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Self-Guided Bullet Can Hit Targets a Mile Away 421

New submitter jpwilliams writes "Gizmag reports that researchers at Sandia National Laboratories have tested a 10-centimeter bullet that can be fired from a smooth-bore rifle to hit a laser-marked target one mile away. The bullet 'includes an optical sensor in the nose to detect a laser beam on a target. The sensor sends information to guidance and control electronics that use an algorithm in an eight-bit central processing unit to command electromagnetic actuators. These actuators steer tiny fins that guide the bullet to the target.' Interestingly, accuracy improves with targets that are further away, because 'the bullet's motions settle the longer it is in flight.'"
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Self-Guided Bullet Can Hit Targets a Mile Away

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  • Re:Dart Maybe? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by squidflakes ( 905524 ) on Tuesday January 31, 2012 @07:51PM (#38884141) Homepage

    Sounds more like it is laser-guided than self-guided too.

  • by Troggie87 ( 1579051 ) on Tuesday January 31, 2012 @07:56PM (#38884215)

    Application? How about an overhead drone carrying a payload thats roughly the same weight as now, except instead of blowing things up it just shoots you in the face. You dont have to carry a huge amount of munitions when 95% of the bullets will hit the target.

    From now on, whenever you see a new military technology you should think about how it works with drones. For example, it probably isnt a coincidence that our new magnetic launch systems on carriers will allow lighter, more fragile aircraft (read, composite drones) to be launched. The official line is it does less damage to tradition aircraft, which it does. But the guys calling the shots on this stuff make war for a living, and the writing is on the wall as far as the future goes. "Lighter. Cheaper. Disposable"

  • by Hentai ( 165906 ) on Tuesday January 31, 2012 @08:02PM (#38884305) Homepage Journal

    This is absolutely a sniper weapon. It's just not a sniper weapon to be used against prepared military assets.

    It'd do a fine job of assassinating unprepared civilian targets, though.

  • Re:Dart Maybe? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bamwham ( 1211702 ) on Tuesday January 31, 2012 @08:14PM (#38884469)
    But it costs money (no idea how much) to train that sniper, and if they are injured you've lost their value. Whereas if the guy using this gun is injured the person next to them can pick it up and use it. Not an expert of course...
  • Re:Terminology (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Nidi62 ( 1525137 ) on Tuesday January 31, 2012 @08:16PM (#38884497)

    smooth-bore rifle

    "Smooth-bore" and "rifle" are mutually-exclusive terms. Pick one.

    Except in common usage, "rifle" has come to mean any type of long gun, whether or not the barrel has rifling. In any case, what other, easy to use term would you use for a modern long gun. Musket wouldn't apply, and those are the only other shoulder arms that use smooth bores. You are just being overly pedantic.

  • Re:Dart Maybe? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by realityimpaired ( 1668397 ) on Tuesday January 31, 2012 @08:32PM (#38884673)

    World record is a mile and a half. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/sniper_kills_qaeda_from_mi_away_sTm0xFUmJNal3HgWlmEgRL [nypost.com]

    5 miles? That's pushing the limits of physics just a little too much. It would take a shitload of luck to get a hit from that far away. Farthest I've personally seen done is just over a mile (1800m).

    And as others have pointed out, it takes time and money to train a sniper. It also takes a *lot* of luck at the upper ends of distance. You have to account for ballistic trajectory, air resistance (which changes with the temperature), wind (which can change directions remarkably easily), moving targets, etc.. Even at the speeds a bullet travels at, it still takes a discernable amount of time to reach the target at that distance. Having something you can fire and forget, and let your spotter guide it to its target with a laser pointer is a huge improvement, IMO. And besides, it's not going to cost a million bucks a pop once it's in production. Development may have cost that, but nothing in the device is all that expensive to actually make.

  • by Baloroth ( 2370816 ) on Tuesday January 31, 2012 @08:34PM (#38884707)
    Just synchronize the firing of the rifle with the activation of the laser. He sees the flash and the laser at the same time, and that is assuming he is looking at exactly the right spot. Easy enough to do. You could probably do it manually, if necessary, with some practice. The laser doesn't have to be on before the gun is fired, after all, or even immediately after firing: most of the flight is still going to be influenced by ballistics.
  • by noh8rz2 ( 2538714 ) on Tuesday January 31, 2012 @08:43PM (#38884823)
    If the laser doesn't light until the trigger is pulled, whT is the point of a laser scope? I would do microsecond laser bursts. Good enough for the bullet optics and if you have the right goggles, but invisible to casual observations.
  • I guess it has to be pretty steady for the time it takes to fire this bullet (and for it to reach target), and "shot" from relatively remote location, which seem to require sniper-type skill on behalf of the "painter", but not shooter.

    It requires the high tech 'sniper' skill of "setting up a tripod, pointing the laser at the target, and then taking your hands off". Seriously, a sniper's skill lies not in putting the crosshairs on the target, but in putting the crosshairs off the target... such that wind, bullet drop due to gravity, etc.. etc.. ends up putting the bullet where the amateur would put the crosshairs - and miss. But wind, gravity, etc... don't effect the laser, so an amateur can place the crosshair by eye.

  • Re:Really? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Z8 ( 1602647 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2012 @12:33AM (#38887037)

    Thanks. From now on I'm googling the full text of every post I reply to, just in case it happens to reference some obscure civil war quote.

    No way, it's totally ridiculous to try to understand someone's post before you publicly call them a moron.

  • by Captain Hook ( 923766 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2012 @05:19AM (#38888843)
    Kind of, but you are missing an important point, since the point of this is to improve long range accuracy, well beyond the range of standard infantry weapons (SA80 400m, LSW 1000m) the squad who has this technology has a significant advantage against one that doesn't.

    There is also another possibility. The laser needs direct line of sight, but the bullet following a ballistic path only needs to find a laser dot far enough out to have time to correct it's course. Stick a recon guy with a laser designator on the ridge of a hill, keep the rest of the squad on the far side of the hill and fire above the ridge line in the general direction of the enemy. Accurate indirect fire using infantry weapons from a position that the enemy could never hit (beyond a 1 in a billion lucky shot).
  • Re:Hmmmmm (Score:5, Insightful)

    by monkeyhybrid ( 1677192 ) on Wednesday February 01, 2012 @08:06AM (#38889681)
    No offence, but is there any good reason to use domain name shorteners when posting links in forums / blogs? Surely it's easier and quicker to just copy and paste the original url, which actually has the additional benefit of giving us a clue as to where it leads to? Or maybe you're interested in the click stats Goo.gl provides?

    Having said that, I can see from your /. comments history that you're not an idiot so I did follow the link, which for anyone else interested, resolves to http://www.instructables.com/id/Laser-Ball/ [instructables.com].
  • Re:Hmmmmm (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Tsingi ( 870990 ) <.moc.liamg. .ta. .kcir.maharg.> on Wednesday February 01, 2012 @10:11AM (#38890725)
    We have snipers that can do that with pieces of lead.

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