More Plans For UK Internet Snooping Bill Revealed In Queen's Speech 114
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TheGift73 writes "By far the most controversial bill discussed in the Queen's speech today has to be the 'Draft Communications Bill' which '...will allow the police and intelligence agencies to collect data on communications, like texts and emails, flexible to changes in technology, such as the Internet. This will apply UK wide.' The Queen's Speech has set out the government's legislative plans for the next year."
El Reg has the skinny on the CCDP related parts. From their article: "It's unclear if those 'strict safeguards' mean that a warrant, for example, would be needed before spooks could access such data. The rough proposal appeared to only fuzzily indicate that such protection for British citizens would be provided, however."
Re:Jolly good. (Score:5, Interesting)
Well...
She has a weekly audience with the prime minister, and it's not known what's said behind those closed doors.
So, if you want to believe she keeps her role separate from politics, then there's no evidence to contradict that view.
But also, if you want to believe she takes a keen interest, and nudges the government to do what she wants, there's no evidence to contradict that either.
It is true that if a government gave her a speech she really didn't agree with, she'd be obliged by convention to read it -- or spark a constitutional crisis.
This will all become more interesting when Charles becomes king, since he's much more forthcoming about his own political views.
Free speech? (Score:5, Interesting)
Ironically a couple of sentences earlier in The Queen's Speech, she read the sentence that "The government will protect freedom of speech." How can you do that when you're spying on people, and wanting to know what they say at all times? Never accept the line they are pushing that, oh, we'll only log the from, to and date/time headers. They will store the entire email, storage is dirt cheap and cost is irrelevant when you can rely on the taxpayer to throw unlimited money at pet projects.
Earlier today politicians said that tired out line "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." I didn't hear them say that when they were using the courts to stop their crooked expenses claims from becoming public knowledge.
The facts are simple, the state is VERY afraid of the free exchange of ideas, and are doing whatever it takes to stop people from doing something like kicking corrupt politicians out of office, or holding corrupt companies to account.
Re:How's that supposed to work? (Score:5, Interesting)
If the
Burgled? Here's an incident number for the insurance claim. Go away and stop trying to make us work. We don't have the resources to follow this up.
Assulted? Try to match one of these well dressed, smiling prettily, gentle looking men in these pictures to the snarling, pissed up lout that bottled you in the pub two weeks ago without being able to see the CCTV of the incident. Go away and stop trying to make us work. We don't have the resources to follow this up.
Your car was TWOC'd? Here's an incident number for the insurance claim. Go away and stop trying to make us work. We don't have the resources to follow this up.
Oh they put a few quid into "terrorism" but only because that in itself creates an air of terror in the public. Justifying more money being diverted to scanners, cyber squads and legislation like this which benefits a few well dressed guys with big computer dreams who know that selling IT to people who don't get it, especially in the
See NHS, schools, waste disposal, speed calming, CCTV, missile defence and a multitude of other election claims for more evidence.
Screw you Westminster; you take our tax with promises of making everyone's life better, then give it to your friends. Blue, Yellow or Red, you're all lying thieves.