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from the if-you-come-at-the-king-you-best-not-miss dept.
SternisheFan tips a report at the NY Times about the progress Google is making in its quest to unseat Microsoft's position atop the business software industry. From the article: It has taken years, but Google seems to be cutting into Microsoft's stronghold — businesses. ... In the last year Google has scored an impressive string of wins, including at the Swiss drug maker Hoffmann-La Roche, where over 80,000 employees use the package, and at the Interior Department, where 90,000 use it. One big reason is price. Google charges $50 a year for each person using its product, a price that has not changed since it made its commercial debut, even though Google has added features. In 2012, for example, Google added the ability to work on a computer not connected to the Internet, as well as security and data management that comply with more stringent European standards. That made it much easier to sell the product to multinationals and companies in Europe. ... Microsoft says it does not yet see a threat. Google 'has not yet shown they are truly serious,' said Julia White, a general manager in Microsoft’s business division. 'From the outside, they are an advertising company.'"
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Google Challenging Microsoft For Business Software

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  • Re:Awful Summary (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @07:02AM (#42393429)

    Which package?

    Google Apps. It's in the second sentence of the article.

    Really? This is a Google invention?

    How do you get a claim of invention? they've simply added it to their product.

    Context is everything. Simply snipping an article excerpt, without correct context, is poor editorial work.

    Granted the submitter could have substituted for 'it", but he does say "from the article," which should have given you some indication of where to look. You could have answered your own questions faster than you wrote your complaint. And you even had to resort to a straw man to stretch it all the way out to a whopping two items.

  • by PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @07:35AM (#42393519)

    Google 'has not yet shown they are truly serious,' said Julia White, a general manager in Microsoft’s business division. 'From the outside, they are an advertising company.'

    From: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh506371(v=msads.10).aspx [microsoft.com]

    Microsoft Advertising SDK for Windows 8

    The Microsoft Advertising SDK for Windows 8 allows developers to show ads in their apps. You can use your Windows 8 apps to make money by including ads from Microsoft Advertising. The Microsoft Advertising SDK for Windows 8 along with Microsoft pubCenter enables you to create apps that:

    • Easily integrate text and banner ads into your apps and games.
    • Provide a money making solution that maximizes in-app advertising.
    • Provide ad targeting capabilities to deliver the most relevant ads to your users.
    • Seamlessly handle impression reporting.
    • Monitor your ad performance in real time.
  • by cheesybagel (670288) on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @08:27AM (#42393707)
    Most of the new clients Microsoft has had recently came to it because of SharePoint. Google Apps collaboration features basically kill SharePoint. Yes it also kills Outlook and Exchange.
  • Re:SharePoint (Score:4, Informative)

    by lwriemen (763666) on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @08:47AM (#42393797)

    I've never understood the point of SharePoint. Maybe I've never seen it implemented properly, but I don't see how a company could come up with a valid cost/benefit justification for it. OTOH, marketing promises and the lure of moving all IT to low-cost sites probably makes it very attractive to corporate heads; (often unmeasured) worker productivity be damned.

  • by Taco Cowboy (5327) on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @08:53AM (#42393825) Journal

    ... but rather, walled garden and locked devices

  • by jbolden (176878) on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @10:06AM (#42394163) Homepage

    That's not Outlook, that's an Exchange setting. If you were using Outlook as your gmail client you wouldn't get that either.

  • Re:So...do the math. (Score:4, Informative)

    by CrankyFool (680025) on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @10:22AM (#42394281)

    If you're comparing the cost of GAFYD (Google Apps For Your Domain) to the cost of running Word, Excel, and Powerpoint on your desktop, then either you're doing it wrong, or you wouldn't be well served to switch.

    Where GAFYD kicks Microsoft's ass is in online collaboration (because it's better) and unified messaging (because it's less expensive). So it's not about Word -- it's about Google Talk being better than Microsoft Lync, and about Google Mail and Google Drive being being more cost-effective than Microsoft Exchange and Microsoft Sharepoint.

    Because it turns out it costs a little more than $50/person to run a really great-running Exchange environment. That's not an oxymoron, BTW - I currently work at a company that has a fantastic Exchange environment, best I've ever seen run. And I'm really going to miss it in the upcoming quarter when IT shoves our migration to GAFYD down my throat. And I'm not even a Windows user ...

  • by RazorSharp (1418697) on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @10:48AM (#42394451)

    You should check out how much money Microsoft has spent over the last ten years trying to become an advertising company. They know that between FOSS alternatives and Google that MS Office is doomed and they're looking for a new cash cow. They tried TV (many times in many ways) and failed. They tried video games and, while they managed to break into the market, it's certainly no cash cow like Office is. That's why their current focus is on Bing and cloud services and other services that Google already does better and more successfully -- basically, the statistic you provided just demonstrates how massively MS is failing in their current endeavors. They're still just milking the same old cows that are ready for the slaughterhouse while their grain fields are failing to grow.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @12:24PM (#42395201)

    The other thing about Google Apps is that it's designed for Chrome and if it works on anything else that's nice but they don't care and it's Not Supported. (You can also use Chromium.)

    My company uses google docs, spreadsheets, and presentations on Firefox and IE. We told them our configuration, and we get support. I think you are full of shit.

  • by Rob Y. (110975) on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @12:44PM (#42395413)

    It wasn't just the competitive upgrades. They also struck deals with OEM's so that, for a while at least, it was hard to find a Windows PC that didn't come with MSOffice 'for free'. That was the point where the company I worked for switched from WordPerfect to Word. And people complained for the next 6 months about the lack of WordPerfect's show codes feature. Of course, they eventually got used to Word, but victory didn't come because of quality or desire - it was monopoly bundling deals pure and simple.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @01:23PM (#42395863)

    The article is wrong and misleading. I work for Roche. Posting anon for obvious reasons.

    Roche is replacing Exchange Server with Google mail and calendar and the project hasn't even left the pilot phase. That's it. Everyone will still use MS Outlook although Google will be the new web mail interface. Everyone will still use MS Office. Everyone will still use SharePoint. Everyone will still use Lync for IM. Roche is only changing out the back end for mail and calendar.

    Genentech, which is a company owned by Roche, uses Google for email and calendar and has done so for some years. They make up about 30K people. But as of now nobody else in Roche or it's other companies is using Google for anything except a handful of pilot users.

    There are people in Roche that would like to see us use other Google services like IM, Google drive, Google Apps and that stuff but it's just talk. Nothing has been approved. There aren't any projects in IT moving forward to do any of that. Even if there was it can take years before it reaches production because of the number of validated systems [wikipedia.org] and processes that we have which integrate with MS Office. It would be hard to replace. Hell, we just finished upgrading everybody from XP to Windows 7 and Office 2010 at the end of 2011. We're just now starting to upgrade to SharePoint 2010 from 2003.

    Microsoft isn't going away in Roche anytime soon. Roche is so conservative and slow moving that if we ever move everything to Google we will probably be one of the last companies on earth to do it.

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