and further behind. (Score:2, Informative)
You, sir, are ignorant.
"They" did not decide anything. Because "they" are different groups of developers working along in the same community, but doing completely different stuff. You clearly have no idea how open source works (in fact how software development works: I don't think the guys responsible for MS Office consult much with the guys responsible for the media player component of windows...) And you hide your fundamental ignorance under the usage of technical-sounding acronyms.
As for the 3 DBs...
1) you can configure each of these applications to use the system one if you so wish
2) memory overhead is tiny, so you could argue that the extra robustness could be worth it
3) your comment is akin to saying "I will not use this app, because it was coded by a vegetarian, and I think this is abhorrent". This is not even broken logic, it is no logic at all.
4) do you think flat files would be better? Do you _know_? No clearly, you just spout ignorant opinions.
Re:GNOME keeps falling further and further behind. (Score:1, Informative)
Amarok isn't part of KDE. Tried using another audio player?
Virtuoso isn't a RDBMS, it's a different type of database. You don't need to configure it, it just runs. On a modern system there is plenty of memory to allow both to work without trouble.
I don't like that Akonadi needs MySQL, but it's not an issue really.
Re:is it stable? (Score:3, Informative)
Maybe is an issue with proprietary nvidia drivers? [kde.org]
Re:Still using KDE 3.5.X... (Score:4, Informative)
Just OOC, have you tried using freenx, instead? If the goal is to run a full DE over a low-bandwidth connection, NX is a *far FAR* superior solution.