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Jesse Jackson To Take On Silicon Valley's Lack of Diversity 397

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from the equality-in-industry dept.
New submitter wyattstorch516 writes "San Jose Mecury News reports that Jesse Jackson will lead a delegation to HP's next board meeting to discuss the hiring of technology companies in regard to African-Americans and Latinos. 'About one in 14 tech workers is black or Latino both in the Silicon Valley and nationally. Blacks and Hispanics make up 13.1 and 16.9 percent of the U.S. population, respectively, according to the most recent Census data.' Jackson sent a letter to HP, Apple, Google, Twitter, Facebook, and others about meeting to discuss diversity issues."
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Jesse Jackson To Take On Silicon Valley's Lack of Diversity

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @06:37PM (#46528667)

    Actually, black culture penalizes anyone black who allows his/her intelligence to get them ahead. Any child who does so is beaten and bullied by the other black kids, so they learn to hide their abilities and blend in. Some emerge and excell, but sadly, too many are lost to the lifestyle. As a retired teacher, I have seen this and it is hard to eliminate, and if you try, it is risky.

    AC to preserve mods. I really, really don't want to agree with this. It seems like a topic better suited for the 1950's than the 2010's. But, I have seen it happen firsthand at a goddammed university. In grad school, one of the most brilliant people I knew was a blerd, his dad was an engineer and his mom was a nurse, the guy was doing calculus since age 8. I saw him get treated like garbage by his undergrads (he was teaching at the time) because he was a huge black guy who refused to conform to what they thought he should be. It isn't a black or white problem per se, it's a problem of how society has conditioned its members to judge success by different racial groups. Jeremy Lin should have been a doctor, Neil deGrasse Tyson could've been a baller, etc. How on Earth are we still having these conversations?

  • by CanHasDIY (1672858) on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @07:02PM (#46528905) Homepage Journal

    Actually, black culture penalizes anyone black who allows his/her intelligence to get them ahead. Any child who does so is beaten and bullied by the other black kids, so they learn to hide their abilities and blend in.

    As an outwardly Caucasian male* who grew up in the rural backwoods of Missouri and went to school with a 99.9% Caucasian student body, I can assure you that being bullied for showing intelligence is far from being a "black problem."

    * Being a solid 1/4 Blackfoot, I prefer to think of myself as a "mud race."

  • Re:Fuck that guy. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Salo2112 (628590) on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @08:52PM (#46529839)

    so unless Jackson thinks HP should hire unqualified people just because they are black or latino, he should probably focus his efforts earlier in the pipeline

    He does.

  • Re:Fuck that guy. (Score:3, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @10:05PM (#46530381)

    I don't think "affirmative action" means what you think it means. "Affirmative action" as applied is a system were underrepresented minorities are given a preference in admissions and hiring. Asians aren't an underrepresented minority in just about anything. In fact, they represent overwhelming majorities in many areas and are the most hurt by skin-color preference programs (aka "Affirmative Action").

    We may hold different opinions on whether we should judge someone based on the color of their skin (I don't think we should), but we certainly can't argue fact, and how "affirmative action" is applied is fact.

    Define "underrepresented".

    If you just go by percentage of population, maybe you're right.

    But what if, because of "affirmative action", a lower percentage of Asians who want to be doctors gets to be doctors than some other race? If 10 Asians want to be doctors, and 5 blacks, but because of "affirmative action" you admit all 5 blacks to medical school but only 3 Asians, who's "underrepresented"?

    And no matter how you slice it, "affirmative action" is LITERALLY racist.

    Never mind the fact "underrepresented" is another word for "We need quotas".

  • Re:Fuck that guy. (Score:4, Informative)

    by CapOblivious2010 (1731402) on Wednesday March 19, 2014 @11:55PM (#46530951)

    so unless Jackson thinks HP should hire unqualified people just because they are black or latino, he should probably focus his efforts earlier in the pipeline

    I doubt that's what he thinks - he doesn't actually care about black or latino people. He just wants the publicity, and some sort of "fund for underprivileged nerds" to be set up, which he can then "administer" in a way that benefits him and his friends. Shakedown, plain and simple.

  • Re:Fuck that guy. (Score:5, Informative)

    by AlphaWolf_HK (692722) on Thursday March 20, 2014 @01:29AM (#46531317)

    Actually what he doesn't realize is that affirmative action is very much applying to Asians. A) It shits on them B) It is working as intended.

    Don't believe me? Here you go:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/a... [thedailybeast.com]

    There's a certain irony in the fact that white students usually bring these affirmative action lawsuits (and that defenses of affirmative action are often framed in terms of white privilege). The evidence seems to show that if completely race-neutral admissions policies were adopted at colleges and universities, the admissions rates for blacks and hispanic would fall dramatically . . . but the admissions rates for whites wouldn't change much. The primary beneficiaries would be Asian students, who would fill nearly four out of five of the extra admissions slots.

    So in other words, the research shows that if affirmative action was removed, whites would be unaffected, but Asians would replace blacks and hispanics in big numbers.

    So what is the end result of affirmative action? Asians get fucked, and a sizable number of hispanics and blacks who are given these position in their place really shouldn't be there. No matter how you slice it, everybody loses here, even if you believe in white guilt and that white people need to be punished (affirmative action doesn't currently appear to punish them.)

    So I still stand by my statement that the claim that "95% of people think affirmative action is to help Asians" has got to be incorrect.

    I didn't make that claim. What I said was 95% of the ones I argue with about it say that.

  • Re:Fuck that guy. (Score:4, Informative)

    by hairyfeet (841228) <bassbeast1968.gmail@com> on Thursday March 20, 2014 @07:55AM (#46532423) Journal
    That doesn't change the fact its still racism and white guilt. Racism is racism and we have seen time and time again shit like affirmative action simply does not work. If you want to make ALL schools better? if you want to make it easier for ALL to get a STEM education? That is a good and logical goal, but all you do when you decide "we need more of X" is lower the standards for X and make sure everyone who is X that gets in is looked at as inferior.

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