KDevelop 4.7.0 Released 48
KDE Community (3396057) writes "KDevelop team is proud to announce the final release of KDevelop 4.7.0. This release is special, as it marks the end of the KDE4 era for us. As such, KDevelop 4.7.0 comes with a long-term stability guarantee. The CMake support was improved and extended to ensure that all idioms needed for KF5 development are available. The unit test support UI was polished and several bugs fixed. In the same direction, some noteworthy issues with the QtHelp integration were addressed. KDevelop's PHP language support now handles namespaces better and can understand traits aliases. Furthermore, some first fruits of the Google summer of code projects are included in this release. These changes pave the path toward better support for cross compile toolchains. Feature-wise, KDevelop now officially supports the Bazaar (bzr) version control system. On the performance front, it was possible to greatly reduce the memory footprint when loading large projects with several thousand files in KDevelop. Additionally, the startup should now be much faster."
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It's a hideous IDE that the KDevelopers use to develop KDevelop.
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Re:And KDevelope is what exactly? (Score:5, Informative)
It's something that's general knowledge for the majority of Slashdot readers, and doesn't need to be explained in the summary. Also, the Slashdot target audience is capable of using a search engine to look up something if they don't know what it is.
Re:And KDevelope is what exactly? (Score:4, Insightful)
It's something that's general knowledge for the majority of Slashdot readers
Nope. I've never even heard of it - and having read that announcement I'm still no clearer what it is, what it does or whether I should be interested in it.
However, it's not alone. There is a huge amount of FOSS that has an entire "front" web page that tells people in exquisite detail what changes have been made, who contributed, how others can get involved and what bugs are outstanding without ever mentioning what the hell the project does, or what benefits it brings the world. This just adds one more to the tally.
It may be the best thing since sliced bread, but until these projects extract their collective heads and start addressing the billions of people outside their closed, little development communities, no-one will ever know,
Re:And KDevelope is what exactly? (Score:4, Informative)
Nope. I've never even heard of it - and having read that announcement I'm still no clearer what it is, what it does or whether I should be interested in it.
So you constitue the majority of slashdot users?
FYI: It is an Integrated Development Environment targeted for Qt and KDE development with C and C++.
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So you constitue the majority of slashdot users?
Sadly, nowadays, yes.
Re:And KDevelope is what exactly? (Score:5, Informative)
It's not the project's fault that the submitter/editors linked to the release notes rather than the main page.
From the main page:
"KDevelop is a free, open source IDE (Integrated Development Environment) for Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD, Max OS X and other Unix flavors.
It is a feature-full, plugin extensible IDE for C/C++ and other programming languages.
It is based on KDevPlatform, and the KDE and Qt libraries and is under development since 1998."
So, your statement about "adding one more to the tally" of projects that do not "mention what the hell the project does" is incorrect.
Though, I would agree with the sentiment higher up, that editors really should be including a brief summary on many of these things, even though I knew what the project is, myself.
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Though, I would agree with the sentiment higher up, that editors really should be including a brief summary on many of these things, even though I knew what the project is, myself.
I tend to agree, sometimes all it needs is a one-liner. But, ffs, in this case it is "KDevelop" for KDE. It should be obvious.
Update: re-reading my line above, I realized that yes, I too, can be blind to domain specific lingo. I get called on it occasionally at work. I describe a process in precise, exact terms, look up, and everyone is staring blankly at me. The trick is to dumb it down without being condescending*.
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* Dammit, did it again.
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I generally agree with the statement that a lot of open source projects do very little to inform website visitors of what the project actually does.
In this particular case, the page tells only generically what KDevelop is.
Most current IDE's would fit the same generic description.
The front-page doesn't indicate how KDevelop is different from the other IDE's or why one would want to use KDevelop instead of another IDE.
Re:And KDevelope is what exactly? (Score:5, Insightful)
If a short paragraph that contains the following: "KDE Community, KDevelop, CMake, development, unit test support, UI, QtHelp, PHP language support, namespaces, Google summer of code, cross compile toolchains, version control system" is not enough to clue you in, attract your interest or prompt you to type in "what is KDevelop" into Google (another website whose front page does not explain what it does or its benefits ;-) ), then these closed, little development communities are better off with you keeping your head firmly where it is.
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If the description of an IDE fails include "IDE", then potential users or contributers are better off not wasting time figuring out what the code fails to include.
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Then the complaint would be that "IDE" wasn't explained. But I agree that those "users or potential contributors" AND the project are better off without each other.
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Nope. I've never even heard of it
Neither have I. Yet despite this being the first time I've heard of it, it was pretty easy to figure out from context of the summary and the rare, actual descriptive name.
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ever think maybe you don't belong here then? that you're a fucking retard who doesn't know anything about software or development? go fuck yourself and post on reddit you piece of shit.
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Its an IDE that has been around for quite a while. Googling 'what is kdevelop' I got:
KDevelop is a free software integrated development environment (IDE) for the KDE Platform on Unix-like computer operating systems. KDevelop includes no compiler; instead, it uses an external compiler such as GCC to produce executable code.
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There is a huge amount of FOSS that has an entire "front" web page that tells people in exquisite detail what changes have been made, who contributed, how others can get involved and what bugs are outstanding without ever mentioning what the hell the project does
From the KDevelop Front Page [kdevelop.org].
KDevelop
is a free, open source IDE (Integrated Development Environment) for Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD, Max OS X and other Unix flavours. It is a feature-full, plugin extensible IDE for C/C++ and other programming languages. It is based on KDevPlatform, and the KDE and Qt libraries and is under development since 1998.
That seems fairly self explanatory to me.
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However, there could be something in the summary on Slashdot, quite easily. The first word is "KDevelop". That could easily have been a link to the project front page, or it could have been expanded to "The KDevelop IDE" and everybody would be happy.
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Quoted for truth!
That said, "KDevelop" is pretty self-explanatory: it's the word "develop" with a "K" in front of it, which pretty obviously (to Slashdotters, at least) means a development environment for KDE.
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Th G, O, L and E kys ar brkn n my kybard, yu insnsitiv cd!
Lon term stability? (Score:4, Funny)
So in KDEs terms that would be 1 year?
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I'm more interested in whether or not they've fixed the long term usability rather than stability. The last time I tried KDevelop, it didn't even come with built- in templates for C.
I'm still waiting on Commodore BASIC support.
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Apparently you missed 95% of my sentence. Here it is, again.
I'm hopeful the next era you let us turn off that fucking cashew without jumping through 30 flaming hoops.
without jumping through 30 flaming hoops.
If they had put a checkbox somewhere to tell the whole workspaces thing to fuck off and be a normal desktop, I wouldn't have had an issue with it.
Re:hopeful (Score:5, Funny)
Re:hopeful (Score:5, Interesting)
The scary thing is I don't know if you're being silly or serious.
kdevelop helped me transition to Linux (Score:3)
Back when I was a computer science student just learning Linux, kdevelop was one of the apps that made Linux accessible for me. That and kde itself. Once I got acclimated, I quickly switched to vim and ended with gnome. But I've always had a soft spot for kdevelop and think it's great they've come so far.
Guys, make it work on OSX and Windows. (Score:5, Interesting)