Go Daddy Loses Over 21,000 Domains In One Day 356
First time accepted submitter expo53d writes "CNET reports that yesterday 21,054 domains were pulled off Domaincontrol.com, a subsidiary of GoDaddy. While this maybe a coincidence, it is likely to be caused by GoDaddy's controversial support for SOPA. It seems that GoDaddy's attempts at remedying the problem were of no use."
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:5, Insightful)
Government regulation of an industry increases the cost of entry for new competition. Established business will support something that gives them that kind of edge.
Democracy. (Score:5, Insightful)
Their "remedy" is to support it from the shadows. (Score:5, Insightful)
I can only hope that when more and more special interests begin to require that their support of some law mustn't be made public, the politicians taking the money stop for a second and think about what the hell they're doing.
BWHAHAA. As if! Man, sometimes I kill myself.
Carry on, corrupt entities.
Re:Democracy. (Score:5, Insightful)
good thing everyone has the same number of votes in their wallets.
democracy.
Re:Democracy. (Score:3, Insightful)
Voting with your wallets is much more effective then the fake choice presented in elections.
That depends on how fat your wallet is.
Re:Democracy. (Score:5, Insightful)
Voting with your wallets is much more effective then the fake choice presented in elections. Hopefully, people will finally realize that in today's world, it's the best way to start making a difference.
No. You do both. My New Year wish for the world is actually that also Americans would bother to turn up and vote at an election. Instead of giving up before even trying, and by that handing the control over to the people who do bother. And if the result shouldn't be perfect the first time, you turn up even stronger next time. The politicans who want to keep their seat will start to get the message.
In a democracy the poor will have more power than the rich, because there are more of them, and the will of the majority is supreme. ~Aristotle
Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~George Jean Nathan
I'm tired of hearing it said that democracy doesn't work. Of course it doesn't work. We are supposed to work it. ~Alexander Woollcott
People often say that, in a democracy, decisions are made by a majority of the people. Of course, that is not true. Decisions are made by a majority of those who make themselves heard and who vote - a very different thing. ~Walter H. Judd
Re:Spellchecking (Score:3, Insightful)
What does "suprisingly" mean?
Re:Very good point! (Score:5, Insightful)
GoDaddy has NOT withdrawn its official congressional support for SOPA
That's great... Yesterday, I figured I'll just leave my 15 domains there since they backed off their support.. but apparently only in words.
The way I see it, GoDaddy should be happy people are leaving.. if you run a site that has any user content, SOPA will mean you'll have to shut it down anyway.
godaddy + sopa support = one less godaddy domain
sopa passes = one less godaddy domain
So they're getting what they want either way. They should be happy.
Re:Democracy. (Score:3, Insightful)
You obviously don't realize just how small the middle class is right now and it keeps getting smaller.
Primarily because the tax-consumer class keep voting themselves more of the middle class' money. Democracy can only last until the majority realise they can vote to steal from the minority.
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Democracy. (Score:4, Insightful)
Democracy can only last until the majority realise they can vote to steal from the minority.
Your statement is close to the truth. What's happening in America today is the people with the majority of the money vote to steal from the people with the minority of the money.
Re:Very good point! (Score:5, Insightful)
Yesterday, I figured I'll just leave my 15 domains there since they backed off their support.. but apparently only in words.
No offense, but this is an example of how gullible people can be and how easy it can be to manipulate them. Say some pretty words and people will continue mindlessly giving you money to erode their own freedoms with. I wish more people understood the ideas behind public relations and marketing. But let's go over it again: you can't trust what corporations say to you. They will always make statements that stand to gain them the most favor, whether the statements are true or not.
One has to actually use one's brain a little. Why would GoDaddy support SOPA, and then less than 24 hours later NOT support it? Do you think it's because they all changed their minds over there for some reason? Do you think they learned something new about SOPA they didn't know before? Or is it because they saw a pending backlash on the internet and wanted to release a bullshit statement that would satiate the docile among us? Do you really think they "backed off their support"? This is not difficult to figure out with a little bit of thought.
Re:Democracy. (Score:5, Insightful)
If you want a larger turnout for the elections, you need to offer better candidates; many people stay at home because they despise the choices offered to them.
Again, the solution to this is to work harder. Don't just wait until the general election; get involved in the primaries. And don't just concentrate on the big-ticket races (President, Governor, US Senator and Representative); pay attention to races for state legislature, city council, board of education, county commissioner, etc. The only way we're going to get better candidates is if more people pay attention to the process by which candidates are made. By the time the Tuesday after the first Monday in November rolls around, it's too late.
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:3, Insightful)
Someone needs to go and burn down the Capital building already.
I've been puzzled from the beginning as to why the OWS protesters aren't in front of the Capitol and the White House. They're the ones ultimately responsible for Wall Street corruption, because it necessarily requires a corrupt government in order to exist and grow.
For corruption to flourish in the private sector requires a corrupt government, for only with a corrupt government can the corrupt businesses and individuals be protected from the People and Justice.
Strat
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:5, Insightful)
follow the money. isn't it always the way to understanding things, today?
For corporations, yes. For politicians, Yes. For religions, YES! Not necessarily for all individuals.
Re:Democracy. (Score:5, Insightful)
Eventually, the politicians should be accountable directly to the people.
For a starter, any type of accountability would do.
CC.
Re:Very good point! (Score:5, Insightful)
I see that you're joking, but for the record, I bet you can find a registrar who will gladly take a transfer from GoDaddy for practically no charge.
If you are small company like GoDaddy, and not a complete asshat, this appears to be a pretty good opportunity to get a whole bunch of new customers.
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:5, Insightful)
That's kind of dumb. Do you think government is corrupting Wall Street, or is Wall Street's money corrupting government?
The whole thing is solved by a simple set of campaign finance rules. Publicly-funded campaigns. Take the money out of politics, and you'd be surprised how quickly things turn around. But as long as a very few people have all the power and money, they will be the ones in charge of government. When it takes $50 million to become a senator, and only corporations can donate really big money, guess what? corporations are going to have the power. The structure of our government is not corrupt. With sufficient will, every single elected office can change hands within 7 short years.
If there's a problem, look to your neighbors. Look to yourself. Somebody is electing these turds. As far as I can tell, there is only one US senator that doesn't take corporate money and he's a socialist. Maybe there are some congressmen who don't take corporate money, I don't know, but if there are, it's only a very few.
If OWS is going to focus on any government building, it should be the United States Supreme Court, that sold off the last shreds of good government with one decision. Maybe go directly to the homes of Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Kennedy, Roberts.
Re:Very good point! (Score:5, Insightful)
They will always make statements that stand to gain them the most favor, whether the statements are true or not.
You're close. Corporations say and do that which will gain them the most money. They exist solely for the purpose of returning value to their shareholders.
If currying favour with the general public will gain them money, then they will do that. However, if pissing off the 90% will help them mine hordes of cash from the pockets of the other 10%, they will gladly do so.
Corporations are not moral entities -- they are devoid of conscience. Even the individuals who comprise the corporation must give secondary consideration to moral issues where they conflict with the primary purpose of making money.
Corporations must never consider an individual's circumstances -- not customers', not employees' nor even individual shareholders' -- all are subject to the overwhelming need to maximize return on investment.
One might argue that the extreme compensation paid to corporate executives violates this, but in those cases is it usually the extreme greed of the individuals involved, coupled with extreme manipulative behaviour that have convinced shareholders that such compensation will maximize their own return on investment.
In such a context, only greedy psychopaths remain eligible to inherit the American dream.
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:5, Insightful)
Because the seat of power in the US is not in fact in Washington DC, but in corporate boardrooms.
Re:20,034 transferred in the same day (Score:5, Insightful)
This is probably the most important thing you miss if you don't read the article. GoDaddy lost only about 1k domains.
Re:Democracy. (Score:4, Insightful)
"Today's youth"? Really? You telling us that yesterday's youth was any better?
Re:Very good point! (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Very good point! (Score:2, Insightful)
I have a lot of other stuff to do (like my 100 hour work weeks) ...
You have a shitty job.
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:4, Insightful)
There are ~3.6 trillion reasons why this will not work.
Hint: as long as there are 532 people divvying up $3.6 trillion, there are going to be people willing to spend millions (or billions) to "influence" those 532 people for a piece of that $3.6 trillion pie.
Face it, spending a BILLION dollars to buy a couple percent of the Federal Budget is a bargain. And realistically, it doesn't cost anywhere near that much to buy Congresscritters.
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:1, Insightful)
> Government regulation of an industry increases the cost of entry for new competition. Established business will support something that gives them that kind of edge.
I disagree. Government regulation is essential for Capitalism to work. This is not Anarchy.
Besides, that kind of regulation would increase costs not only for new entrants but also for the small fish; that is precisely what the big guys want. Everybody is noticing that the future will be less bright.
Someone recently said elsewhere the increased tax on tea helped to start the American Revolution and thus the root of the problem would be monetary. I don't think so, in my view people are tolerant up to a point and when a threshold is surpassed, people say "Enough!".
SOPA is like that IMHO and GoDaddy unwisely stepped on that threshold (again IMHO). Should SOPA be abandoned, I don't think people could stomach other similar initiatives.
Can greed beat anger? I'd say not -- or at least not forever.
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:5, Insightful)
Government regulation of an industry increases the cost of entry for new competition.
Except when the cost of entry goes down to zero because no one dares to compete with UNregulated monopolies and cartels.
BTW, if you have a recipe for getting corporate influence out of government without regulation (in a sense restricting the corporations' FREEEEEDOM), please do the world a favor and let us know. Otherwise, most of us are beyond tired of hearing simplistic aphorisms from the planet Rand.
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:3, Insightful)
Which party is acting as human shields to protect tax cuts for the rich at any cost and fighting a measly short-term payroll tax cut that will only benefit the non-rich?
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:3, Insightful)
It's only idealogues who argue about either point. This is a false dichotomy.
Re:Democracy. (Score:5, Insightful)
In order for democracy to work, the populace must be of sufficient intellect to make the best decisions for itself. The masses cannot do this, and this reality is unchangeable.
That which we call "critical" or "abstract" thinking generally requires an IQ of 110 or greater. The average IQ of the U.S. citizen is 98. This means that the majority of Americans have an IQ of less than 100. Those with IQs of less than 100 tend to make decisions based on repetition and consensus rather than critical analysis, and even "smart" people have a difficult time resisting the lure of basing conclusions on "common knowledge".
As such, people can be fairly easily persuaded to vote against their own interests time, and time, and time again.
Democracy as a means of preventing tyranny and corruption is fairly useless, for democracy is 3 geniuses, 20 bright people, and 500 idiots voting on a course of action. The numbers are made up, but you get the gist, and they are probably not far off. When someone with an IQ of 65 has an equal influence on important matters as does a person with an IQ of 140, the Achilles heel of of democracy becomes evident.
A benevolent dictatorship, to whatever extent one can truly exist, would be a far better, more fair, more efficient, more humane form of government than is democracy.
GoDaddy will be fine, because even though Slashdotters know what SOPA is, 90% of people have no clue as to what is going on.
Despite nearly 18 months of seeming outrage over the TSA's backscatter and groping, airline travel was up this holiday season. Bloggers and talking heads were pissed, but Joe and Jane Soccermom remained oblivious. Were it put to a vote tomorrow, the TSA's groping policy would be overwhelmingly approved by American voters.
Similarly, when SOPA or a SOPA-like law is passed, and it will be, Slashdot will blow up with comments, but the legislators who pass it will be re-elected without issue.
3 geniuses, 20 bright people, 500 idiots.
The government will once again act against the interest of the citizens, while 3 people scream, 20 people complain on Slashdot, and 500 people watch Monday Night Football.
Democracy. It doesn't work.
It never did.
It never will.
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:3, Insightful)
BTW, if you have a recipe for getting corporate influence out of government without regulation (in a sense restricting the corporations' FREEEEEDOM), please do the world a favor and let us know.
When there is nothing for influence peddlers to sell, there will be no influence sold.
More simply: take the power away from government and people won't go looking for government to do things for them.
Ironically, TFA is about the market regulating bad actors, exactly what big-government supporters say the market can't/won't do.
Re:so uh why they'd support it? (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sorry, but "Regulation is necessary" seems false to me.
In a slightly longer view, it costs money to assume that you'll continue to have paying customers if you kill/ill them with faulty beef. I think the GoDaddy situation illustrates that.
Yes, and well, too bad for all the tainted-beef-eating dead people's families. They can, however, rest easy knowing that the ShitBeefCo will go out of business and its employees will be destitute as soon as ShitBeefCo's CEO's golden parachute inflates over the Caymans, where his bonuses for improving profitbility at SBC are protected from lawsuits.
See? The market corrected itself; it killed the stupid little people, and rewarded the superior Randian Overlords who worked so hard to get through an MBA program while playing rugby and fucking Muffy in the BMW convertible!
Thank god for the invisible hand pimp-slapping us all...again. Because the market will automagically correct itself...SUCKERS.
I have friends who tell me Randroids like you seem to be are sociopaths. I'm starting to think they're right.
Oh - and I just moved my domains off of GoDaddy AND I wrote to my congresscritters. Have you?