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TSA Investigates... People Who Complain About TSA 379

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Hugh Pickens writes "CNN has obtained a list of roughly 70 'behavioral indicators' that TSA behavior detection officers use to identify potentially 'high risk' passengers at the nation's airports, and report that arrogant complaining about airport security is one indicator TSA officers consider when looking for possible criminals and terrorists. When combined with other behavioral indicators, it could result in a traveler facing additional scrutiny. 'Expressing your contempt about airport procedures — that's a First Amendment-protected right,' says Michael German, a former FBI agent who now works as legal counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. 'It's circular reasoning where, you know, I'm going to ask someone to surrender their rights; if they refuse, that's evidence that I need to take their rights away from them. And it's simply inappropriate.' Interestingly enough, some experts say terrorists are much more likely to avoid confrontations with authorities, saying an al-Qaeda training manual instructs members to blend in."
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TSA Investigates... People Who Complain About TSA

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  • by ticketswapz (1974628) on Friday April 15, 2011 @06:00PM (#35834074) Homepage
    Please Remove Your Shoes In this documentary, it shows the agreement between the FAA and airlines industries to put security at a low priority while getting passengers on planes as quickly as possible was the highest priority. A "red team" agent who audits security put a bomb in a suitcase, threw clothes on it and put a water bottle on top of the clothes. The screener detected the bag, opened it up, confiscated the water bottle and allowed the bag to go through. TSA agents complained because he "thought outside the box" and invalidated the test because it was "unfair" to their procedures on how to audit security. This documentary is from ex/current TSA, FAA, and air marshal agents. Did you know the TSA was more interested in having an air marshal dress code than actually "blending in" on the plane? The guy in a suit and tie sitting on the plane to Hawaii was a dead giveaway when everyone else was dressed appropriately.
  • by Dutchmaan (442553) on Friday April 15, 2011 @06:03PM (#35834114) Homepage

    TSA is an agency of the United States Government. If you can't make the connection I will draw you a picture. :o)

    Glenn?!

  • by jasonwc (939262) on Friday April 15, 2011 @06:27PM (#35834364)

    According to CNN, the TSA is actually more ineffective than I initially thought:

    False Positives-

    Members of Congress also expressed concern about the number of "false positives" -- people flagged for additional screening that resulted in nothing being found. For every person correctly identified as a "high risk" traveler by (the behavior detection officers), 86 were misidentified, Willis said. At random screening, for every person correctly identified, 794 were misidentified.

    Effectiveness at detecting terrorists-

    Experts agree that the fact that there is an extremely small number of terrorists makes it hard to evaluate the effectiveness of behavioral observation programs. The Accountability Office said it looked at 23 occasions in which 16 individuals -- people later charged with terrorism-related activities -- passed through high-threat airports. None is known to have been identified. But it is not known if the behavior detection officers were working at the time, the agency said.

    So, in the best case scenario, for every person ultimately charged with a crime (not necessarily convicted) 86 are misidentified. And that is using "trained" behavioral analysts. Most TSA searches are random, which results in one charge for every 794 false positives. Note also that nearly 40% of the charges are immigration related. Most of the rest are probably drug related.

    The TSA can't point to a single incident where its random searches or behavioral analysis actually has prevented a terrorist attack. Despite their utter failure, the TSA plans to spend another $1.2 billion over the course of five years on behavior analysis techniques.

    Source: http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/04/15/tsa.screeners.complain/index.html?hpt=C1 [cnn.com]

  • by judoguy (534886) on Friday April 15, 2011 @06:35PM (#35834492) Homepage

    This is the government attacking it's citizens over their opinions and beliefs, nearly making it an illegal act. That's fascism.

    There's nothing specifically fascist about this. The same could be said for Socialist or Communist. Rather, it's generic totalitarianism.

    I wish people would stop using "Fascist" for "Evil". It's only one of several evil forms of government.

  • by Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) on Friday April 15, 2011 @06:57PM (#35834776)

    the TSA's purpose is not stopping terrorists...

    Q: How many terrorists has the TSA caught?
    A: ZERO

    Q: How many terrorist attacks has the TSA stopped?
    A: ZERO

    For proof, the answer is obvious - a terrorist doesn't just decide that airplanes are too well protected so they are going to give up on the idea of causing mayhem, they will just look for easier targets like shopping malls, movie theaters, concerts, etc. Since we have had zero attacks on alternate targets, its clear the TSA isn't protecting airplanes from anyone.

    The worst we've seen have been run-of-the-mill lone gunmen type like the Ft Hood shooter and the DC sniper. Everybody else, like the Times Square bomber have been so incompetent they couldn't even build a working bomb and most of those convicted have been guilty of nothing more than talking trash within the earshot of a snitch looking to get criminal charges dropped in exchange for narcing out someone, anyone.

  • by Culture20 (968837) on Friday April 15, 2011 @07:41PM (#35835306)

    We are now okay with six year old girls getting patted down? Where does that fot in profiling?

    I believe people who pat down six year olds are profiled as pedophiles. Speaking of that incident, did you hear that poor girl was crying and felt bad for "what she did wrong" after the pat down?

  • by shutdown -p now (807394) on Friday April 15, 2011 @09:40PM (#35836180) Journal

    Fascism is defined as the simultaneous presence of authoritarianism, racism and corporatism.

    Racism is by no means a necessary ingredient. Mussolini was not racist - in fact, he explicitly distanced himself from racism - until shortly after Hitler became dominant in their relationship.

    And "corporatism" is a word that has absolutely nothing with what we call "corporations" today. At the time, the meaning that fascists put into it most closely corresponded to statist syndicalism.

    Consequently, "The form of post-9/11 authoritarianism embodied by the TSA" is not fascism. It's just authoritarian capitalism, business as usual.

  • Re:Like Chechneya... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Valen0 (325388) <valen@escLAPLACEom.us minus math_god> on Saturday April 16, 2011 @12:03AM (#35836830)

    The Stanford Prison Experiment [wikipedia.org] would probably be more relevant to the TSA situation than Milgram's experiment. However, both are great examples of the failings of humanity in a scientific context.

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