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Syria Falls Off the Internet Again 68

Posted by Soulskill
from the going-dark dept.
New submitter briancox2 writes with news that all internet traffic from Syria has disappeared. Umbrella Security Labs explains: "Routing on the Internet relies on the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP). BGP distributes routing information and makes sure all routers on the Internet know how to get to a certain IP address. When an IP range becomes unreachable it will be withdrawn from BGP, this informs routers that the IP range is no longer reachable. For example, one of the name servers for the DNS zone .SY is ns1.tld.sy with IP address 82.137.200.85. Normally our routers would expect a BGP route for 82.137.192.0/18. Currently that route has disappeared and we no longer have a way to reach the nameservers for .SY that reside in Syria. ... Currently there are just three routes in the BGP routing tables for Syria, while normally it’s close to eighty. ... Effectively, the shutdown disconnects Syria from Internet communication with the rest of the world."
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Syria Falls Off the Internet Again

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  • by 14erCleaner (745600) <FourteenerCleaner@yahoo.com> on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @05:53PM (#43658949) Homepage Journal
    ...they use Centurylink.
  • by swschrad (312009) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @05:55PM (#43658969) Homepage Journal

    has the nation Syria also fallen into a black hole? please?

  • by WillgasM (1646719) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @06:01PM (#43659013) Homepage
    Well someone plug it back in! Also, I'm pretty sure you have to use a crossover cable when connecting one Internet to another.
  • Isreal (Score:3, Funny)

    by Synerg1y (2169962) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @06:04PM (#43659047)

    Had absolutely nothing to do with it!

    • Re: (Score:1, Offtopic)

      by sconeu (64226)

      Isimaginary, on the other hand...

      Seriously, guys... LEARN TO SPELL. It's "Israel", not "Isreal".

  • by flayzernax (1060680) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @06:14PM (#43659135)

    Glad to know Umbrella Corp is diversifying. When can I order my clone of Milla?

  • by rmdingler (1955220) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @06:23PM (#43659211)
    When a government attempts to squelch dissent, too often they wind up resorting to suppression of the freedom of speech and access to information. The internet, a luxury to many of us living large 1st-World lives, is the epitome of freedom in the Third World.
    • by Patch86 (1465427)

      To address the question in your title- the 1st/2nd/3rd world thing is a throwback to the Cold War. Traditionally it was defined as 1st World = America, Western Europe, Australasia + Allies, 2nd World = USSR, China, other communist countries + Allies, 3rd World = everyone who isn't 1st or 2nd World, in practice most of Africa, South America and south Asia. The connotation of 3rd World being impoverished is based on the fact that 3rd World meant "not aligned to a super power".

      The whole terminology is largely

  • by cpghost (719344) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @06:30PM (#43659269) Homepage
    It would be interesting to find out how Syria is physically connected to the Internet, and who the operators on both sides actually are.
  • by Anonymous Coward

    This might not have had anything to do with Basar Al Assad (or whatever) and his fight with rebels. It could just be they tried to migrate Syria to Windows 8...

  • by scarboni888 (1122993) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @07:25PM (#43659793)

    If Syria can't make it back to technological civilization can we have their IPV4 address space,then?

  • by Dorianny (1847922) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @07:52PM (#43660071) Journal
    Everyone assumes that this was done deliberately but Syria is in the middle of a civil war and technical problems could be just as likely. I imagine router replacement parts would be hard to come by at the very least.
  • by TheGoodNamesWereGone (1844118) on Tuesday May 07, 2013 @09:08PM (#43660653)
    And nothing of value was lost
  • by Anonymous Coward

    those Dell "PCs" that they bought!!!

  • Seriously, I am curious, would it be possible/feasible to create a more decentralized infrastructure eg. by using (many) wireless transmitters instead of just "one big cable"? I am also wondering the same thing for big cities ... why the heck doesn't my house have an inbuilt network (that is owned by the house owner, not some isp) and is directly connected to its neighbor buildings? I mean, seriously, if enough people do this then it should be possible to route most traffic through that internal network ins
    • by welshie (796807)
      Yes, entirely possible. Routing will be a challenge when dealing with millions of fiddly small route entries. At the moment, the Internet routes at a very high level using BGP. The ISPs then internally know how to route their own customer allocations. Even when the route advertisements are for large allocations the routeing tables get very large indeed. If you start announcing routes for a single /32 (IPv4) to multiple peers or a /64 (IPv6), the amount of memory needed on the routers becomes rather enormous
      • Well, i am not sure about what memory sizes we are talking, but cmon, ram is cheap these days. And the point was rather to have one bigger router "in the basement" for the whole house instead of a shitty one for each flat. Regarding routing you could then group together whole cities or parts of cities which in turn interconnect on that level. Point is, it would be best if there would be 2-3(max) levels of nodes (local - area/city - city/province) and each node has at least 3 connections to other nodes of th
  • This is obviously the work of sharks [google.com] trained by the US government.
  • But would it be possible for the insurgents to take control of the physical network in the areas they control, negotiate and set up new connections to networks in the neighboring countries?

    I guess the telco(s) i Syria have more or less a star topology infrastructure with the hub in or near Damascus, and I guess the international connections use dedicated fibers from the hub to similar hubs in other countries, as well as satellite links and possibly some forms of terrestial point-to-point radio links.

    How har

    • by tekiegreg (674773)
      I wouldn't keep your hopes up for Syrian Freedom of speech no matter who wins. A lot of these rebels have strong islamist (dare I say Taliban-esque) views as well about freedom of speech. The rebels may not have any interest in restoring Internet either.
  • by ThatsNotPudding (1045640) on Wednesday May 08, 2013 @07:33AM (#43663641)
    like The Onion scorned.
  • I am sure this is not connected to Israel's deniable nuclear weapons...
  • There was a problem was cabling in the sea, is that it again???

  • From the article, one of Syria's tld nameservers is unreachable. That shoudln't affect in any way the ability of folks in Syria to access any website that doesn't have a .sy extension, and it also shouldn't affect the rest of the world's ability to access any websites in Syria that have another tld. The headline is misleading.

    This is akin to saying that I've fallen off the Internet if the DNS servers for my domain name are offline. While you can't get to my website, you can certainly get to other webs

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