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BART Defends Mobile Service Shutdown 149

itwbennett writes "In a filing to the FCC, Bay Area Rapid Transit general manager Grace Crunican defended last August's mobile shutdown, saying that 'a temporary disruption of cell phone service, under extreme circumstances where harm and destruction are imminent, is a necessary tool to protect passengers.' Taking the opposing position, digital rights groups, including Public Knowledge, Free Press, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the Center for Democracy and Technology, told the FCC (PDF) that 'wireless interruption will necessarily prohibit the communications of completely innocent parties — precisely those parties closest to the site where the emergency is located or anticipated.'"
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BART Defends Mobile Service Shutdown

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 01, 2012 @11:42PM (#39864663)

    I don't know what the difference is. There is shitty, background service through about the Montgomery station, with blackout points down below the City (don't do that ride much), and MacArthur through Berkeley is a blackout. I know, bitching about spotty service, etc. but try to get anything done on the train. I just read and don't even bother.

  • Re:Illegal... (Score:3, Informative)

    by icebike ( 68054 ) * on Wednesday May 02, 2012 @12:11AM (#39864833)

    That action by BART was illegal, plain and simple. I can't wait to hear the amount of the fine they receive!

    Apparently its illegal to jam cell phone transmitters, but not technically illegal to unplug them.
    Its entirely possible the FCC will find itself powerless in this fight, because there is no mandatory "must operate" regulations in place.

    It may come down to who actually owns the cell/wifi transmitters in the underground stations where commercial services can't reach without the transit authority's assistance. It may end up being similar to cutting off the water to a coffee vendor in the stations - purely a contract dispute.

    If you are going to rush in and pronounce something "illegal, plain and simple" please provide your credentials, and what year you were appointed to the bench.

  • by ColdWetDog ( 752185 ) on Wednesday May 02, 2012 @12:20AM (#39864863) Homepage

    OMG! Think of the Medical Devices!

    Give me a break. There are NO, repeat NO medical devices that require constant wireless communication with anything. Otherwise, people would simply keel over in the various Faraday cages that we surround ourselves with throughout the day.

  • by Gription ( 1006467 ) on Wednesday May 02, 2012 @07:35AM (#39866295)

    . . .

    Honestly, transit (air and subway) is one of the few places you could get some peace and quiet.

    . . .

    You've never been on BART have you?
    BART is the loudest subway I've ever seen and goes over 100 decibels repeatedly.
    After riding on quality systems in other places such as Munich I find that BART is just a technical embarrassment.

    As far as turning off the cell data coverage... BART consistently has the worst station announcements and the worst station signage. Without the data coverage the only way I can figure out which station I'm at half the time is to get the station map up on the cell and count stops from an identifiable station. I'm really at a loss how a system that big isn't internally audited for simple things like clarity and volume of station announcements. And the lack of clear, obvious, unmistakable station signage is just stupid negligence or apathy on the management's part. 5 minutes on the S-Bahn in Munich will show you how worse then just "Bad" BART is.

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