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Whirlpool Ditches IBM Collaboration Software, Moves To Google Apps 101

cagraham writes "Appliance maker Whirlpool has decided to stop using IBM's "Notes" collaboration software, and instead move to Google Apps for Business. The Wall Street Journal reports that the decision was based on both worker's familiarity with Google Apps, and lessening the IT workload. Because most workers have used (or use) apps like Google Calendar and Google Docs, Whirlpool's IT staff won't have to devote as much time to initial software training. This move lines up with recent enterprise reports, which largely forecast an increasing move to cloud based software. Whirlpool's contract with Google will cover all of their 30,000 employees."
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Whirlpool Ditches IBM Collaboration Software, Moves To Google Apps

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 07, 2013 @12:29PM (#45060127)

    Having had experienced Lotus Notes before I can tell you that this was not some minor infrastructure change.

    I want to know how they did it without losing any functionality (or sanity!)

  • Hooray!!! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 07, 2013 @12:42PM (#45060319)

    Anything is better than Notes, I would rather chisel messages in stone than use Notes. Wish I was working for Whirlpool now.

  • by ErichTheRed ( 39327 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @12:44PM (#45060357)

    I saw the first post was "what's so special about a company changing their collaboration software?" Allow the old man here from simpler times to explain. :-)

    The reason why it's a big shift is because, at this point, Notes is beyond legacy status when it comes to email/collaboration apps. I don't know how much success Whirlpool will have with Google Apps, but I imagine their users will be happier. For anyone in the IT business in the early/mid 90s and forward, especially if you worked for an IBM shop, you probably have had some exposure to Lotus (now IBM) Notes. My company is still a Notes customer, most probably because of a sweetheart licensing deal or just inertia (I work in our product engineering group, corporate IT is handled separately in my company.) Notes was one of the first "groupware" applications, and companies built huge, complex applications for it. (Oh yeah, I forgot, that's the other reason we're still Notes customers -- rewriting the few remaining mission critical apps with tons of mystical business logic embedded in them hasn't been done yet.) Anyway, email was just another application, and it was never Notes' strong suit. One thing it did have that was very important for 90s era road warriors dialing up from the middle of nowhere was the ability to truly work offline and replicate messages when you had the chance. Outlook only got good at this around 2003, so Notes also had a pretty big following in consulting shops and places that had a lot of disconnected or poorly connected locations. Remember, kiddies, when Notes got its start, the Internet was still an academic exercise and as early as 1998 or so, slow dial up was the norm. That's the environment Notes was built to run in.

    Anyway, IBM has been keeping Notes on life support for ages ,along with Lotus Symphony which it inherited when it bought Lotus. The latest clients have almost completely been rewritten in Java with some native front end code, and it's very slow. One thing Microsoft has done a pretty good job with is the Outlook/Exchange combo in terms of user responsiveness. But Notes still has some of the 90s look and feel in it, and it really seems like they gave the recent client upgrade project to a bunch of new grads in India (which, given that it's IBM, isn't a shocker.)

    Notes is a good lesson in what happens when a formerly decent software product gets ignored for a long time -- a sort of "software rot" slowly sets in and competitors just keep adding new stuff while you stand still. MS Office isn't exactly the same thing -- they're constantly bloating it with new stuff; not really standing still the way IBM has done with Notes.

    It'll be interesting to see how quickly Office 365, Adobe Creative Cloud and Google Apps are taken up by businesses. It'll sure change the landscape for IT guys -- lots of my "professional" colleagues who rely on knowing strange obscure software features over systems engineering work are going to be very surprised one day when companies are just renting applications and need fewer in house people to feed them. I've seen this coming for a while and have been preparing -- even if the whole thing fizzles out, it's good to be multi-talented.

  • by NeutronCowboy ( 896098 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @01:14PM (#45060777)

    To some extent. They're going to disappear in small mom and pop shops, but they're going to grow in the service providers.

    What you're seeing is a shift in the type of tools being maintained in companies, the types of skills needed to maintain them, and the companies where specific skills are needed. It's not going to be IT staff anymore, it's going to be tool admins and maintainers. It's not going to be IT helpdesk anymore, it's going to be department help desk. It's not going to be Woolworth IT anymore, it's going to be Google IT.

    As always, if you're in IT, keep your skills up-to-date, stay up-to-date on business trends, and be ready to adapt at the drop of a hat. Or look for a job in a different field.

  • by CohibaVancouver ( 864662 ) on Monday October 07, 2013 @02:41PM (#45061893)

    All that sounds totally right, because after all terminals and networks don't need administrators or support staff.

    Of course they do, but they need way fewer of them. No exchange server admins. No desktop admins. No server specialists.

    Heck, the office manager could handle a lot of it:

    "My Chromebook isn't working."
    "Here you go." (Hands over replacement Chromebook from cupboard.)
    "Thanks."

    (Employee goes back to work.)

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