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KDE 3.5 Fork Trinity Releases First Major Update 161

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First time accepted submitter Z_God writes "Disappointed with KDE 4's performance and other shortcomings, Timothy Pearson continued KDE 3.5 development under the name Trinity. Tuesday the first major update of the Trinity Desktop Environment was released providing an alternative upgrade path for KDE users that do not feel comfortable with KDE 4. The Trinity Desktop Environment should provide a fast and familiar experience for all users expecting a traditional desktop environment. Packages are available for Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora from the Trinity project site."
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KDE 3.5 Fork Trinity Releases First Major Update

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  • I might give this a try. One of the reasons I stopped using KDE was because it was painfully slow on my poor laptop.

  • I assume QT 3.x is still required. While it's technically Free software and all that, the subsequent additional freeing (LGPL) of QT 4.x in my mind makes it a lot more relevant. If that's the case, is there hope that this team would attempt to port Trinity to QT 4 in the future? Now THAT would really turn heads, at least in my opinion. I'd use it in a heartbeat.
    • I hate to reply to myself, but it looks like it was started but stalled due to QT 4 bugs and slowness. I found this through the slashdotted project roadmap. Is it really that much worse? Can anyone speak to this?
    • They are porting everything to use an abstraction layer (I believe called TQ), which they in turn hope to port to QT 4, but it's a long process.

      • by Anonymous Coward
        Oh good idea. Qt is an abstraction, or an abstraction, of an abstraction. Let's add another abstraction on top. Sorry... what was that about "bloated".
    • by arcctgx (607542)

      As far as I remember, port to Qt4 is planned for the future. You might want to check the project's roadmap, once the wesite becomes more responsive: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/RoadMap [trinitydesktop.org]

  • ...to get even earlier versions :P For some reason that I can only attribute to nostalgia, I've always wanted to use KDE 1 and KDE 2.
    • Me too. Loved the GNOME desktop that came with Linux Mandrake sometime around 2001 or 02. Those were the days. Desktops were lean, clean and got out of your way. These days logging into either of the big two (KDE, GNOME) desktops is like walking into a fair; lots of noise and eye-candy, making you gawp and try to find your way around...
      • by X0563511 (793323)

        I've not used gnome 3, but KDE 4 hardly feels that way. I get around just as well (if not better) than I did in 3.x

      • I remember those years -- Gnome on Sawfish under TurboLinux looked real good. I loved the way it glistened. But it kept crashing, so I went back to whatever KDE was current then, 1.1, 1.2 I forgit.

        So I am reminded of this when I try KDE-4. Pretty but dumb and unstable as well.

        I will try trinity!

    • You can! Download an old copy of the Mandrake installation discs. 7.2 will get you KDE 1; 8.2 will get you KDE 2. Having used both in their time, KDE1 is very much a first try, while the final releases of KDE 2 were actually pretty good.

  • Great news about KDE3.5.

    Now could we get a continuation of Gnome2?

    We could call it Old Gnome Users of America [wikipedia.org].

  • by kimvette (919543) on Wednesday November 02, 2011 @03:34PM (#37924454) Homepage Journal

    Trinity is a good name for it, because the server got nuked!

    • by lanner (107308)

      The fact that the server got overloaded is a testament to how much us KDE4 users hate KDE4 (and how much the KDE developers apparently hate us).

      I've been using XFCE too and will probably switch my desktop here on a day where some upgrade breaks everything horribly, as it has several times in the past. However, I'll check out Trinity and see if it's worthy. I like the way XFCE looks, but there are a number of annoyances that I've not gotten past yet.

      • by Compaqt (1758360)

        Let's all take this opportunity to vote with our clicks.

        Get in touch with your favorite distro and let them know you want to upgrade to old Gnome and old KDE.

        If you were on Ubuntu, let Mint know the direction you want them to go in the future.

  • by sl4shd0rk (755837) on Wednesday November 02, 2011 @03:37PM (#37924494)

    Nepomuk must be indexing the files on his server right now.

  • by KiloByte (825081) on Wednesday November 02, 2011 @03:40PM (#37924554)

    That's KDE, and what's with Gnome? Gnome3 consists nearly solely of regressions, there's barely any functionality left. The primary mode, "gnome-shell" is beyond words, acting as everyone has fat fingers on a 3'' touchscreen, combining worst ideas of iPhone and Windows Phone ("you can't run a program more than once", etc). The secondary mode, "gnome-fallback" is a bad joke too -- no usable panel, no desktop, no messing with the menu (try right clicking... try dragging...). Individual programs are no better: for example, someone had the brilliant idea of taking away the tray mode from RhythmBox. Oh, and network-manager (AKA "no network more complex than single DHCP") is a hard dependency.

    There is a fork attempt called "Mate" but it doesn't look that promising yet. I wonder whether it's a matter of time, or if it's time to migrate to XFCE or something. As Linus and ESR said, XFCE feels like a big step back.

    • by sqldr (838964)

      Gnome3 consists nearly solely of regressions

      your opinion. not sure what you mean by running a program more than once - try the middle button. gnome 2 didn't have a usable panel. It had a taskbar cluttered with tasks. The taskbar was a bad overly clicky idea from day one. No desktop? You mean icons on it? I usually fill my screen with windows. Why would I want icons -underneath- my windows? You have to drag them out of the way first.

      I agree with you about rhythmbox.. sort of. It needs to be a top-b

    • The primary mode, "gnome-shell" is beyond words, acting as everyone has fat fingers on a 3'' touchscreen

      WHEN will Gnome finally design a UI to accommodate my tiny tiny fingers? We are stuck waiting for Frodo to fork Gnome and give us GnomeHobbit.

    • by arose (644256)
      And Gnome 2 was nothing but regressions on Gnome 1, which in turn was only an ideologically inspired copy of KDE, which in turn was nothing but a crappy copy of Windows, which in turn was nothing but a crash-happy Mac clone on top of DOS, and so forth...
    • by illtud (115152)

      That's KDE, and what's with Gnome? Gnome3 consists nearly solely of regressions, there's barely any functionality left. The primary mode, "gnome-shell" is beyond words, acting as everyone has fat fingers on a 3'' touchscreen, combining worst ideas of iPhone and Windows Phone ("you can't run a program more than once", etc). The secondary mode, "gnome-fallback" is a bad joke too -- no usable panel, no desktop, no messing with the menu (try right clicking... try dragging...).

      Hear, hear. As a very happy Fedora

    • Not a huge step back - I'm using Xfce with my favourite GNOME apps and it's not annoying me (which is my primary criterion).

      IMPORTANT: If using Xubuntu, install fresh - any Unity infection on the system will mess with Xfce because it uses GTK+.

  • Is "Trinity" a deliberate allusion to "Unity"?

    • Is "Trinity" a deliberate allusion to "Unity"?

      No. Unity is merely one third of Trinity.
      Its name is one of the few honest aspects of Unity.

    • by Lord Kano (13027)

      Is "Trinity" a deliberate allusion to "Unity"?

      No. I believe it's a reference to the Holy Trinity.

      As I understand it, Mr. Pearson is a devout Christian.
      LK

  • This is one of the best things about OSS. Anyone can fork and when there is a strong need, the fork will happen.

    I'm spoilt for choice

    I pitty the slaves of a their Master's view of computing (yes, fanboys, I mean you)

    • by savuporo (658486)
      The problem with that is, you have all the forks around, and there are great time intervals where there isn't anything moderately stable and up to date to use.

      My main working laptop is still on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and it's getting quite long in the tooth with the lack of up to date software features, even at base libraries level. For the time being, i practically have no upgrade path either, so if i want a particular up to date software package i am often forced dget -x/dpkg-buildpackage it from either Debia
  • Do any of you happen to know if KAudio Creator still works in Trinity? I've yet to find a CD ripper that actually works anywhere near as well as KAudio Creator for ripping tons of disk at a time, I open an instance for each drive and it works beautifully. All the rest of the rippers I've used are buggy as hell or more complicated than I want to deal with for the size of collection I have to rip (what's with K3B skipping the first track? It's been a known bug for a long time). I might throw Trinity on th

    • by shish (588640)
      Unless someone has seriously messed up, then all apps work in all desktop environments
  • by halivar (535827) <bfelger&gmail,com> on Wednesday November 02, 2011 @04:56PM (#37925446) Homepage

    After my release-day copy of KDE 3.5 just finished compiling, too! Of all the luck...

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