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30 Days Is Too Long: Animated Rant About Windows 8 1110

Posted by timothy
from the devil's-advocate dept.
First time accepted submitter Funksaw writes "Back in 2007, I wrote three articles on Ubuntu 6, Mac OS X 10.4, and Windows Vista, which were all featured on Slashdot. Now, with the release of Windows 8, I took a different tactic and produced an animated video. Those expecting me to bust out the performance tests and in-depth use of the OS are going to be disappointed. While that was my intention coming into the project, I couldn't even use Windows 8 long enough to get to the in-depth technical tests. In my opinion, Windows 8 is so horribly broken that it should be recalled."
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30 Days Is Too Long: Animated Rant About Windows 8

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  • Re:Not again... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 20, 2012 @07:41PM (#42353863)

    Yeah, the author's attitude is more than a little arrogant. You expect reasonable people to give your video a chance after speaking like that?

    Yes I have used Windows 8, and while I am one of the hoards who loves the old start menu, apart from that change Win 8 is simply better. 7 was excellent, 8 has a few improvements over that.

  • Re:Not again... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 20, 2012 @07:51PM (#42353983)

    It's getting old. This shill account might be pretty old (879048), yet just check the posting history. Not a single post not related to Microsoft.

  • by geekoid (135745) <dadinportland@yBLUEahoo.com minus berry> on Thursday December 20, 2012 @08:08PM (#42354119) Homepage Journal

    Ribbon are incredibly intuitive. I see non computer people understand them immediately.
    People who can't think beyond what is staring them in the face may have some issues.

  • Re:Not again... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by cbiltcliffe (186293) on Thursday December 20, 2012 @08:10PM (#42354141) Homepage Journal

    So removing windowing, and requiring all programs to be full screen, so only able to run one program at a time, is an improvement to you?
    This is Windows 1.01 level technology, not an improvement on Windows 7.

  • I felt stupid... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by benjfowler (239527) on Thursday December 20, 2012 @08:19PM (#42354223)

    Just out of interest, I walked into a PC World store to check out the new touch-screen PCs running Windows 8.

    I timed myself: I was sitting there trying to work out how to do the gesture to get the Start screen. 90 seconds later, I simply gave up.

    Windows 8, even on high-spec hardware with multitouch displays is completely unintuitive, completely undiscoverable, clunky, and amateur-looking.

    I am GOBSMACKED, that Microsoft claimed that they've put a million user-hours into usability testing.

    It'll snow in Hell before I put my hand in my pocket to upgrade.

  • by tepples (727027) <tepples&gmail,com> on Thursday December 20, 2012 @08:21PM (#42354257) Homepage Journal

    treat the Start screen like a full-screen version of the Start menu

    And because it's full-screen, it all but encourages the user to forget what he's working on. Ever have amnesia as you go through a doorway [scientificamerican.com]? The fact that the Start screen is full-screen is like that.

    You don't need a Start orb to click on -- just hit the Windows key.

    How are users who have been opening the Start menu with the mouse for a decade and a half expected to discover the Windows key?

  • Re:Not again... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by pudding7 (584715) on Thursday December 20, 2012 @08:40PM (#42354465)
    So you're ignoring half the OS, and you've installed a 3rd party application to make the part you aren't ignoring actually usable?
  • Re:Not again... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Nerdfest (867930) on Thursday December 20, 2012 @08:52PM (#42354585)

    I think you'll find that over the next couple of versions, that the 'classic' interface disappears or has reduced functionality. Anyone think this is not gong to happen? Apple set the precedent, now Microsoft is going to try cashing in on the same lock-in. Buying or using Windows 8 is funding the loss of your ability to actually 'own' your own hardware, same as iOS.

  • by DrGamez (1134281) on Thursday December 20, 2012 @08:58PM (#42354661)
    There is no discoverability within Windows 8, it's the worst aspect about it. A note on the Metro apps: you aren't "supposed" to close them, and in the early DP versions there wasn't a way to close them at all. They have their own memory-management/PLM processes, and when they haven't been used for a set time - they Suspend and close in the background.
  • by tepples (727027) <tepples&gmail,com> on Thursday December 20, 2012 @09:21PM (#42354867) Homepage Journal

    They could try looking at their keyboards for starters.

    First, if they forgot the OOBE tutorial video (or never watched it in the first place because they're using someone else's account for a short time), how would they know to look at the keyboard, as opposed to exhaustively scanning the screen and then giving up? Second, how would they associate "picture of a flag" with the Start screen? Third, I've known gamers to pry off their Windows keys or buy Windows key-less keyboards because accidentally pressing the Windows key while reaching for Ctrl or Alt or Z during a full-screen game makes certain games fail.

  • by bdwoolman (561635) on Thursday December 20, 2012 @09:54PM (#42355167) Homepage

    Sooner or later I am going to walk in somewhere and have to use Windows 8 to get something done. Sooner rather than later. Currently, there is no major OS that I could not be modestly productive on in a few minutes. However, the video rant gave me pause with respect to this new iteration of Windows. Also the video was actually instructive in a backassward sort of way. Note to self: Careful with the touchpad. Or disable the swipe feature. Use Windows key to see applications Etc...

    So now I am going to take advantage of the price-of-a good-dinner introductory cost and put Windows 8 on an old Vista laptop I have in order to do a solid familiarization. Perhaps I will be pleasantly surprised. And ... Forewarned is forearmed. I might even RTFM. A little.

    This appears to be a matter of self preservation because in my experience there seems to be some stuff that has a learning curve for dweeb types, but not for three-year olds. I remember the terrible experience I had with iTunes the first time I used this "easy-to-use" application. (And a lot of people do find it easy to use.) At the time (about four years ago) I had had an MP3 player of one sort or another (not Apple) since 1999 (Creative Nomad was my first). Someone gave me an iPod Shuffle she wasn't using. So, and for the very first time, I downloaded Apple's music utility onto my PC and attempted to use it to put mp3 files on the Shuffle in the straightforward way I was used to. All my other players worked like flash drives if I wanted. It took me far too many frustrating minutes (and a dash to the dreaded help files) to realize that Apple's resource was padding my experience and preventing me from using the equipment in the manner I wanted and which made sense. Nanny Apple: "First we make a playlist... etc". Sometimes resources are so dumbed down and bullet proofed that people who have a feeling for how computers work get limited, confounded and frustrated. Seems like this poor guy repeated my brief iTunes nightmare with Windows 8 -- on steroids. And since I have had similar experiences with easy-to-use stuff I better get familiar with 8 since it might not be a cake walk should I walk into it cold.

    So, as I said, A reverse effect. Now, instead of being put off by the negative review, I heave a heavy sigh and download this thing. This because sooner or later I'll have to deal with Windows 8. Good, bad or indifferent. Feh!

  • Re:Not again... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by pixelpusher220 (529617) on Thursday December 20, 2012 @09:58PM (#42355209)
    Yes it does. It's the 'metro' interface which has exactly ONE app on screen at any one time (apparently random times too!).

    When people say, it's a good app, I use the Desktop...they're saying that Win8 isn't good and Win7, which is what the Desktop basically is, is what they prefer to use.

    Video's point stands. the WIN 8 interface SUCKS for PCs.
  • by JBMcB (73720) on Thursday December 20, 2012 @10:35PM (#42355533)

    The ribbon UI is so awesome, that Visual Studio doesn't have it (thank God) So the people who actually *write Microsoft software* don't like the ribbon.

    So there's that.

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