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Microsoft Upgrading Windows Users To Latest Version of MSIE 476

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helix2301 writes "Microsoft will be upgrading all Windows XP, Vista and 7 users to the latest IE silently. They are doing this because they have found a large number of non-patched systems. Microsoft pointed out that Chrome and Firefox do this regularly. They will start with Australia and Brazil in January, then go world-wide after they have assured there are no issues."
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Microsoft Upgrading Windows Users To Latest Version of MSIE

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  • by epedersen (863120) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @02:42PM (#38386098)
    Do they start with Australia and Brazil because they do not care about the users there?
  • finally! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by sneakyimp (1161443) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @02:42PM (#38386104)

    I can't believe it's taken this long.

  • by thestudio_bob (894258) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @02:43PM (#38386118)

    They will start with Australia and Brazil in January, then go world-wide after they have assured there are no issues.

    Haha, I guess a big thanks goes out to Australia and Brazil for being the beta testers. Thanks!

    • by xs650 (741277)
      <quote><blockquote><div><p>They will start with Australia and Brazil in January, then go world-wide after they have <strong>assured there are no issues</strong>.</p></div></blockquote><p>Haha, I guess a big thanks goes out to Australia and Brazil for being the beta testers. Thanks!</p></quote>

      Australia is the alpha tester, Brazil the beta tester.
  • by JazzyJ (1995) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @02:43PM (#38386130) Homepage Journal

    I think Microsoft is going to find plenty of issues trying to roll this out in the US.

  • by mrtwice99 (1435899) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @02:44PM (#38386136)
    I know there might be negative ramifications, but I'm glad to see this day arrive. The sooner old IEs die, the better.
  • Good. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by wolrahnaes (632574) <seanNO@SPAMseanharlow.info> on Thursday December 15, 2011 @02:44PM (#38386142) Homepage Journal

    Fuck IE6. Fuck it hard. Companies that have been dragging their feet on this for years need a hard kick in the ass, and this is how to do it.

    If something breaks because of this, you only have yourself to blame. Anyone still running this shit intentionally knew they were on a path to pain.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 15, 2011 @02:44PM (#38386148)

    Because they are not running Windows updates. at all. And therefore this is not going to have an effect.

    • by MightyYar (622222)

      Or it's my wife's computer and she just keeps dismissing ANY message that comes up without reading it.

    • by ewhac (5844)
      ...Or it's me, who long ago told WinUpdate to never attempt to "upgrade" IE, for the simple fact that I was never ever going to use IE (except to download FIrefox).

      Every time Micros~1 updates IE, they fsck around with the defaults -- incorrectly, of course -- and I have to dive through half a dozen panes of preferences settings to bludgeon the thing back into submission. So, no, Micros~1, leave the damned thing alone.

      (I also long ago uninstalled MSIE which, for some inane reason, is distinct from IE.)

  • by sandytaru (1158959) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @02:46PM (#38386174) Journal
    We tried. We really did. Then our users started to complain that their browsing history was gone. Apparently, some of them had never heard of this strange thing called "bookmarks."
  • by DigiShaman (671371) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @02:47PM (#38386190) Homepage

    So far, I'm found a few XP and Windows7 PC that automatically install and schedule a reboot regardless of your Automatic Update settings. For some reason, MS decided to override this policy with some super-secret update policy I've never seen before. This would be the first time I've noticed it. These machines are always update to date each month and some are on a domain while others in workgroup mode. Anyways, the updates that got push out this week will prompt a user every 15 minutes to reboot. It's like a dead man's switch. If you ignore the option to postpone the reboot, it does it on it's own.

    I smell a lawsuit coming for loss of user data that hand't had a chance to be saved while open on the desktop.

    • by Spad (470073)

      If you've got machines on a domain that aren't properly configured to a) Update automatically from an internally managed WSUS server on a regular basis and b) Set to suppress and/or reschedule automatic restarts out of working hours then frankly you deserve any data loss you get.

  • While I'm ok with this as an end user and I actively use chrome at home so I'm used to this, I can't help but wonder if this is going to either be a godsend or nightmare for the enterprise IT crowd. However, the shop I work in is fairly good about letting go of things such as the infamous IE6 and we've had very little issues with the latest.

    • by Spad (470073)

      Any enterprise IT department worthy of continued employment will be running all Windows updates through their own WSUS server anyway and so will be free to leave their XP clients running IE6 if they so desire.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Billly Gates (198444)

      Godsend longterm, but nightmate short term. XP really is an inappropriate os to use in 2011. No aslr, dep for all services, trim command, html 5, uac, default admin write, usb 3, the list goes on.

      Even firefox and chrome run without dep, aslr, and other security features in XP. Management does not know this.

      Upgrading an intranet to IE 8 will make it work in any future version of IE. All these things will make it a dream at work, but a nightmare for the bean counters and CFOs who are ignorant and demand the

  • "...after they have assured there are no issues..." Besides the faulty English, this little line sends shivers all over my spine.
  • by JMZero (449047) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @02:52PM (#38386292) Homepage

    after they have assured there are no issues

    IE 6 is a very, very different browser from IE 9. We've had plenty of clients who can't move off IE 6 (or are in the middle of a large project to do so) because it's the only one that will run their Intranet site correctly. I've seen MS make this type of mistake before - they don't see many public-facing sites using a technology, so they feel safe getting rid of it. Well, yes, very few public-facing sites are going to use crazy IE specific stuff, and most are (by now) going to be making reasonable efforts to work between browsers.

    Intranet sites are a whole other kettle of fish; corporate programmers often target a single browser - and for many of them, that was IE for a long time. They got away with that from IE 4 to IE 6 because MS just added stuff. With IE 7 and, particularly, Vista, they started fixing insecure and non-standard behaviors - and that's part of why so many companies are still on XP and IE 6.

    If MS does this, there will be a lot of pissed off people and gnashing of teeth. I'm not saying it's the wrong choice but "once they've assured there's no issues" sounds pretty silly.

  • IE9 for XP? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Svenne (117693) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @02:54PM (#38386326) Homepage

    Really? When did this happen?

  • As a web developer (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheSpoom (715771) <slashdot@uberm00. n e t> on Thursday December 15, 2011 @03:00PM (#38386428) Homepage Journal

    THANK YOU! The number of people using IE 6 and 7 is about to dramatically decline, which is roughly proportional to the number of headaches I will be getting on a daily basis.

  • Find the devil (Score:5, Informative)

    by ojintoad (1310811) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @03:24PM (#38386782)

    Respecting Customer Choice and Control

    While the benefits of upgrading are numerous, we recognize that some organizations and individuals may want to opt-out and set their own upgrade pace. One of the things we’re committed to as we move to auto updates is striking the right balance for consumers and enterprises – getting consumers the most up-to-date version of their browser while allowing enterprises to update their browsers on their schedule. The Internet Explorer 8 and Internet Explorer 9 Automatic Update Blocker toolkits prevent automatic upgrades of IE for Windows customers who do not want them. Of course, we firmly believe that IE9 is the most compelling browser for business customers, and we want them to make the decision to upgrade at their convenience.

    Similarly, customers who have declined previous installations of IE8 or IE9 through Windows Update will not be automatically updated. Customers have the ability to uninstall updates and continue to receive support for the version of IE that came with their copy of Windows. And similar to organizations, consumers can block the update all together and upgrade on their own. Finally, future versions of IE will provide an option in the product for consumers to opt out of automatic upgrading.

    So if you opted out before you're not going to get it. And I imagine you'll be able to back track anyway. Also they have "blocker toolkits" so you can really be sure.

  • by irregular_hero (444800) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @03:27PM (#38386832)

    Don't get me wrong; I'm all in favor of this -- I want earlier versions of IE to die a thousand silent deaths, but...

    This will hurt some large enterprises who have specifically designed certain website features to work only in IE. Older versions of IE tended to have some quirky rendering behaviors and a lot of sites rely on those quirks. Taking the browser directly to the latest IE will render things in IE "Standards" mode which will break some of these sites.

    They better read up on how to explicitly set IE rendering modes:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc288325(v=vs.85).aspx

    Three ways to do this: 1) do it in the page body with a META tag, 2) do it in the HTTP headers with the X-UA-Compatible header, or 3) push a GPO update to your internal IE clients that forces the browser to render the sites you specify in "IE Compatibility Mode".

  • rolling out IE9 (Score:4, Informative)

    by Muramas95 (2459776) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @03:31PM (#38386904)
    I have no problem with this but my main issue is that they bundled C++ 2008 runtimes with IE9... In my office IE9 patched our runtimes and it caused issues with the software we are developing which made it unable to be compiled. I hope for their sakes that they don't do the same thing.
  • by JDG1980 (2438906) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @04:06PM (#38387480)

    Too bad that they're still not backporting IE9 to XP, which continues to have a massive market share, especially on the corporate desktop. This really annoys me as a web developer, since it means that until after 2014 (when XP support officially ends) we cannot use CSS3 features and SVG images and expect them to work for everyone.

    *Yes, I know, graceful degradation. But management wants those nice rounded corners and drop-shadows to appear in IE8, not just Firefox and Chrome. Using css3pie helps a bit, but it's not bug-free, and in many cases special debugging still needs to be done for IE. And I don't know of any effective workaround to display SVGs in IE8 without making everyone download a plugin.

  • by cshark (673578) on Thursday December 15, 2011 @05:24PM (#38388926)
    My friends, it's time for a conga line!

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