Today's WikiLeaks News 312
In today's episode of As WikiLeaks Turns we learn that WikiLeaks's main web site is back up less than 10 days after EveryDNS terminated the domain name over stability concerns. A 16-year-old Dutch boy suspected of being involved in the pro-WikiLeaks attacks on MasterCard and Visa has been arrested. But Dutch teenagers aren't the only Assange fans in the news. Many top journalists in Australia have sent a letter(PDF) to Prime Minister Julia Gillard today to express their support of WikiLeaks. The Sydney Police have written their own letter however to organizers of a pro-WikiLeaks rally saying that the police oppose a planned demonstration. Finally, special correspondent for The Times, Alexi Mostrous and freelance reporter Heather Brooke were given permission by the judge in the Julian Assange trial to post Twitter updates about the proceedings.
Bradley Manning (Score:5, Informative)
Related to this, Bradley Manning has been in solitary confinement for 5 months [salon.com]. And there doesn't seem to be an end, or even a trial, in sight.
Re:Bradley Manning (Score:5, Informative)
And meanwhile, Roman Polanski [wikipedia.org] is still free, and it took almost thirty years for the United States to get around to having an international warrant for his arrest issued despite his having actually admitted to sex crimes involving a thirteen year old girl. I guess that doesn't count very much compared to embarrassing powerful people.
And why exactly is Assange being harrassed for doing something that is far less serious than what this English woman has admitted doing in a major newspaper [thesun.co.uk]: having sex with men using condoms deliberately tampered with so she can get pregnant?
Is the government of England really concerned with the sexual integrity of Swedish womanhood? Or are they just using the legal system to harrass someone who has made them look like the bunch of wankers they are?
Re:Bradley Manning (Score:3, Informative)
Greenwald is an idiot. A military prosecutor has 120 days to bring a case to trial. If the delay is longer than that, it's at the request of the defense. Manning could have demanded a speedy trial months ago, and there's not much the government could have done about it.
More likely, he's in solitary for his own protection. If he was put in the general prison population, he probably wouldn't last a week. Most soldiers don't take very kindly to treason.
How close are the US and Sweden? (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8202745/WikiLeaks-Swedish-government-hid-anti-terror-operations-with-America-from-Parliament.html [telegraph.co.uk]
I think this sheds some interesting light on the Assange case in Sweden and its political connotations...
Re:Hasty Assembly Permit (Score:4, Informative)
It's logistical support. In fairness, the original zdnet article is not particularly well written either; but if you read it carefully, it's clear enough what's going on. Here are the most important three paragraphs from the article.
The NSW Police said in a statement that the reason the assistant commissioner opposed the march in his correspondence was due to the organisers of the event failing to submit complete paperwork in a timely manner.
"The group gave one day's notice before the march saying that they intended to march on George Street to Martin Place in peak hour, but this was not acceptable to the police," the service said in a statement.
The police offered alternatives including holding a static protest, marching an alternate route or holding the march at another time.
Get that? The protestors gave one day notice that they were going to march down crowded city streets during peak hour. That is clearly not something you can just set up on a whim. The police responded that, with insufficient notice provided, they were concerned about being able to ensure the safety. Try doing a search on map george street sydney [yahoo.com] to get an idea of where they want to march.
The Australian police is not for or against the protest politically. They don't care if these people protest, but they do care that it's done in a safe manner (both for the sake of the protestors and for the sake of the general public).
Which is a long way of saying - total non-story except that the protest organizers are not especially organized, and so instead of doing things properly decided to start whining.
Re:Bradley Manning (Score:2, Informative)
Please be responsible (Score:3, Informative)
claes.borgstrom@advbyra.se
Thomas.bodstrom@advbyra.se
(Should you chose to support the Swedish prosecutors, also aligned against Assange, their mail server is:
http://156.49.126.250/ [156.49.126.250]
The graphic for the day, from this site:
http://eriatarka.tumblr.com/ [tumblr.com]
would be:
http://zero1infinity.tumblr.com/post/2300713684/justice [tumblr.com]
Re:Bradley Manning (Score:4, Informative)
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Re:Bradley Manning (Score:4, Informative)
This claim is false. Remember the 'collateral murder' video? Proper channels were followed, and the request was illegally denied. Imagine that Manning had leveed a successful argument that these things should be released. The request could simply be denied and the entire nature of the proceedings made a state secret. Without leaks, we'd never even know the question was posed, let alone the response, who made it, and why. There is zero expectation that the government will obey its own laws in regards to their secrets, and thus your entire argument that the law offers recourse is invalid.
Re:Bradley Manning (Score:5, Informative)
Guess he should have thought of that before committing a military crime while he was an active member of the military service. He is governed by a different set of laws that aren't nearly as nice as civilian laws.
Or at least, he might have thought of that BEFORE HE STARTED FUCKING BRAGGING ABOUT IT.
If he valued his own safety more than anything, perhaps he would have. But let's look at his motivation for leaking the materials [salon.com]:
Re:youre on /., a geek or a nerd, and you dont car (Score:5, Informative)
I'm all for transparency in government and holding people in power responsible, but there's an entire world of governments out there that should have their actions (or lack thereof, depending on the issue) scrutinized by the public, not just America. Where's the WikiLeaks coverage of China's human rights issues? How about the Cambodian government's failure to address the problem of child sex workers?
It's WikiLEAKS. If it hasn't been leaked to Wikileaks, how can Wikileaks publish it? Wikileaks is not an espionage organization and it's not about on-the-move journalism. If you have some information on these topics, which you seem to be so concerned about, why don't you put your own ass on the line and send it to Wikileaks?
Re:Bradley Manning (Score:5, Informative)
Proper channels were not followed. Reuters was trying to get the video from the military, and Assange released it. Reminds me of how W went into Iraq before Hans Blix could finish his investigation and eliminate WMD as an excuse.
Don't change the subject.
The proper order is:
1) Reuters tried, repeatedly to get the video from the military and was denied, repeatedly
2) Manning leaked it
3) Wikileaks (Assange) published it
You're asserting that there was not adequate effort during step '1' above, but this simply not true. Reuters conducted their own investigation into the deaths of their employees, including a properly filed and processed FOIA request, in 2007. It was 'blocked by the Pentagon' that same year. The leak didn't occur until 2009.
The government lied and would never have revealed the truth.
This is but a single example, as well. I don't wish to derail this topic, but what of the Pat Tillman/Jessica Lynch situations? Again, I say there is zero expectation that proper channels would be effective. Leaks are not necessarily the only answer, but they are acceptable in light of the alternatives.