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US Air Force Reporting Pilot Shortage 270

An anonymous reader writes "Times sure have changed: it is no longer cool to be a fighter pilot. The Pentagon expects to be short some 200 fighter pilots this year, and is projecting that shortfall will increase to 700 pilots by 2021. Various factors seem to be involved: better paying jobs in the commercial sector with more stability, the stress of repeated overseas deployments, and the threat that ultimately the job they trained to do — fly planes — is being superseded by remotely-controlled drones. With demand for commercial aviators heating up as thousands of pilots are expected to reach mandatory retirement age (65) in the next five years, the Air Force is caught in a quandary. Where are they going to get the pilots to fly their shiny new F-35s?"
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US Air Force Reporting Pilot Shortage

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  • by EmagGeek ( 574360 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @03:30PM (#44354013) Journal

    People don't want to sign up for the armed services knowing that they're just going to be shipped off immediately to one of these middle-eastern hell holes to fight some undeclared war over some bullshit "terror" campaign to "keep us safe" from that big, evil Constitution that is making government's job so difficult.

  • F35 and F22 (Score:0, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 22, 2013 @03:32PM (#44354027)

    Or perhaps it could be that the F-22 has been shown to be a grossly overpriced death-trap, and the F35 is also likely going to be proven a piece of shit as well. No sane pilot would willingly fly those pieces of shit.

    As for the drones, why not just get a bunch of pimply-faced snot-nosed kids to fly them?

    -- Ethanol-fueled

  • Time for TOP GUN 2 (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Joe_Dragon ( 2206452 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @03:34PM (#44354059)

    TOP GUN made a lot of people sign up for the navy

  • pfft (Score:4, Insightful)

    by meglon ( 1001833 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @03:37PM (#44354083)

    ....the Air Force is caught in a quandary. Where are they going to get the pilots to fly their shiny new F-35s?"

    And here i thought their quandary was wondering: if, when, and for how many trillions of dollars it was going to be for the F-35 to be anything more than a theft of taxpayer money by the MIC.

  • by alen ( 225700 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @03:41PM (#44354139)

    at this point to be a pilot you have to be in the top 5% of your HS class, go to the air force academy, go to flight school and then train on your aircraft

    where to be an airline pilot all you need is to go to flight school and pass a test

    this isn't the 70's and 80's. if you're in the top 5% of your HS class you can make a lot more money in medicine, banking, law and lots of other careers

  • by willy_me ( 212994 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @03:52PM (#44354259)
    A shortage of pilots is possible but not fighter pilots. The jobs that will require pilots will be the boring jobs - not those where you get the break the sound barrier. For every F22 pilot I'm sure the air force requires 100 other pilots and it's those for which the air force might be hard-up to find replacements.
  • Re:Maybe fix them? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 22, 2013 @03:54PM (#44354297)

    Maybe the USAF can import foreigners on H1-B visas to train as pilots. I mean if these people are the best and brightest why wouldn't the USAF want them too?

  • by couchslug ( 175151 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @04:06PM (#44354415)

    That's been going on a very long time and hasn't stopped potential aircrew. The perception they won't get a slot for their effort IS a deterrent.

    What does piss off pilots and ruin RETENTION (which creates shortages) is their "extra duties" and square-filling they are tasked with when not flying. If the Air Force wanted to retain pilots it would reduce the bullshit they have to put up with. It's not as if pilots aren't vocal about it. Many would be delighted with a full career "flying track" even if they weren't promoted as quickly. With command comes a desk, and that desk never empties.

    Pilots do not live in "hellhole" conditions, and neither to most Airmen when deployed.

  • Re:Drones (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 22, 2013 @04:14PM (#44354501)

    Who wants to be a pilot and put your butt on the line every day as you enter enemy territory when you can be a drone pilot half way across the world and go home to your wife and kids every night.

    Besides, it's looking more and more like "fighter pilot" is a dead end job and won't be around forever. Why send one fighter when you can send 10 drones that can outmaneuver any manned plane for the less cost and no risk to pilots life.

    ..and in either case your targets are not likely to even be military targets. That must bite into the motivation factor, knowing that you'll be second guessing if you're shooting up pajero full of teens going to the market, paramilitaries on your side or "enemy combatants". It's not a dead end job but there is no glory.

  • Great! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Dcnjoe60 ( 682885 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @04:22PM (#44354603)

    Great, now the military is going to want to increase H1B Visas for their shortage, too.

  • by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @04:30PM (#44354689)

    nobody flies fighter jets in the Air Force and then goes on to fly for regional carriers for $25k a year.

    Flying an F-16 is not very good preparation for flying a 737. What the airlines really want is C-17 or C-130 pilots, with plenty of multi-engine experience.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 22, 2013 @04:30PM (#44354695)

    Believe me, that may be a problem with the Army but never with the chAir Force.

    No, their problem is a ridiculous "up or out" policy in the officer corps where if you can't get promoted to a higher rank within a certain length of time, you get shitcanned. Since they only let officers fly planes, they now have a pilot shortage as too many of them are now either gone or at too high a rank to actually do the whole flying thing.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 22, 2013 @04:44PM (#44354813)

    There is the fact that civilian pay for airline pilots is so low. In fact, officer pay (all pilots are O rank) is usually higher than what one can find in the civilian industry.

    A lot of people don't want to be pilots just because there is no future in that field unless one wants to buy their own plane and run their own charter service (good luck.)

    Almost any other profession, the amount of hours one has to log would get them a journeyman or master rank. A commercial airline captain? $40k/year. To boot, the allowances for hotels and such have been pared to the bone... airline crews end up sleeping in bunks/dorms.

    Make the pay worth it, then people will consider that route.

  • by TubeSteak ( 669689 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @06:23PM (#44355715) Journal

    The Indian Air Force embarrassed the USAF in Cope India 2004 and again at Red Flag in 2008.
    The first time was against USAF F-15Cs and the second time, against the F-22.

    The real problem for the USAF is that the F-22 and F-35 will always run out of missiles before they run out of targets.
    And when that happens, their close combat abilities cannot out-class previous generation fighters.

  • by manu0601 ( 2221348 ) on Monday July 22, 2013 @09:41PM (#44357307)

    There is a difference

    .

    When you kill with physical presence, your enemies can try to kill you.

    When you kill remotely, your enemies only possible retaliation is exploding bombs on your territory, because you are not the battle field anymore

    Drone killing and terrorist bombing are two sides of the mirror

  • Comment removed (Score:5, Insightful)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday July 23, 2013 @02:55AM (#44358759)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion

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