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Ask Slashdot: How To Deliver a Print Magazine Online, While Avoiding Piracy? 298

An anonymous reader writes "I work for a technical magazine that has been available in print for over 40 years. Moving to providing an alternative subscription available online has been hard; the electronic version is quickly pirated and easily available around the world each month. We are a small company, and our survival depends not only on advertising but on the subscription fees. Do any slashdotters have experience of delivering electronic magazines via a subscription service in a way that is cost effective and secure?"
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Ask Slashdot: How To Deliver a Print Magazine Online, While Avoiding Piracy?

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  • by raftpeople ( 844215 ) on Sunday July 21, 2013 @02:04PM (#44343659)
    Make the advertisements and credits for your web site part of your content in a way that it's too much work to remove so the copied versions retain this stuff. Like watermarks in images, maybe an article delivered as an image with advertising and credits, etc. Then embed tracking links so you can demonstrate to advertisers the total "viewage".
  • Well now (Score:4, Interesting)

    by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Sunday July 21, 2013 @02:04PM (#44343661)

    This should be interesting...

    Is Slashdot REALLY the place you think you'll get the best advice on this topic? I expect you're mostly going to hear from people who expect everything available for free.

    In any case - do you know for sure piracy is causing significant issues for you? Just because something IS available on torrent sites doesn't mean that's where everyone who was a print subscriber is getting it now. I tend to believe a lot of people that download torrented stuff are only doing so because it's available for free - they have zero interest in buying it, and in the old days would never have been one of your print subscribers.

    iTunes manages to sell a lot of music without protecting it at all, for example. Maybe you're thinking about it backwards - rather than focussing on making it hard to get at your content, instead think "how can we deliver this content in a compelling, visually interesting, easy to navigate way? People who were inclined to pay for "print" may very well be inclined to pay for continued access to that expertise, if they feel they're getting their money's worth.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 21, 2013 @02:13PM (#44343737)

    The expert's forum is an excellent idea. I often read the article comments for valuable insights beyond the article.

    This makes me think the best way is to deliver the "magazine" in a continuous flow instead of as a "monthly". On the web, monthly magazines make no sense. Publish an article every few days and link between articles such as part 1 and part 2.

    Who wants to pirate one day at a time? Who wants to have to sort and organize multi-part articles? This increases the labor for the pirates and actually gives you some labor flexibility on producing content.

  • by melikamp ( 631205 ) on Sunday July 21, 2013 @02:16PM (#44343761) Homepage Journal
    Exactly. If the OP wants to be respectful toward the readers, delivering an online magazine is very simple. Remove ads, put everything online under CC-BY-SA (https, no paywall, no login required to read), create a downloadable pdf for offline viewers, and start a donation drive. I promise you near-zero effective piracy rate. There will be sites with exact copies, but no one will use them or link to them because they will have ads, and your site will actually be the most convenient source. If you can't get enough in donations, then no one wants your magazine, and you should probably diversify your business.
  • by girlintraining ( 1395911 ) on Sunday July 21, 2013 @02:16PM (#44343765)

    the electronic version is quickly pirated and easily available around the world each month...

    Here's the thing; Everyone wants to change the world. Nobody thinks of changing their own thinking or approach to a problem. Nobody's going to beat "piracy". Not you, not the RIAA, the MPAA, or even the most powerful governments on Earth. All they can do is guilt and shame people, threaten and cajoule them, punish them, but they cannot stop them. Everyone thinks we're well into the information age, and it's easy to believe that when the devices we use are changing so fast. But we're still at the very beginning. This is a change to society that will take generations, not years. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

    Now, let's talk about computers. At their most basic, they are devices for the storage, transmission, and manipulation, of binary data. Fundamentally, information sharing is what computers do best, and that capability is what is driving this revolution of human consciousness. Trying to limit it or create new designs so it only works in one direction, is a practice doomed to failure over the long term. We can make short term alterations to our devices, make it more difficult, but we can't eliminate it without destroying the very thing that gives the computer value. This is something hackers, engineers, programmers, and geeks understand implicitly, but we have a hard time verbalizing it to outsiders.

    We have an even harder time convincing people like you, whose business depends on an outmodded idea that publication and distribution are married to each other, that distribution can be controlled in any way. It's our fault in part because we aren't naturally gifted at communicating how computers work -- it is a radically different approach to everything that came before. Sure, we can come up with phrases like "Information wants to be free", but it rings hollow before traditional modes of thinking. It doesn't communicate the why behind it. Information doesn't want anything. But its creation in digital format means that it is now bound to a new set of rules. Knowledge, once converted to digital form, is now subject to a whole new universe -- it's like the laws of physics got rewritten once digitized.

    You cannot stop "piracy". The future is instantanious information exchange, two-way, multi-modal, and without restriction. No matter what you, or the government, or anyone does, this will eventually be the case. I know it took hundreds of years before people really accepted the Earth is flat, and perhaps it will take even longer before people truly embrace unrestricted information exchange; But it is an inevitability.

    If you want help stopping this, you've come to the wrong place. The solutions offered up will be temporary, incomplete, and at a high cost. My advice to you is to change your thinking. You cannot stop information exchange, but you can give it additional value. In a world where all information is easily exchanged, the only value is in the decision to exchange it. The more you can do to convince people to make that exchange, the more value the goods will have. And as a packaged product, you can put things in like advertisement, etc., to support the costs of publication. Leverage this new resource to all but eliminate the cost of distribution. The network will find a way to do that for you. Focus on creating something worth sharing; And your reputation, your name, will gain value. That is what you sell, not the work itself. The work itself is just a collection of data.

  • Re:Fingerprint it! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by murdocj ( 543661 ) on Sunday July 21, 2013 @02:39PM (#44343931)

    How about if you know who posted the last copy online, he doesn't get any more issues? Assuming that most people are honest (and I believe they are) makes it easy to weed out the jerks.

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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Sunday July 21, 2013 @02:47PM (#44344009)
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  • Re:Fingerprint it! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday July 21, 2013 @03:20PM (#44344309)

    Ok. So have a system which first sends a friendly reminder to the subscriber whose copy ended up online that it is a copyright infringement to post it online. If the same subscriber's copy ends up online more often you terminate that subscription. In other words, the dog might really eat your homework once but if you let it happen repeatedly, you have to face the consequences.

  • by RelaxedTension ( 914174 ) on Sunday July 21, 2013 @03:30PM (#44344383)

    This increases the labor for the pirates and actually gives you some labor flexibility on producing content.

    You clearly have not seen the tenacity that pirates are capable of. For most, it isn't about ripping someone off, it's about sharing something. Add to that a lot of people with with a lot of time on their hands, and they will work tirelessly to put those articles together, day after day, month after month.

    The other posters suggesting the value-adds mixed with free are bang on. Forums, article archives, lots of "free" stuff, and a reasonable price will potentially get you far more revenue on the net than your print editions would. Embed short videos or effects that help get the article's point across. That's tougher to include in pirated versions, and generally won't be, so you have one up one the pirated version. Use the medium to it's potential, and they will come.

    Most important, work on eyeballs for advertising revenue, not necessarily subscriptions. You have the potential ,make so much more money on the web if you have good content.

  • Re:Fingerprint it! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Scarletdown ( 886459 ) on Sunday July 21, 2013 @05:46PM (#44345369) Journal

    And if the one who that copy is "registered" to was finished with it, and passed it on to someone else without keeping any copies for himself wasn't the one who uploaded it?

    Typically, with magazines or any other media, when you are finished with it, you are well within your rights to give it away, resell it (if you can find a buyer), or do whatever you want with it, as long as you don't keep any copies for yourself. Just because said media is distributed electronically instead of printed on paper should in no way give the publisher any additional special privileges than what copyright already grants.

  • This is the digital age... the best method is to re-tool the publication process. As part of the subscription service, have a questionnaire to fill out that personalizes the ads. As part of the publication process, include information about the subscriber in the ad holes -- you can even customize the content to some degree (in an automated manner) based on the subscriber.

    This results in an excellent watermark, as each subscriber will have slightly different content. Just do rolling MD5 hashes, and you'll quickly figure out who's leaking the content. Then stop their subscription.

    It comes back to the old "give them something to make it worth it" model -- if you make the subscription for more than "get a dead tree magazine in digital form" and add in the ability to provide online feedback for ads and content, do things to make the customer feel connected to what you're sharing with them, and as a side benefit get excellent demographics information for your advertisers, then even if the magazine itself is pirated all over the place, people will still subscribe, as you're providing them a service that goes beyond that.

    One idea off the top of my head: have an online forum where subscribers can discuss the content -- close it off to everyone else. When you print the digital copy for the individual for the month, include the "top 5 posts in customer's chosen category" as part of the Letters sections, and maybe even a roll-up of all comments the customer left on the website since the last publication, plus responses to those by other customers. Costs virtually nothing, but would be an excellent hook and security mechanism.

  • by Camael ( 1048726 ) on Sunday July 21, 2013 @11:37PM (#44347143)

    The best approach for dealing with piracy is making your content easily accessible, hassle-free (i.e., no DRM), and offered at a fair price.

    Let me expand on this point. There are broadly 2 kinds of pirates - those who enjoy your product and pirate for personal use (the fans), and those who pirate commercially to make money for themselves (the thieves).

    The fans are normally concerned with easy and cheap access to your product. Give it to them and most fans will not bother to pirate because it is risky (exposure to malware), often time consuming (some obscure products can be really hard to find), inconvenient (usually need to assemble from multiple sources) or require technical expertise (eg. applying cracks, rooting). A good example would be Steam [nydailynews.com] which provides cheap and convenient access to games. A counter example would be Game of Thrones [cnn.com] - If you live in Oz, you can't get it (no access) and it is expensive (requires cable subscription).

    As for the thieves, normally an obscure small technical magazine would not be of interest to them. The exception is if your product is so expensive that even your fans are willing to buy copies from pirates, making it financially worthwhile. Again, reducing your product to a fair price (by market standards) will largely solve this problem. One example is AutoCAD, which has a captive market, ridiculous monopoly pricing and a huge piracy problem.

    Since you mentioned "secure", I assume you are contemplating some form of DRM. Just be aware of its disadvantages -its usually expensive (you need to buy/licence the DRM, maintain some way of policing it, maintain customer service to handle irate buyers, have some sort of refund sceheme for customers who cannot run the DRM), it can negatively impact sales (see Sony rootkits [wikipedia.org]), and if badly implemented, can actually cause lawsuits e.g. SecureROM [latimes.com].

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