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PC Sales Are Flat-Lining 485

DavidGilbert99 writes "Gartner has released figures showing that PC shipments globally declined 0.1 percent in the last three months, making it the seventh consecutive month of little-to-no growth in the PC market. This was despite the launch a number of new Ultrabooks, the much-vaunted slim-and-light platform promoted by Intel. The decline has been put down to the poor economic situation around the globe, increased spending on tablets and smartphones instead of PCs as well as the imminent launch of Windows 8, making people hold out on updating their PCs."
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PC Sales Are Flat-Lining

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  • Well... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by gabereiser ( 1662967 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @01:42PM (#40629939)
    If they would make pc's that I would actually buy, this wouldn't happen. "Ultra-books" are not sleek looking, nor thin (in most cases). They don't hold a candle to the Macbook Air despite a lot of windows users wanting something that does. The PC Market is flat-lining because there really isn't much innovation happening on the pc hardware front-end... I still have a brick of a desktop, a brick of a laptop, and no one seems to care that Apple is killing PC makers with their sleek looking macbook pro's and their fresh hardware... Gimme a Laptop Air that runs Windows or hell, Linux, and I'll buy it in a heartbeat...
  • by Drethon ( 1445051 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @01:42PM (#40629957)
    Honestly though, I bought an I7 desktop almost two years ago with 12Gb of memory and a pretty good graphics card. I haven't found any reason why that PC isn't still fast enough for about for of anything I use it for today. This compares to ten years ago when a two year old desktop simply cried with the lowest settings of the newest computer games.
  • Re:Flat-Line (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jmorris42 ( 1458 ) * <jmorris&beau,org> on Thursday July 12, 2012 @03:47PM (#40631341)

    Nah, he used it in the modern corporate sense. If sales aren't going up, Up, UP every quarter then they might as well be dead. Smaller players will begin to pull out, big players will see their share prices tank, etc. Tech companies are structured on the basis of ever growing sales and profits so the idea of a nice stable market would be death to them and they probably won't have time to restructure.

    Longer term, sales will probably go down. For a long time millions and millions of people who had no business buying a PC were buying them because of the Windows monopoly, to get access to basic things like email, word processing and basic web/media consumption. Those users are going to finally go away and stop demanding that the PC be turned into what they wanted all along, a simple device without confusing options, flexibility or programability.

    But people who always needed the power of a PC will continue needing one so they aren't going to go away.

  • by snowraver1 ( 1052510 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @03:49PM (#40631375)
    I built my computer 3 years ago for $400 + scavanged parts. It dual core 4 gb of ram win7. I have no plans on upgrading.
  • windows 8 (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @03:53PM (#40631419)

    Many consumers thinking of upgrading will no doubt be holding out until October when Windows 8 is launched, before upgrading their PCs. This obviously means that the Q3 results are likely to be similarly flat, though Ultrabooks, the second generation Ivy Bridge versions of which are being launched at the moment, could have more of an impact by then.

    Read more: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/362375/20120712/pc-shipments-fall-ultrabook-flat-hp-lenovo.htm#ixzz20RKdxqyA [ibtimes.co.uk]

    WOW I thing it's better to buy windows 7 now.

  • by rockout ( 1039072 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @03:59PM (#40631501)
    I don't think they're buying either. My wife had a laptop just to keep her from using my desktop. Once that became outdated, I got her an iPad, and she loves it. Email, websurfing, and a few games, and she's happy. Just no need for a PC. We can't be the only ones that replaced one of the full-featured PCs in the house with an iPad, or something similar.
  • Re:Well... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by pubwvj ( 1045960 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @04:13PM (#40631659)

    "Gimme a Laptop Air that runs Windows or hell, Linux, and I'll buy it in a heartbeat..."

    It's called a Macintosh and any of them run Windows or Linux if you really want to downgrade to that. I'll stick to MacOSX.

    As to sales, Apple is increasing market share while the others are flatlining. Why? Quality. I buy a Mac and it lasts a decade or more. We have 1999 Macs in our family that are still running fine. We just pass them down the line.

  • Admittedly anecdotal (Score:5, Interesting)

    by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @04:18PM (#40631711)

    I don't know of anyone that's holding out on updating their computers because of Windows 8. Heck, I hardly know anyone that cares at all about Windows 8.

    I do know several people who, over the last year or so, decided to buy an iPad to replace their aging computer rather than buy a new computer.

    As others have noted, there are a lot of people that own computers but really have no need of one.

  • by thetoadwarrior ( 1268702 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @04:53PM (#40632081) Homepage
    I'm on a 6 year old thinkpad and I did just that. The 256gb SSD I put it in makes it feel just like a brand new laptop. It won't play the latest Crytek game but for everything else it does an amazing job.
  • Re:Flat-Line (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Patch86 ( 1465427 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @04:53PM (#40632087)

    And "Desktop" systems seem to be receeding back into the niches that need them... business, developers, gamers, power-users. Casual users will basically abandon them (and already largely have) for laptops, tablets, and portables.

    Desktops aren't receding at all. Casual users aren't abandoning them. Didn't you read TFA? (I know, I know).

    Sales have stopped growing. They've shrunk by 0.1%, but then we are in the middle of the longest and deepest global economic crash since the Second World War, so don't read too deeply into that. Tablet sales have sky-rocketed, but desktop sales haven't been touched.

    PCs have had colossal growth over the last decade- that's partly because there were literally billions of potential users who didn't have one yet. Now that boom has finished, we're into a "steady market" phase- where people already have computers, and only buy replacements as needed. And even that is cooling off, as computers don't improve as drastically year-on-year any more- it used to be that a computer was obsolete 2 years after you bought it, now there are machines from 2007 which are still perfectly useful and usable.

    That's going to hurt the forecasts of the Dells and HPs of this world- but it's not a judgement on the desktop/laptop form factor itself. That's here to stay.

  • Re:Flat-Line (Score:2, Interesting)

    by AK Marc ( 707885 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @04:57PM (#40632121)
    Don't forget, a $500 monitor from today is larger, but with worse resolution, than your 2007 benchmark. The explosion of HDTV has regressed monitor resolution, even as the screens grow. I want to go back in time to when 19" LCDs at 1600x1200 was "standard" and at 21" and larger, you got more.
  • by JDG1980 ( 2438906 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @07:53PM (#40633827)

    Yes, a lot of casual users are going to conclude (or already have) that a full-fledged PC is more than they need or can safely handle, and that a tablet makes a better computing platform. For Grandma who only surfs the web and checks her family's Facebook pages, a tablet is a better choice: more intuitive, good enough for the tasks at hand, less likely to catch a worm or virus. It's for more complicated tasks that a PC is required. (My mother, for example, does most of her web-related stuff on the iPad, but she still needs to use a PC to get photos off the camera, edit them, and post listings on eBay – the iPad apps are grossly insufficient for this task.)

    But one thing a lot of people are forgetting in their haste to announce a "post-PC era" is the HUGE installed base of existing systems. Up until about 2006, the PC market was still evolving fast enough that users had to upgrade on a fairly regular basis. An average 2001 PC would be pretty bad at running 2006-vintage applications. But for most home and office users, PCs from the Core 2 Duo era onward have been good enough. They can do all the usual stuff (surfing, email, videos, Office, WoW and other simple games) without too much trouble, and multitask reasonably well since they are multi-core. Given that economic times haven't been that great recently, why would home or business users want to switch out perfectly good hardware that still does what they need? This in no way means that the PCs are going away, just that their upgrade cycle has substantially slowed.

    I do think that the utter low-end of the PC market – the $300 shitboxes formerly epitomized by such stellar brands as Packard Bell and eMachines – is going to go away. And good riddance. Those users will mostly be better off with tablets. But high-end desktops, gaming PCs, and workstations are here to stay.

    It's worth remembering that most of what people here on Slashdot usually actually buy is already niche hardware to some extent. Full ATX motherboards are a niche product. Intel K-series CPUs are a niche product. Discrete graphics cards are a niche product. But despite their low-volume status, we can still get this stuff at fairly reasonable prices. The only exception is the top-end flagships, which are substantially overpriced to lure people with more money than common sense.

  • Cherrypicking data (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Swampash ( 1131503 ) on Thursday July 12, 2012 @09:37PM (#40634609)

    I guess the PC industry can be made to look bad... if you deliberately omit all references to Apple.

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