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Google Deleting Private Profiles 312

Posted by samzenpus
from the out-of-the-shadows dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Google announced that it will no longer support private Google Profiles after July 31. The move comes as Google is rolling out its latest social experiment, Google+. Those who have already been admitted to Google+ will see their Google+ profiles replace their Google Profiles. At the moment the only information Google requires users to reveal is their name and gender."
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Google Deleting Private Profiles

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  • Google+ (Score:2, Interesting)

    by cgeys (2240696)
    Google+ is even worse than Facebook on this regard. When you join Google+, your profile is already public to the whole internet and search engines. And because it's Google, they have already indexed it by then. There is no way to set it private before it's already public. Now they also want that people really make everything public in their search engine. Of course it makes business sense for Google, but is not good for users that want privacy. Google even uses good marketing language to soften the user. Su
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      If your Google profile was ALREADY public, that's true. If your Google profile was private (as you would expect from those who care about privacy issues) your are prompted and asked if you want it to become public in order to join Google+. If by the end of this month you do not make it public it will just be deleted, not automatically disclosed. The only mandatory information in the public profile is name and age.

    • Re:Google+ (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 07, 2011 @05:02AM (#36680636)

      Well just don't use it.

      I don't use facebook, nor linkedin, nor google, I will not use google+.

      I feel very good, have friends, work, hobbies and interest, and don't waste time on social networks trying to find new friends while leaving behind the old real ones.

      Social networks are just a fraud.

      • And call it a polite proper profile.

      • Re:Google+ (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Kjella (173770) on Thursday July 07, 2011 @08:18AM (#36681442) Homepage

        I feel very good, have friends, work, hobbies and interest, and don't waste time on social networks trying to find new friends while leaving behind the old real ones.

        Maybe your friends are just as odd as you then, nothing really wrong with that but the reason most of us feel the social pressure is because almost all my "old real" friends now are on Facebook. That's where they chatter and share pictures and make events and whatnot, it's not that they're purposely shutting you out but you're the special case. You're the one "being difficult", why can't you just get a profile just like everybody else? Sometimes they plain old forget that they have to tell me via a different means than everybody else. So I caved, my profile is on Facebook. And if everyone moved to Google+, I'd probably have to follow. If that hasn't happened to you, well then you're in the same group as my parents, they're not on Facebook, have no reason to join Facebook and good for them. It doesn't help everyone else who feel they have to either sign up or they'll drift apart from the friends they already have.

      • Social networks are just a fraud.

        No. Rather it's you who are confused as to the purpose of social networks.

        I feel very good, have friends, work, hobbies and interest, and don't waste time on social networks trying to find new friends while leaving behind the old real ones.

        Social networks aren't about trying to find new friends, they're about maintaining contacts with the ones you have. Yes, you can use them to find new ones (and I've met some great ones on Live Journal and Flickr), but that's not

    • by poetmatt (793785)

      google is worse than facebook? have you ever seen what facebook does with your data even when you delete your profile?

      nice though, we love the whole "GOOGLE IS EVIL" line. keep trottin out the lies all you want.

      • google is worse than facebook? have you ever seen what facebook does with your data even when you delete your profile?

        nice though, we love the whole "GOOGLE IS EVIL" line. keep trottin out the lies all you want.

        Google worse than facebook? Doubtful. Either being better than the other? Even more improbable. Fact is, if you're posting personal information to a public or semi-public forum like facbook or Google+, it can be used however the company decides - if you don't like it, don't use it. Or follow the old adage: "if you wouldn't put it on a billboard, don't put it on a webpage".

  • Consciously opt out? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by improfane (855034) on Thursday July 07, 2011 @04:24AM (#36680472) Journal

    I never had a Google Profile and opted out of Buzz as soon as I could.

    How do I opt out of Google+?

    What even was Google Profile?

    • by cychoi (1174487) on Thursday July 07, 2011 @04:37AM (#36680530) Journal

      How do I opt out of Google+?

      https://plus.google.com/u/0/downgrade/ [google.com]

      • by mwvdlee (775178)

        Can you opt out of Google+ without being invited to Google+?

      • Oops... you need a Google profile to use this feature.

        Google Profiles is not available for your organization.

        Noooooooo! *head asplodes*

  • Paranoia much? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 07, 2011 @05:04AM (#36680650)

    Unlike some of the comments here state, Google+ does *not* make all of your stuff public the second you enter it. For each field that you fill in there is a box that states (initially) "Everyone on the web", once you've filled in the field you get the chance to chance every bit of profile information and decide exactly who it goes to. With your real name for example you can choose to share it with everyone, only people in your circles, people in extended circles (friends of friends), with a specific circle i.e. family only or work colleagues only or you can choose to keep it completely private, or you can just not fill it in. As stated in TFA there are only 2 pieces of info you are *required* to give. If you're that paranoid you can make your nickname public or just to IRC friends for example so you know they'll get a piece of info that they can identify you by but not the rest of it.

    It's really a great system in my opinion, I love the flexibility and fine-grained settings, miles better than Facebook.

    Also for the record this: "When you join Google+, your profile is already public to the whole internet and search engines. And because it's Google, they have already indexed it by then. There is no way to set it private before it's already public." is complete crap as the settings I mentioned above are applied before you even hit the "Save changes" button on the profile page.

    At least take the time to learn about the thing you're publicly slating, though this is slashdot so I guess you can't expect any actual facts here anymore.

    • Re:Paranoia much? (Score:5, Informative)

      by ImaLamer (260199) <john.lamarNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Thursday July 07, 2011 @06:03AM (#36680914) Homepage Journal

      It's as bad as people saying they don't want to use Facebook because, gasp, "they" will learn about you. I worked as a marketing database analyst - they have known about you for years. For pennies I could buy demographic data (per household) for my metro area telling me if someone was likely to own pets, what type of money they made, what their job was, their ethnic background and other mundane details. If people are really concerned about their privacy, as much as they claim here, I wonder how they even get to Slashdot. How did they sign up for Internet service - if stolen, how did they get their PCs? Did they ever do anything that could have been sent up to companies like Experian? Because if so - "they" already know.

      And really - "they" don't care. Then just want you to buy more tanning visits.

      • Re:Paranoia much? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday July 07, 2011 @06:57AM (#36681104)

        There's a difference between the USA and Europe. In Europe, companies are not allowed to sell your data on to other people, and it must be used for the purpose it was provided. Europeans feel extremely and personally threatened by the US attitude of "All your information is open, and everyone knows about you".

        The "Default deny" mindset is deeply ingrained in the European mindset, due to the violent history of the continent. It's Darwinian: In times of war, loose lips will get you killed.

  • by triclipse (702209) <slashdotNO@SPAMcombslaw.cc> on Thursday July 07, 2011 @05:46AM (#36680826) Homepage
    I have been noticing the new Google+ tracking cookie popping up across the web as well. (I blocked it with Ghostery.) Not sure what it does, perhaps someone could explain?
    • i think it might have to do something with those ugly little '+1' buttons sprouting up all over the place. interestingly, ie9's tracking protection feature automatically blocks +1 buttons and fb like buttons too. i would like to see this feature built-in in a future firefox so that i can actually use it.

  • This isn't a social site. It sounds more like a "here's my web card" or something sort of site. Why would you even use it if you wanted that info private?

  • I don't think giving your real name on the internet is a good idea, at all. Because of the special way Internet work, some criminal can collect a lot of information about you, and use that information against you. Where you live, what are you friends, what is the name of your childrens, his age,... maybe you don't provide that information in one place, but using your name and other bits, people can get all the information. Is no safe. If you have a antivirus and a firewall to product your computer, why

    • Re:Safety first. (Score:5, Interesting)

      by YttriumOxide (837412) <yttriumox AT gmail DOT com> on Thursday July 07, 2011 @08:08AM (#36681392) Homepage Journal

      I don't think giving your real name on the internet is a good idea, at all. Because of the special way Internet work, some criminal can collect a lot of information about you, and use that information against you. Where you live, what are you friends, what is the name of your childrens, his age,...

      Hi, my name is Benjamin de Waal. My alias here is "yttriumoxide", but elsewhere I usually go by "YttriumOx" or similar.
      I currently live in Hannover, Germany. Specifically, in the suburb called "Heideviertel". However I was born in Dunedin, New Zealand and have travelled rather extensively, including living in 5 countries so far and visiting somewhere in the region of 40 (I have a list somewhere, but not with me right now).
      I have a lot of friends all over the world, on account of having lived in many different places.
      My wife's name is Steffi (Stefanie) and my 3 month old daughter is Sam (Samantha).

      Honestly, I don't feel in the slightest bit insecure about "criminals" getting this information or "using it against me" (and no-one has ever effectively explained to me how this information could be used against me anyway (or especially "why" it would be) other than what I consider to be paranoid ramblings). You can search online for the above information and probably find out a lot more about me, including seeing pictures, learning about my interests (including illegal activities), finding out what I do for a job and what I've done in the past, etc. None of this bothers me. If I didn't expect it to be public, I wouldn't have put it online to begin with.

    • I don't think giving your real name on the internet is a good idea, at all.

      That depends on how common your name is. If your name's John Smith, there's really not that much to fear.

      My name isn't particularly common, but it's common enough for its Wikipedia page to list several sportsmen (one of them moderately famous), a politician, a musician and an actor. Criminals may be able to collect a lot of information about people with my name, but how will they be able to tie that information to me?

  • by gsslay (807818) on Thursday July 07, 2011 @07:02AM (#36681118)

    Can someone elaborate please? Might help me decide if I care about this or not.

  • "Social Experiment", I don't think that term means what you think it means.

    "Social Networking Experiment", would be a very accurate term for Google+, but "Social Experiment" makes it sound like they are just trolling.

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