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Aussie Network Engineers Form Members-Only ISP 66

schliz writes "A group of Australian network engineers is planning to launch a not-for-profit internet service provider that will provide access to the nation's high-speed NBN fibre network for like-minded people. The cooperative, dubbed 'No ISP,' has no staff or add-on services to keep costs down. Members will be able to 'trade' excess download quota for a market-based price, depending on supply and demand."
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Aussie Network Engineers Form Members-Only ISP

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  • by David Gerard ( 12369 ) <slashdot.davidgerard@co@uk> on Saturday July 21, 2012 @04:35AM (#40722143) Homepage

    APANA [apana.org.au] part two?

  • Re:What? (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 21, 2012 @05:14AM (#40722251)

    Except you're actually getting what you pay for. They plan to buy a terabyte of bandwidth wholesale for each user, unlike traditional ISPs, which typically use traffic modeling to oversell their infrastructure. With the new model, if you're under your cap and I'm over my cap, I can buy the extra from you at cost, and keep getting full speed service instead of getting capped at 1MBps.

  • by sortius_nod ( 1080919 ) on Saturday July 21, 2012 @06:21AM (#40722453) Homepage

    Because I can see you live under a rock: http://nbnco.com.au/ [nbnco.com.au]

    Most people will have 1Gbps capable fibre in Australia. The rest get fixed wireless (LTE), & very remote areas get satellite, all for the same wholesale price.

    It's actually cheaper to run FTTH these days with the polymer cables (what the NBN is using) than to run FTTN networks that rely on crumbling copper.

  • FDN (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday July 21, 2012 @07:07AM (#40722567)

    In France, the oldest provider still in activity (FDN = French Data Network) is an non-profit association (and now an association of association). FDN was created in 1992. Maybe they can learn a lot from this long experience in assiociative service providing and they can probably collaborate to have something like a cross-borders ISP.

    http://www.fdn.fr/
    http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/FDN

  • by the_raptor ( 652941 ) on Saturday July 21, 2012 @09:18AM (#40723067)

    >There is little excuse for it

    Yeah there is, most traffic is to American sites and we have a limited international cable infrastructure which mostly relies on 2nd and 3rd parties in the link. On my last ISP I had connection problems on occasion because either SingTel or the US ISP at the landing in America would fuck with some settings. With the NBN I believe most of the international links and peering will be handled by NBNCo which should have more bargaining power then the small ISP's currently do (the big ISP's in Australia generally prefer fucking customers over).

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