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Windows XP Market Share Finally Falls Below 50%

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  • Re:just sayin' (Score:5, Insightful)

    by amicusNYCL (1538833) on Monday August 01, 2011 @08:10PM (#36954402)

    That doesn't really seem like a logical upgrade path for an XP user. It makes a lot more sense for an XP user to move to Win7.

  • by Joe_Dragon (2206452) on Monday August 01, 2011 @08:13PM (#36954428)

    Windows 7 is the new XP

  • So what? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by walterbyrd (182728) on Monday August 01, 2011 @08:27PM (#36954544)

    I never get any support from MS anyway. I used win2k for years after MS dropped support.

  • Re:So what? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by yuhong (1378501) <yuhongbao_386@hotm[ ].com ['ail' in gap]> on Monday August 01, 2011 @08:32PM (#36954600) Homepage

    Support include security updates, which are important.

  • Re:No change here (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Fluffeh (1273756) on Monday August 01, 2011 @08:51PM (#36954734)

    Honestly if you don't want or need the new features and have adequately secured your install ... Its fine to run older software as long as you aren't being limited by it or are OK with those limitations.

    That's exactly what I think. My parents (in their sixties) use Windows XP that I installed, keep as up to date as it can be in terms of patches and the like, set them up with a lovely user account that limits what can be done. For the word processing that mum does, and the occasional bit of surfing that they do, there is totally no need for them to upgrade - and trying to teach them how to make things work ("How do I shut it down now? The button used to be there and look like this...") really isn't worth the neglidgable benefit to them.

    It is exactly like the old phones that they have - okay, color screens and the like, but no smartphone, no web surfing. They use it for making calls and the (very) occasional text message. Why on earth would they want to "upgrade" to a new shiny smartphone that they have to learn all over again for the simple features and would never use the additional stuff?

  • by iprefermuffins (1460233) on Monday August 01, 2011 @09:06PM (#36954810)
    $400? It looks like a 3-pack of upgrade licenses is $140 at Amazon [amazon.com]. Or is that not an option for some reason?
  • Half the people I know with macs have installed Windows 7 on them. About half of those people have stopped using OSX all together, and intend on never buying Apple products again. Aren't anecdotes fun.

  • Re:just sayin' (Score:4, Insightful)

    by petman (619526) on Monday August 01, 2011 @09:26PM (#36954918)
    For a new computer, Win7 makes sense. However, I don't see much reason to upgrade an existing computer that is running Windows XP perfectly well. The only reason I can think of is if one's running 32-bit XP on a 64-bit computer and want to increase the RAM.
  • Why upgrade? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Opportunist (166417) on Monday August 01, 2011 @09:39PM (#36955022)

    Yes, yes, security concerns and all... but since when does Joe Randomuser care?

    WinXP is the first Windows OS that has everything the user wants, even when the next system (actually, the two next systems) is out. When 98 came out, it was a definite upgrade to 95, not to mention that quite a few games soon required 98SE. 2k was a big leap ahead from 98 and NT, combining the versatility of the 9x line with the stability of the NT line, adding out of the box USB support to both. XP again brought new bells and whistles and WiFi support, more stability and more user friendliness.

    No, I didn't forget ME. I decided to ignore regressions in development.

    But Vista/7? What's the big benefit compared to XP?

    DirectX10? So what? Few games really require it, you can do without. Aero? Please, let's talk about something useful, shall we? Now, I am probably not an expert on Windows, but that's pretty much all where I can see Vista/7 sing "everything you do I can do better".

    There is simply no reason for people to jump onto Vista/7. I do assume that the "drop" in XP is simply due to people getting new computers with a new system, which is pretty much by default not XP but probably Win7 if they decide for a Windows OS.

    tl;dr version: Nothing to see here, move along.

  • Re:So what? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by acoustix (123925) on Monday August 01, 2011 @10:07PM (#36955212) Homepage

    Really, I'm finding that you westerners are really paranoid about security holes and what-not. Here in the third world we have multitudes of computers running unpatched (often pirated) versions of windows, yet somehow our civilisation is still progressing, there's no imminent danger of us having an information technology meltdown just yet.

    What do you think drives the botnets around the world?

  • I just don't understand why guys that are supposed to be good at math just can't seem to grasp that yes Linux only has 1% [binplay.com] and this is even giving Linux the benefit of the doubt by using heavily nerdish sites like /. in the counting!

    As a PC retailer who has tried Ubuntu/Mint, Mepis, and PCLOS on the stacks of off lease office PCs that go through the shop I'll be happy to tell you why Linux is stuck at 1%...your driver model sucks! I'd love to be able to offer Linux on my PCs, as most of what my customers do can easily be done on any Web accessing OS, but until you fix the driver model so that the 6 month upgrades don't make the drivers shit themselves? Well I just can't carry your product.

    I have 8+ year old XP boxes in the field where the only thing I've had to do was the occasional hardware upgrade but out of all the office boxes I tried not a single one survived the 6 month deathmarch unscathed with all having at least 1 driver shit itself, usually more than 1, and it didn't matter if I used FOSS or non FOSS drivers it was the same. But what can you expect when the head of Linux, old Linus Torvalds himself says Plans? We don't need no steenkin plans, it'll go like a virus LOL! [kerneltrap.org] yeah Linus its called the clap. That kind of attitude was fine when it was just him and his buds trading builds on IRC, but it ain't 1993 anymore and that kind of bullshit won't cut it in retail.

    As a wise Linux user told me when I complained about the constant driver breaks "Yeah, it does that, you just have to get used to it" which is fine if your time is worthless and you think spending an evening in front of Bash while trawlling the forums for "fixes" is nice? Then I'm happy for you. But as a retailer I can tell you that kind of shit just won't fly if you want more than the 1% you currently have. if you want the public to embrace you then you have to give them what THEY want, not tell them they have to do things YOUR way. They will NOT "Open up Bash and type" and in fact see the term for what it is, a 70s throwback that doesn't belong on a modern OS, they will NOT trawl forums for "fixes", nor will they spend days looking up obsolete hardware lists in the hopes of finding something that they can buy that will actually work in Linux.

    Fix this, make it so there is a stable ABI or hell sacrifice Linus to Cthulu if that is what it takes so drivers are "write once, use for years" and retailers like me will be happy to carry your product. think we like shelling out for Windows licenses? Hell no! But I can't sell a product where every 6 months something can be broken for a week or more because Linus got an itch and Goatse'd the kernel. It is simple math folks, you have X number of guys qualified to maintain drivers, you have Y times tens of thousands of drivers. Even if the driver devs never slept and spent 24/7 doing nothing but rewriting borked drivers you would ALWAYS be behind!

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