After Launch Day: Taking Stock of IPv6 Adoption 244
darthcamaro writes "So how did World IPv6 Launch go? Surprisingly well, according to participants at the event. Google said it has seen 150% growth in IPv6 traffic, Facebook now has 27 million IPv6 users and Akamai is serving 100x more IPv6 traffic. But it's still a 'brocolli' technology. 'I've said in the past that IPv6 is a 'broccoli' technology,' Leslie Daigle, CTO of the Internet Society said. 'I still think it is a tech everybody knows it would be good if we ate more of it but nobody wants to eat it without the cheese sauce.'" Reader SmartAboutThings adds a few data points: "According to Google statistics, Romania leads the way with a 6.55% adoption rate, followed by France with 4.67%. Japan is on the third place so far with 1.57% but it seems here 'users still experience significant reliability or latency issues connecting to IPv6-enabled websites.' In the U.S. and China the users have noticed infrequent issues connecting to the new protocol, but still the adoption rate is 0.93% and 0.58%, respectively."
nat routers... (Score:3, Interesting)
How many ipv4 nat routers are out there? How many of the big ISP's turned it on (or will by 'end of the year')?
Take my ISP for example (a pretty big one). They are just talking about turning it on this year 'by the end of the year' (which is marketing speak for next year).
Then how many consumer grade routers out there can you buy that are still only ipv4 (a lot btw). You have to go out of your way to get something with IPv6 you need to know exactly which router to get. You even had one decent sized manufacture yank the feature out for all intents and purposes so be careful which firmware you are running... Sure you can flash the firmware on many to get it. But what a pain. I dont feel like playing root my wireless access point to get a feature which should ALREADY be included... In 2005 this was understandable. In 2012 not so much anymore...
Then we can talk about the devices themselves. There are thousands of embedded devices out there sold within the past 2 years that ONLY do IPv4. TV's being the worst of the offenders... Bought a network enabled bluray a couple of months ago. IPv4 only... And both of these devices are from major manufactures...
the tl;dr ver 'it will take time not enough devices that support it yet'.
Re:Privacy Concerns (Score:5, Interesting)
I've never understood this concern. With IPv6 I have, say, 2^64 addresses to use. I could use a different source IP address for each and every HTTP request I send out. Even at 1000 requests a second we'll all be long dead before you had to reuse a source address.
IPv6 gives you loads of room to hide. This is my concern - address based blocklists will quickly become infeasible.
China??? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:IPV6 is BROCCOLI!? (Score:4, Interesting)
Fat with your vegetables improves their nutritional content (fat soluble nutrients don't get absorbed without them).
This is an interesting claim. Do you have a reference for it? I'm imagining people being fed broccoli with and without fat, and then serum concentrations of vitamins being tested shortly after. Would be an interesting experiment.
Re:Privacy Concerns (Score:5, Interesting)
I've never understood this concern.
Me either.
IPv6 gives you loads of room to hide. This is my concern - address based blocklists will quickly become infeasible
It it won't be that much different with v6 and a slight change in mindset. Instead ofblocking an IP you go after the prefix instead.
For example an ISP customer is abusing my service and I want to block him. I don't go after his IPv6 IP I go after his entire /64, /48 prefix or whatever it is his ISP allocated to him. He can change his local bits all he wants he is still blocked.
There are other examples where it is difficult such as blocking some computers on the same /64 segment as others you want to allow however when we look at this problem today all we see most of the time is a NAT for the whole network with a single IP.
The address space is bigger and there is more room to hide yet allocation is still hierarchical and we still know what blocks are allocated to who via SWIP or working an ISPs abuse channels.
Re:I Tried Anyway... (Score:4, Interesting)
When I last worked in the ISP business, or more specifically for an open citynet which handled last-mile access for a number of ISPs, we would get the occasional request about IPv6, both from regular customers who couldn't get a clear answer from their ISP and from the ISPs using "our" network. From the number of requests and the tone of the requests from the ISPs there was clearly customer demand for IPv6.
After a very long time of us forwarding all of these requests to upper management the reply finally came through. The official stance of the citynet was that there had been no noticeable demand for IPv6 and thus there were currently no plans to make the network IPv6-capable. This was told to all tech support and customer service staff as well, any requests from ISPs (or customers calling us directly) was to be answered with some version of "well as far as I know you're the first to ask and we currently don't have any plans to make our network IPv6-capable in the foreseeable future.".
Yup, upper management thought the investment would be too big so they "decided" that there was no demand and ordered everyone else to play along with their little fantasy.
What about /.? (Score:5, Interesting)
Why isn't slashdot accessible over IPv6?