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Enlightenment E19 To Have Full Wayland Support

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  • by wjcofkc (964165) on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:07PM (#46524843)
    No it will not take a decade to see E19 final. Once the project started back up again, they went from E16 to E17 in one year. E18 was quickly on it's heels and now a functional beta of E19 is already out. I am on their mailing list and follow the project closely. They are developing at warp speed. To all the people who install a recent version of E, play with it for a few hours, declare it crap and purge it from their systems: you have no idea what you are missing. If Enlightenment has a problem, it is that to use it to it's full potential - which is vast - one must endure one of the, if not the, steepest learning curves of any DE out there. Once mastered, there is no GUI\DE more powerful and flexible. I am currently running Bodhi 4.2 with E 17.4 and out 16 years of using Linux and every other DE\WM that has come along over that duration, this is the greatest setup I have ever had. I have one display setup with four workspaces, each setup in it's own tiling configuration and my other display setup in a more traditional, but heavily customized way. The window tiling abilities in E are no joke and one of the primary reasons I use it. Being able to use it both ways, one on each monitor is more than I could ever ask for. Now, if all E could do right after an install was limited to what you are presented with, then yes, it would be silly. But it is up to the user, perhaps with a little Googling, forum searching, and getting the mailing list to make it do whatever your hearts content. Because of this, Enlightenment is not for everyone: power users only need apply. I keep going, but i will stop here before I get too carried away. My only gripe is the current lack of documentation for Elementary, which makes writing software for it difficult since you can only learning by studying source code, but standard tutorials are on the way.
  • Re:Huh? (Score:3, Interesting)

    by squiggleslash (241428) on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:12PM (#46524881) Homepage Journal

    Enlightenment - an early X11 proto-DE famous for its Hollywood style UI in the late nineties that kinda died because development went into a black hole for several years, Duke Nukem style, with version 17. Ironically, considered in the 1990s to be an example of bloated style-over-substance engineering, the delay with the release of E17 resulted in it being considered a highly efficient lightweight system when it was finally released.

    E19 - The next version of Enlightenment, one assumes.

    Wayland - an attempt to create a "lightweight" graphics layer for Linux to use in place of X11. Extremely popular amongst X11 devs, but widely derided as unwanted, unasked for, and unsuitable as an X11 replacement (not to mention likely to end up with more problems than X11), by GNU/Linux users. Only gaining steam because some idiots at Canonical decided to create a rival project, Mir, which means suddenly the choice between X11 and Wayland has been turned into a fight between Mir and Wayland, like the GNOME 2 vs GNOME 3 thing became GNOME 3 vs Unity.

    DRM - a Linux kernel subsystem that's used by various GNU/Linux userspace apps to access the graphics card. Usually applications proxy their access via X11 and OpenGL. In theory, the closer you get to DRM, the more efficient your use of the graphics card becomes, or something.

  • Re:Can you explain (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @12:33PM (#46525073)

    No, the people complaining about Wayland missing remote support know about this.

    They're complaining because Wayland doesn't have the correct type of remote support. They'd much prefer it if their display server was responsible for drawing every widget (of every toolkit (used by every app)) primative-by-primative, instruction-by-instruction.

    You know, because they're retarded.

  • by jones_supa (887896) on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @01:09PM (#46525351)

    What I'm not getting - what does Enlightenment offer that the others don't do better?

    Cool window decorations []!

    There are some nice and clean themes for KDE/GNOME, but the theming system in both seems a bit lacking in flexibility. All the themes look kind of the same but with different colors.

    Back in 1999 Linux desktops were horrible mismashes of different widgets and applications that didn't fit together, but the window title bars had beautiful pixel art vines running on them and stuff like that. That was fun, I miss those parts.

A bug in the code is worth two in the documentation.