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The Three Flavors of Windows 8 500

Posted by samzenpus
from the time-to-choose dept.
First time accepted submitter Kelerei writes "Windows 8 has been confirmed as the official name for the next x86/x64 version of Windows, which will be released in two editions: a home edition (simply named 'Windows 8') featuring an updated Windows Explorer, Task Manager, improved multi-monitor support and 'the ability to switch languages on the fly,' while a professional edition ('Windows 8 Pro') adds features for businesses and technical professionals such as encryption, virtualization and domain connectivity. Windows Media Center will not be included in the Pro edition and will be available separately as part of a 'media pack' add-on. A third edition, branded as 'Windows RT,' will be available for ARM-based systems."
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The Three Flavors of Windows 8

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  • RT Aplenty (Score:5, Funny)

    by aurashift (2037038) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @10:20AM (#39710037)
    Growing up "RT" was code for "Rock Tit" A.K.A. Stiff Nipples. Although I can't say that the RT name choice gives me any...
  • From the article: "All editions of Windows 8 offer a no-compromise experience." But from previous articles, we know that Windows RT (formerly Windows on ARM) is licensed under terms that prohibit the manufacturer from allowing a dual boot [slashdot.org] with Android, Ubuntu, *BSD, or any other operating system. So the closest thing to a no-compromise Windows tablet would probably have to be an Atom tablet.
  • by vlm (69642) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @10:21AM (#39710055)

    Does the fourth flavor, torrent, have pro + the media addon "slipstreamed" in or what?

    I'm not about to actually use anything other than XP at home or work anytime soon, but its interesting to know about.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @10:22AM (#39710073)

    We all know Windows 8 is going to be the next "Terrible Windows".

    Windows 9 is where it is at. If they even survive.

  • by SuperKendall (25149) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @10:25AM (#39710101)

    I just cannot fathom why at this point that Microsoft still does not grasp how important security is.

    Nothing makes this more clear than withholding advanced encryption features or even virtualization from the general consumer version.

    This continued split of versions at this point is just absurd, and confusing to the market. You'd think by now Microsoft would learn to simplify - I guess not. Must be nice being a monopoly that scores of companies have no choice but to ship whatever you put out.

    • by Black Parrot (19622) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @10:37AM (#39710249)

      I just cannot fathom why at this point that Microsoft still does not grasp how important security is.

      Nothing makes this more clear than withholding advanced encryption features or even virtualization from the general consumer version.

      They're in the business of making money, not providing important services.

      This continued split of versions at this point is just absurd, and confusing to the market. You'd think by now Microsoft would learn to simplify - I guess not. Must be nice being a monopoly that scores of companies have no choice but to ship whatever you put out.

      Back in the day, "only one version" was one of their arguments against using Linux.

      • They're in the business of making money, not providing important services.

        Then they should simplify since Apple shows it does a better job of making money.

        Back in the day, "only one version" was one of their arguments against using Linux.

        The thing is, there doesn't have to be "just one version" I have nothing against the separate media pack for instance... it's just the separate shipping versions that scream out the inability to focus on anything.

    • by samkass (174571) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @11:00AM (#39710537) Homepage Journal

      Must be nice being a monopoly that scores of companies have no choice but to ship whatever you put out.

      It's no coincidence that most businesses are still on XP/Server2003. I do not look forward to the day our firm "upgrades". Microsoft's only competitor is their past selves, and they often still can't compete; the only way they know to upgrade you is to eliminate support contracts for older versions of Windows, not provide any additional value. Paying money without getting value is a big suck for the economy...

      • by ajlisows (768780)

        We are about halfway between XP/Server2003 and Win7/Server2008 R2. I get pretty bummed out every time I have to deal with the XP/Server 2003 boxes. I can say a lot of bad stuff about Microsoft, but their current operating systems are pretty darn good.

    • by RivenAleem (1590553) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @11:00AM (#39710539)

      I know, it's crazy. What you really want is some sort of Open Source operating system that's modular, whereby you can put together the parts you want.

      Or if that's a little too complicated, you could have people who build pre-made packages and distribute them to users based on their needs.

      Pity nothing like that exists.

    • by Chryana (708485) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @11:26AM (#39710813)

      Either you're trolling or you are vastly overestimating the general public computer abilities. Do you really expect Joe six-pack to setup a virtual machine to run his browser in? Even if he has a knowledgeable friend who sets this up for him, now try to explain to him why he can't apply a wallpaper he downloads or install a game without copying it from the virtual machine to is computer (which, by the way, defeats to large extent the usefulness of the virtual machine in the first place)? As for encryption, I'm not really sure of how it protects a computer from viruses and random malware, but I do know that it makes it much more difficult to recover data in case of hardware failure, sometimes impossible if the encryption depended on some certificate which had to be backed up (which wasn't done, because the user didn't know about it). You can argue that Microsoft should offer a simpler line of products, but I don't think those features are particularly useful in regards to security for the general public.

    • by Locutus (9039)
      because Microsoft has been trying for a couple of decades to establish a Windows based computer as an appliance. An appliance for home users, an appliance for gamers, an appliance for business users, etc. Even though the hardware across all the models is capable of most, if not all, of the features of the other appliance versions of Windows software.

      It is only a fraction of the public, the geeks, which understands that the hardware is capable of all these things and it is Microsoft's artificial limitations
  • x86 (Score:4, Insightful)

    by SJHillman (1966756) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @10:25AM (#39710103)

    The early rumors were that Windows 8 would be x64 only (like Server 2008 R2). From an end-user-with-a-lot-of-32bit-apps perspective, I'm glad to see they're supporting x86. From a sys-admin-who-hates-having-two-architectures-per-print-driver perspective, I can't wait until x86 is dropped altogether.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @10:25AM (#39710105)
    I've been working with Win8 at Intel where I test graphics card drivers. Of all the Windows versions I've ever used (all the way back to v3.1) Windows 8 is the most retarded version I've ever seen! Not only does it hide even more from the user, treating you like you're some mentally-challenged child that has to be kept from hurting yourself, but flat-out stupid things like Safe Mode access being disabled by default! "System Restore" or "System Repair" should NOT be the only option you have when something goes wrong! Yes, you can enable it, but you have to jump through some hoops to do it! Speaking of hoops, you have to jump through a few of those just to get to what in previous versions of Windows were basic system resources, like the Control Panel, My Computer, etc.. Seriously, it's like it's designed for idiot children. At least with Windows 7, I can turn off all the bullshit and make it a functional operating system, but Windows 8, by design, won't let you do enough of that to satisfy me. Is this what computing is coming down to? I may switch everything over to Linux yet.
    • Damn, you're giving me flashbacks to Ubuntu Unity! It couldn't possibly be *that* bad!
    • by ifrag (984323)

      but flat-out stupid things like Safe Mode access being disabled by default! "System Restore" or "System Repair" should NOT be the only option you have when something goes wrong!

      I am anxiously awaiting stories about Windows 8 tablets crashing and what users do with the device at that point. I'll be ROFLMAO If it's just permanently bricked (no install media for WinRT according to the blog).

    • by Nolas (942934) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @12:51PM (#39712013)

      ... Speaking of hoops, you have to jump through a few of those just to get to what in previous versions of Windows were basic system resources, like the Control Panel, My Computer, etc.. Seriously, it's like it's designed for idiot children...

      you can access control panel in windows 8 faster than you ever could in any version of windows. Move mouse curson to bottom left corner, and instead of left clicking, RIGHT CLICK. You will be treated to a nice context menu, of witch one of the many option is "control panel". Also the my computer icon has been replaced with the new windows explorer icon. If you click the windows explore icon you get the EXACT same window as if you had opened "my computer". You just have to learn to not be a giant man baby about windows changing things around to notice.

  • Oh, lookie! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Alex Belits (437) * on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @10:37AM (#39710245) Homepage

    Microsoft is trying to "appropriate" another established term to create an air of legitimacy of their products and imply capabilities that they do not have.

    RTOS is a common name for a "Real-Time Operating System", systems that are commonly used on ARM, and, as their name implies, have real-time capabilities that Windows, of any flavor, never had and likely never will. Please note that "RT" was used for this purpose since at least 1973 (RT-11 operating system by DEC).

    Let's look back to Microsoft previous efforts on this path. Many years ago they pulled out of nowhere the "Digital Nervous System" advertising slogan, apparently for no purpose other than to create confusion with DNS, Domain Name System. More recently, again, out of nowhere they called one of the descendants of their unholy marriage of OLE and DDE, ".NET", what would be a really stupid name if it wasn't a standard top-leven domain, and sounded somehow related to ".com", a typical term for an Internet-based business. On top of this, Microsoft was extremely persistent in inventing trademarked terms that sound generic -- "Windows", "Word" are actual trademarks, and "MS SQL Server" is constantly mentioned as "SQL Server", even though the former is a Microsoft trademark and the latter is a generic name for a database server using SQL language that covers dozens of Microsoft competitors.

    How about a lawsuit from all RTOS developers (including at least two flavors of Linux-based ones)?

  • Four versions (Score:5, Informative)

    by SirDice (1548907) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @10:38AM (#39710263)
    For some reason a lot of sites seem to miss it. There are four versions, Windows 8, Windows 8 Pro, Windows 8 Enterprise and Windows RT. http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2012/04/16/announcing-the-windows-8-editions.aspx [windowsteamblog.com]
  • by Quiet_Desperation (858215) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @10:44AM (#39710343)

    After installation, a glowing hologram of Clippy appears and gives the user three choices.

    Red flavor - Destruction. Win8 destroys itself to revert back to the previously installed OS. Network port is permanently disabled.
    Blue flavor - Control. Keeps Win8 installed, but presents only a command line interface. Network port is permanently disabled.
    Green flavor - Synthesis. Keeps Metro UI as a fancy DOS shell. Network port is permanently disabled.

  • by jbwolfe (241413) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @11:16AM (#39710723) Homepage
    ...one that puts the start button back in place. So far, Ive seen nothing to drag me away from the current version. Windows 8 feels dumbed down- do I really need the metro interface on a desktop? If not give me a start button.
  • by JakFrost (139885) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @12:41PM (#39711889)

    Microsoft is finally warming up to the the Linux Kernel release version branch split system in terms of purpose and usability.

    Windows XP = Stable
    Windows Vista = Development/Experimental
    Windows 7 = Stable
    Windows 8 = Development/Experimental

  • by roc97007 (608802) on Tuesday April 17, 2012 @01:23PM (#39712453) Journal

    ...because that's a feature everyone has been clamoring for. I can't count the times I've thought to myself "Darn it, I wish I could switch to Berber on the fly".

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