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ICANN CEO Wants To Make Progress On Leaving US Control 73

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itwbennett writes: ICANN CEO Fadi Chehadé hopes to make progress on preparations to take over running the world's central DNS servers from the U.S. government's National Telecommunications and Information Agency when the organization meets in London next week. 'I think this is a meeting where the ICANN community has to deal with the fact, the good fact, that its relationship with the U.S. government, which characterized its birth, its existence and growth, has now run its course,' Chehadé said.
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ICANN CEO Wants To Make Progress On Leaving US Control

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 21, 2014 @07:05PM (#47290321)

    The article is NOT about the DNS, although it is certainly about something extremely important: IANA.

    NTIA (US gov agency) *asked* ICANN to provide a plan for the *stewardship* of IANA to move to ICANN.

    ICANN is already the IANA *functions* contractor (i.e. it takes care of the operational arm of IANA), _and_ the global DNS coordinator.

    That's it.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    ICANN, when it was started, touted itself as an organization for everyone

    They even issue "membership cards" to those who registered --- I did, and still have that membership card with me

    But then it changed --- changed into a bureaucracy that only listen to the power-that-be, be it the government or the corporations

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by aurizon (122550)

      If the UN is any example, an independent ICAAN will turn into the corrupt instrument of the nations that compose it and will control the new ICANN and then a new regime will levy taxes on the users - and these taxes, which they will call fees, will be spent uncoltrollably to creat an edifice like the UN, 200% corrupt. THE US congress is similarly corrupt, as we see by the FVV and Internet lobbyists.

      I do not know how this can be prevented, apart by not letting it fall into the control of these crooks.

      That s

  • The move is rather symbolic. Economic espionage is too important. US economy is failing, jobs are only created in financial sector and military.
    Dissidents are put in jail. No wonder US has the largest number of its own population in Gitmo style jails.

    • by dreamchaser (49529) on Saturday June 21, 2014 @07:45PM (#47290497) Homepage Journal

      The US economy is doing a damn sight better than the EU's, and most job growth is in sectors like hospitality, mining, retail, business services, etc. I don't know where you got your facts but they aren't. Aren't facts that is.

  • ICANN had the chance to really address this issue when they had the at-large members of its governing board. It would have had representatives from every continent and major group of people from the Earth, but now it is run by major corporations and a joke of an organization.

    Just look up how Karl Auerbach was treated by ICANN (when he was a legal member of the board asking basic questions about its governance and finances), where he had to sue in state courts of California simply to get basic information like when meetings were being held and how its finances were being spent.

    • by rtb61 (674572) on Saturday June 21, 2014 @10:33PM (#47291161) Homepage

      The whole thing doesn't make any sense at all. Let each country do it's own DNS as it sees fit and via treaty and alliances align those DNS records as they see fit. As long as the IP address work the DNS is nothing more than simplifying address entry with a gross corporatised delusion of economic value (marketing, marketing and more marketing, brand names, squatters, sex sells, hell it even sells domain names). At the end of the day it is still up to the individual user where the hell they point the browser in domain name lookup and the major ISPs haven't even started playing the DNS name game by forcefully pointing their customers at internal DNS servers with a new for sale yet again Domain name.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Teancum (67324)

        Each country could.... which is sort of the reason for the country TLD code. There is even a ".us" domain for American addresses (not that it is used much, but it does exist). I suppose a country could have its DNS servers ignore .com or .mil TLD codes in favor of stuff done in its own borders, but then it wouldn't really be the internet either, would it? One way to accomplish that is to redirect .com to .com.us as is sometimes done with some other countries like .co.uk as the top level domain for UK-bas

        • by rtb61 (674572)

          You kind of missed that whole treaties and alliances bit, didn't you ;). Those countries that work together will make it work, those that don't wont get to play. All the central body needs to do is register and acknowledge those treaties and alliances. The US really screwed the pooch when they nabbed .gov and .mil and so supremely arrogantly pretend like .gov.us and .mil.us don't exist to the point of not even redirecting them, as they as they are concerned they are the global government and the global mil

          • by Teancum (67324)

            You kind of missed that whole treaties and alliances bit, didn't you ;).

            No, I didn't miss that. What you missed is that it is already under the control of the U.S. government, which makes such international treaties a total joke that can be thrown out the door at any time by the USA. It is up to other countries to try and negotiate through diplomatic pressure or however else to get the USA to give it up.

            This includes the .mil and .gov stuff. Then again they could throw the internet protocols and standards out the window and start their own damn network too. Good luck with t

            • by rtb61 (674572)

              It is nothing at all to do with the US, it is quite simply up to countries to legislate to local ISPs to point to local DNS servers by default and how those local DNS servers are run is up to those government. Nothing more and nothing less, so the imperialist US government can basically bugger off with it servers until such time as they come to agreement with other countries. Otherwise all those companies that invested in international but seized by US imperialist domains can complain to the US about their

        • by 1s44c (552956)

          You know the top level domains are generic don't you? The US is domain squatting ".mil" and ".gov".

          ".us" is the correct domain for country specific domains in the US.

  • US government doesn't want, so don't even involve them unless you're simply telling them what you're about to do. US citizens tend to be nice people, but our government is a big gigantic predator. So do what you're gonna do, but realize the US government will only pretend to be negotiating, it's a delaying tactic.

    I'm barely familiar with the facts at all, but I gaurantee I'm correct.

  • if other nations want to limit google searches to only "favorable" found sets, then HELL NO do not give away control over the internet.

  • They had such a good deal here... all they had to do was not abuse it... and the fucktards in the US federal government just couldn't help themselves.

    At this point, I'd welcome the dissolution of the republic. Let all the states go off and be 50 little countries. They can reform after the fact into larger conglomerates or federations if they want. But the US fed is consuming itself with a malignant belief in its own superiority.

    They're endlessly arrogant. They think no rules apply to them because they make

  • ..and you'll probably die from a hearth attack shortly after.

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