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Richard Stallman's Dissenting View of Steve Jobs 1452

Garabito writes "Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation, has posted his not-so-fond memories of Steve Jobs on his personal site, saying, 'As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." Nobody deserves to have to die — not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing.' His statement has spurred reaction from the community; some even asking to the Free Software movement to find a new voice."
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Richard Stallman's Dissenting View of Steve Jobs

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  • by walterbyrd ( 182728 ) on Monday October 10, 2011 @09:50AM (#37661704)

    Jobs may have helped bring about some significant technologies. But Apple, and Jobs, come no where near what the fanboys think. And in many respects, Jobs was just another scam artist.

    http://techrights.org/2011/10/07/steve-jobs/

  • Re:Thank god (Score:5, Informative)

    by WankersRevenge ( 452399 ) on Monday October 10, 2011 @09:52AM (#37661762)

    Dude ... the contemporary news media is entirely shameful. They will do this to any story that gets eyeballs. They will wring it for every last drop of blood, then jump on it to see if it produces any more and even when it's clearly dead, they will continue to twist and shimmy the fucker until there's nothing left.

    Do yourself and cut the cable. There's plenty of other ways to get your news. Or at the very least, keep it off for awhile. After awhile, you'll be surprised to find out that you won't miss it.

  • Re:Thank god (Score:5, Informative)

    by slim ( 1652 ) <john.hartnup@net> on Monday October 10, 2011 @10:13AM (#37662120) Homepage

    Stallman should remember that he isn't just any random character fighting for software freedom. He's the self-appointed publicity figure for open source movement,

    Stallman is the self-appointed publicity figure for the Free Software Foundation.

    "Open Source" is not a label preferred by the FSF, because it de-emphasises freedom.

    I sort of agree that Stallman isn't a very palatable spokesman - but on the other hand, the FSF has an uncompromising message, and requires an uncompromising figurehead.

  • by G3ckoG33k ( 647276 ) on Monday October 10, 2011 @10:18AM (#37662208)

    "Stallman who?"

    Stallman who made Linux possible. No I won't call it FNU/Linux or whatever.

    Stallman who made Steve Jobs mac OS possible... Without the GPL license, and applied in a dual license, a lot of the MacOS show-offs wouldn't have been there... Have you ever hurd of Safari, just to mention one.

    Still, Stallman has made is an enormous impact on planet Earth, quite possibly much larger than that of Jobs. Stallman is just the unhurd of version of Jobs, and w/o turtle-neck. The GPL (which has Linux as a subset) made it for a hurd of other free software licenses as well.

    Stallman's contributions stand on their own, whether or not correct and/or not politically correct.

  • Re:Stallman and FOSS (Score:4, Informative)

    by DrgnDancer ( 137700 ) on Monday October 10, 2011 @10:28AM (#37662400) Homepage

    extreme censorship against FLOSS

    Err... doesn't OSX contain fairly substantial amounts of FLOSS, and isn't Apple known as a reasonably responsible licensee and even contributor for most projects they use? I recall a few instances where they were accused of a license violation, but they seem to respond to most of these accusations by correcting whatever they've done wrong. Granted, not always instantly, but they do fix it.

  • by Octorian ( 14086 ) on Monday October 10, 2011 @10:49AM (#37662826) Homepage

    And anyone who's stumbled across old DEC hardware knows that the round mouse long pre-dated the iMac.

  • by mlingojones ( 919531 ) on Monday October 10, 2011 @10:50AM (#37662848) Homepage
    Thaaaaaaaaaat is not Techdirt. It's a publication with a similar name but which I've never heard of (and also seems to harbor some odd hatred for Apple).
  • Re:Sounds fair. (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 10, 2011 @10:57AM (#37662976)

    I've always loved how "it was because of the record companies". You know, that clearly was the truth, especially with how Apple refused to license their DRM to third parties which would have then allowed one to migrate their media collection to a non-Apple product. Yes, I'm certain that Apple had no interest what-so-ever in a vender lock-in, where if you moved away from their products your entire media collection, and all that money you spent would effectively have been thrown away. And Apple removed the DRM and all that media library vendor lock-in strictly from the kindness of their hearts and not in any way because they could see other competitors which were DRM free that were up and coming and feared losing their monopoly on digital music distribution.

    Get real, they removed their DRM when they smelled competition and knew they wouldn't be able to compete. Period.

  • Re:No kidding (Score:5, Informative)

    by BasilBrush ( 643681 ) on Monday October 10, 2011 @10:59AM (#37663018)

    there are still people walking around who believe we have Al Gore to thank for the Internet

    It's only right wing rubes that believe Al Gore said he invented the internet. I won 5 EUROs from one such idiot a while ago. YouTube is a wonderful resource for being able to go back and see what people actually said.

    Al Gore was however responsible for allocating the government money which was used to create the widely accessible internet from earlier government networks such as ARPANET. That's a fact. Whether you want to be thankful for it is up to you.

    ***Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn noted that, "as far back as the 1970s, Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship [...] the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication."***
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore [wikipedia.org]

  • by Jeremiah Cornelius ( 137 ) on Monday October 10, 2011 @11:57AM (#37664320) Homepage Journal

    FWIW, I own a MacBook Air and an iPhone 3GS.

    People who view Apple as an enabler of freedom are those who think the same thing of their EZpass for road tolls. Someday, they will see their "internal passport" as an enabler of travel.

    The fact is, that the "1984" campaign was a propaganda ruse. Jobs and Hertzfeld and crew were already working with DARPA and the spooks.

    Read all of the following - including the links - and understand that it is no exaggeration to understand that with the introduction of "Siri", George Orwell's "Telescreen" is on the verge of reality - in your pocket.

    http://cryptogon.com/?p=25289 [cryptogon.com]
    http://venturebeat.com/2008/10/13/shadowy-government-project-spins-off-siri-to-help-direct-your-affairs/ [venturebeat.com]

  • by Kyusaku Natsume ( 1098 ) on Monday October 10, 2011 @02:20PM (#37667136)

    06 October 2011 (Steve Jobs)

    Steve Jobs, the pioneer of the computer as a jail made cool, designed to sever fools from their freedom, has died.

    As Chicago Mayor Harold Washington said of the corrupt former Mayor Daley, "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." Nobody deserves to have to die - not Jobs, not Mr. Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing.

    Unfortunately, that influence continues despite his absence. We can only hope his successors, as they attempt to carry on his legacy, will be less effective.

    That was a incredibly poorly thought remark. The FOSS movement is a political movement as much as a technological movement. In politics, what you say and how you say it matters. FOSS already have the drawback that is composed mostly from nerds lacking social skills, to have the most visible mouthpiece of the movement expressing himself so poorly is another unnecessary obstacle. He could have said:

      "Despite his death and economical success, I still believe that the vision of Steve Jobs in computing is a menace to fundamental freedoms now an in the future. I have sympathy for his family in this moments of loss, but I can't ignore the dangerous effects of his work."

    Instead, what he wrote is more akin a what a teen would post to twitter after doing a tantrum. It is simply too low for the man that wrote the GPL and "The right to read".

  • Proprietary (Score:0, Informative)

    by twoblink ( 201439 ) on Monday October 10, 2011 @04:25PM (#37669880)

    I convinced that the people who like Jobs, are the same Obama voters. They sell their souls for an iphone, because it's "cool" just like voting for Obama. An iphone does what? Makes you poor, and sometimes makes a phone call. Voting for Obama makes you poor, and makes all of us poor. But please don't bother these people with trivialities. I have people who tell me that an iphone can do things an android phone can't.. and I asked what, and of course, no answer. These are the same people that told me that an ipod can do things other mp3 players can't. And an ipad can do things others can't etc.. They all just eat the marketing cupcakes and drink the marketing koolaid. I'm not glad that he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone.

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