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WikiLeaks Cable: NASDAQ Folded To Chinese Pressure 269

Posted by timothy
from the give-that-man-a-peace-prize dept.
jjp9999 writes "A WikiLeaks cable reveals that the NASDAQ folded to pressure from the Chinese regime and kicked out a U.S.-based Chinese TV network, NTD TV. The Chinese Communist Party has been trying to block this station for years now, since it's one of the few major Chinese media that refuses to censor its content. Although they're blocked in Mainland China, they broadcast in with satellites. The timing of the incident aligns well with other actions launched by the CCP against the TV station. They used to broadcast into China through French satellite company Eutelsat, but their connection was cut. Reporters Without Borders investigated and found the Chinese regime was behind it. They now use a Taiwanese satellite."
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WikiLeaks Cable: NASDAQ Folded To Chinese Pressure

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  • "Hey China... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by milbournosphere (1273186) on Thursday January 26, 2012 @11:36AM (#38829781)
    Here's our country on a silver platter." Seriously, in twenty years, we're going to regret moving our of production and debt to China. We're going be left with no leg to stand on, and only ourselves to blame.
    • by oztiks (921504)

      Twenty? I'd say 5 to 10. Problem is that on an international scale there is very little that comes out of the US that isn't via Asia. Let em see .... Film and TV, Music ..... And yeah not a hell of a lot more.

      What it will boil down to is free trade agreements the more they become redundant the quicker the US will fall prey.

      • by Tsingi (870990)

        Twenty? I'd say 5 to 10. Problem is that on an international scale there is very little that comes out of the US that isn't via Asia. Let em see .... Film and TV, Music ..... And yeah not a hell of a lot more.

        What it will boil down to is free trade agreements the more they become redundant the quicker the US will fall prey.

        But you have an unparalleled military. What do you think that is for?

        • by oztiks (921504)

          But you have an unparalleled military. What do you think that is for?

          For being sidetracked just enough for the Chinese to steal ya ammo when the American people aren't looking ;)

      • by ae1294 (1547521)

        Twenty? I'd say 5 to 10. Problem is that on an international scale there is very little that comes out of the US that isn't via Asia. Let em see .... Film and TV, Music ..... And yeah not a hell of a lot more.

        What it will boil down to is free trade agreements the more they become redundant the quicker the US will fall prey.

        and coal.

        • by oztiks (921504)

          * oztiks points to Australia and the AUD ...

          And they have pleeeennnttty of it and the world knows it. The amount of coal mines expanding in Aust is absolutely ridiculous and as result towns and jobs are lighting up like there is no tomorrow.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        there is very little that comes out of the US that isn't via Asia

        you mean china? I consider that a very different 'asia' than, say, japan. wouldn't you?

        japan has quality in design and manufacture, but they are not great inventors of new original ideas. they are copiers.

        china has major issues with its view of 'quality' and customer satisfaction/long term viability ('sell and run' mentality). they do no new invention there and are pure copier and thieves.

        sorry to generalize but you also paint with a huge

        • by oztiks (921504)

          Okay, I'm not going to argue your points because I'm right there with you, especially on the innovation. Me being a purist I not only appreciate what your saying but I also follow it myself. Problem is, I'm not rich, I'm middle class, self employed and own a bucket load of valuable IP.

          Do you know what all the my likeminded business colleges remind me of constantly? "being a purist doesn't make you rich" which is an american philosophy that we've taught the east WHILE at the same time bringing^HHHHHHHHgiving

      • by Rasperin (1034758)
        5 to 10? I'm gonna say 4 years ago and counting we've been regretting it. Think if during the recession all those jobs we created in China came back here (or never left in the first place), it would mean more spending Americans, which would mean more service jobs, etc etc etc. I understand and accept global trade but come on what we've given China is half our economy.
        • At least we're still in a position to fix it. In five years, we'll be beyond the point of no return, and I wouldn't be surprised if it ends in war with China sometime 10 years down the road.
    • Here's our country on a silver platter." Seriously, in twenty years, we're going to regret moving our of production and debt to China. We're going be left with no leg to stand on, and only ourselves to blame.

      While production is problematic; debt isn't as much so. While there is a promise to repay, there is no guarantee beyond the belief that one will repay or that a currency move wouldn't wipe out large chunk of it. The US could, for example, print enough dollars to pay off its debt. That would result in hugh economic problems, but it is not out of the relm of possibility. Hell, the could print and then reissue new Dollars at a 1 to 1 rate up to say a billion for any one person, and at a 1000000 to 1 rate abov

  • by jginspace (678908) <jginspace AT yahoo DOT com> on Thursday January 26, 2012 @11:39AM (#38829825) Homepage Journal
    Around the time the cables were released, Assange said Wikileaks were about to release a tranche of documents implicating a certain US bank in shenanigans. What happened to those?
    • I'll wager they are his nuclear option. If the worst happens and he ends up being hauled off to the US, the documents will be released.

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by spire3661 (1038968)
        And hence why i do not and cannot respect him.. Either you believe in free information or not. Hes holding secrets for political gain, jsut like anyone else in the game.
        • by characterZer0 (138196) on Thursday January 26, 2012 @12:00PM (#38830173)

          He thinks he is holding secrets for his life. He might be right.

        • by ae1294 (1547521)

          And hence why i do not and cannot respect him.. Either you believe in free information or not. Hes holding secrets for political gain, jsut like anyone else in the game.

          O come on, the man might spend the rest of his life in gitmo and you don't respect him for being smart enough to hold something back just in case? What the hell would you do different? O right, you'd never personally stick your neck out to begin with... Seriously just shut your pie hole, you're embarrassing yourself.

        • by jbolden (176878) on Thursday January 26, 2012 @12:13PM (#38830369) Homepage

          I can respect an individual who took on the major intelligence agencies and won. He's done leaks on thousands of other topics as well.

          If he holds a couple back to save his life, I think he's being wise not dishonorable. In real life people are often confronted with unpleasant choices.

      • I guess they're not in the 'Insurance' file because the password for that was leaked via the Guardian. And I think these files have been with Wikileaks since 2009 or before, so possibly those guys who split from Wikileaks have them too?
    • by SydShamino (547793) on Thursday January 26, 2012 @12:20PM (#38830445)

      Around the time the cables were released, Assange said Wikileaks were about to release a tranche of documents implicating a certain US bank in shenanigans. What happened to those?

      They were destroyed by a former WikiLeaks employee who left with them, then destroyed the key. Yes, somehow there wasn't a backup of the documents or key (or at least one of the two).

      http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/08/22/some-of-wikileaks-bank-of-america-files-destroyed-by-former-spokesman/ [rawstory.com]

      Whatever Bank of America did, they got away with it.

      • by jginspace (678908) <jginspace AT yahoo DOT com> on Thursday January 26, 2012 @02:05PM (#38831885) Homepage Journal

        They were destroyed by a former WikiLeaks employee who left with them, then destroyed the key. Yes, somehow there wasn't a backup of the documents or key (or at least one of the two).

        I'm not sure how much we can trust Domscheit-Berg and OpenLeaks. Check their News [openleaks.org] page (latest 26 Jan 2011, SSL cert expired months ago), Identi.ca [identi.ca] (5 months ago), Blog [openleaks.org] (29 Jan 2011, quote: "Right now we are working on extending our infrastructure and setting it up for testing with our alpha users group. The 1.430 Euro we received as donations in December and January will help us to do so. We will spend this money to help cover infrastructure costs e.g. SSL certificates").

        Also Thompson-Reuters isn't a terrific source when it comes to 'piracy'/'hacking' stories so here's an alternative to the rawstory.com link:
        http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/tag/daniel-domscheit-berg/ [wired.com]

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Original cable here:http://wikileaks.org/cable/2007/01/07BEIJING621.html#

  • Bummer.

    LINK - http://youtu.be/wfcTHFC1DII [youtu.be]

    American version - http://youtu.be/Sx6Gy4jUu0E [youtu.be]

  • by ibsteve2u (1184603) on Thursday January 26, 2012 @12:06PM (#38830267)
    Whereas it used to be "democratic capitalism" vs. "totalitarian communism", what we see now is the merger of the two ideologies into "totalitarian capitalism".
    • by Hatta (162192)

      Absolutely correct. The way to freedom is to merge the systems in the opposite way. That is democratic communism.

  • when many of the worlds transactions are handled by a business? They will bow, and the people will have no recourse.

Promising costs nothing, it's the delivering that kills you.

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