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Islamic State Doxes US Soldiers, Airmen, Calls On Supporters To Kill Them 336

Posted by samzenpus from the directions-to-a-murder dept.
An anonymous reader writes in with this story about the latest weapon used by ISIS: doxing. "Middle East terrorist organization Islamic State (ISIS) has called on its followers take the fight to 100 members of the United States military residing in the US. A group calling itself the 'Islamic State Hacking Division' has posted names, addresses, and photographs of soldiers, sailors, and airmen online, asking its 'brothers residing in America' to murder them, according to Reuters. Although the posting purports to come from the 'Hacking Division,' US Department of Defense officials say that none of their systems appear to have been breached by the group. Instead, the personal data was almost certainly culled from publicly available sources, a DoD official told the New York Times on the condition of anonymity."
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Islamic State Doxes US Soldiers, Airmen, Calls On Supporters To Kill Them

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  • Needs a honeypot (Score:5, Interesting)

    by russotto ( 537200 ) on Sunday March 22, 2015 @01:19PM (#49313849) Journal

    The military needs to post a few names and addresses themselves. They'll look like regular houses but they'll actually be guard posts. If anyone shows up and starts shooting, they end up dead.

    • Re:Needs a honeypot (Score:5, Insightful)

      by X0563511 ( 793323 ) on Sunday March 22, 2015 @01:26PM (#49313879) Homepage Journal

      That sounds like the kind of work the CIA is supposed to do.

      • The CIA would do it right - the "guard posts" would be across the street, with clear sight-lines.

    • Re:Needs a honeypot (Score:5, Insightful)

      by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Sunday March 22, 2015 @01:27PM (#49313883)

      The military needs to post a few names and addresses themselves.

      Maybe they just did, and this is a false flag [wikipedia.org] operation to lure ISIS supporters into the open.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by jedidiah ( 1196 )

      This is stupid. Nobody needs to dox anyone. These kinds of people that ISIS wants to target are self identifying. There are any number of obvious symbols that "terrorists" could latch onto if they wanted to lash out at servicemen and their families.

      There's simply no need for cloak and dagger or "hacking".

    • Great idea! But if anybody actually acts on the ISIS information with domestic attacks on personnel, their religion is finished in this country for all time to come. I'm the first to agree that wouldn't be fair, but in this time of war that is what will happen.

  • Careful, they might shoot back (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 22, 2015 @01:20PM (#49313855)

    Targeting those with the ability to shoot back seems like a less than cunning plan.

    • The only people who are going to check their favorite blog, see this sort of stuff, and then go try to act on it are ... pretty damn dim/broken in the first place. Cunning isn't really a big part of the equation, not at the ISIS grunt level, and certainly not at the lone-wolf-"inspired-by" level. We've seen several examples of those inspired-by types in the last couple of months, and those guys were plain old nuts.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by hey! ( 33014 )

      You don't get to shoot back if you're dead.

      Put yourself in the place of someone who wants to murder an identified US serviceman. Could the victim do anything to stop you if you were determined and patient enough, and willing to die?

      Our system protects people by instilling fear of consequences. That works very well for most crimes and criminals, but not if the criminal believes he has the skills to avoid being caught (the beltway sniper) or is intent on committing blue suicide (Adam Lanza).

    • There's only one problem with an otherwise perfect hypothesis: Most soldiers on base don't walk around armed. Hell, even Marines guarding embassies overseas aren't often armed. Look at stock photos and you can see that while they may be walking around with M16s, there are no magazines in the gun.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) *

      Can you imagine how bad a SWATing could go? Armed and trained military personnel who are already paranoid that guys might be coming to get them. Clueless gun-ho cops with itchy trigger fingers on a power trip.

      Even just ordering them a few pizzas could easily go south.

    • Targeting those with the ability to shoot back seems like a less than cunning plan.

      Unless the addresses are in jurisdictions that heavily restrict the private possession of firearms.

  • ... against any future use of the term "doxes" in this or any other context. Happily, my last fatwah, condemning all who say things like, "I spent the last couple of hours updating all my Linux boxen" has proven very successful.

  • the personal data was almost certainly culled from publicly available sources

    IS has called for the deaths of:

    Sgt Bilko
    Captain John Carter
    Colonel Jack O'Neil
    Colonel Jack O'Neill
    Major Dad
    General Hospital

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by chthon ( 580889 )

      And General Protection Fault was also rumoured

    • Re:List culled from public sources, and here it is (Score:5, Funny)

      by bkmoore ( 1910118 ) on Sunday March 22, 2015 @01:50PM (#49314005)
      You've forgotten Colonel Sanders and General Tso, both responsible for the death of innumerable chickens.
    • Notice they're not dumb enough to go after Corporal Punishment.
    • God help them if they target Commander Shepard.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) *

      Don't forget...

      Private Browsing
      Corporal Punishment
      General Recklessness
      Sgt. Slaughter
      Captain Jack Sparrow
      Major Damage
      Commander Riker

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by PPH ( 736903 )

      Please, not Private Gomer Pyle.

    • Oh, my fucking God! The Muslims killed Captain Crunch . . . and Snap, Crackle and Pop . . . and the Trix Rabbit! Things are getting serious now! C'mon Americans! Radical Muslims are easy to spot. Their women wear head to toe burkas. You are armed to the teeth . . . you just need to shoot at the burkas!

      Otherwise, Muslims will take out your breakfast precious bodily fluids!

    • /Oblg. Captain Obvious ...

      Captain Caveman
      Captain Crunch
      Captain Falcon
      Captain Jack Sparrow
      Captain John Carter
      Captain Obvious
      Colonel Jack O'Neil
      Colonel Sanders
      Colonel Sandurz
      Commander Riker
      Commander Shepard
      Corporal Punishment
      General Confusion
      General Hospital
      General Protection Fault
      General Recklessness
      General Tso
      Kernel Lingus
      Kernel Panic
      Major Dad
      Major Damage
      Major Malfunction
      Major Woody
      Private Affairs
      Private Benjamin
      Private Browsing
      Private Parts
      Sgt. Bilko
      Sgt. Slaughter

  • Most soldiers are quite open and public about their service, proudly wear uniforms, sport bumper stickers and baseball hats with their units and affiliation. So this move by IS might get some news play but unlikely to do much damage to the military. There were never shortages of soft targets of US military personnel in the home land. This will not impact our soldiers much.

    But doxing of other activists would really have a chilling effect in the political speech. Hope agencies take doxing seriously and if any of the perps are within jurisdiction, hope they catch them and punish them.

    • The military takes a hard stand on Operations Security (OPSEC), with annual refresher training for every member. There are numerous rules in place regarding use of personal information and posters everwhere reminding everyone of good OPSEC practices. That said, you can't tell a soldier he can't have a Facebook page, and it wouldn't be enforceable anyway.
      • Various towns around here must not have gotten the OPSEC memo. For years they have flown banners on main street with local service members names and faces.

        Personally I think it is a nice tribute and hope it continues. These service members are at a greater driving their car on the highway than from ISIS. Lets not get all hysterical, which is what ISIS wants.

  • Our supposedly omnipotent spy agency should be able to track down where these posts are coming from. Their silence on this matter is deafening.

  • Seriously? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by wisnoskij ( 1206448 ) on Sunday March 22, 2015 @02:18PM (#49314133) Homepage
    How does that even work is the list millions of names long? It is not like any of this is highly guarded secret. If someone in america wants ti kill soldiers they would not need some random internet list to find any.

  • Considering they doxed ISIS fighters, does anyone find it surprising they're returning the favour?

  • Kill them all. (Score:2, Informative)

    by kheldan ( 1460303 )
    These so-called 'islamic state' assholes? They need to die. Every last one of them. No negotiations, no trials, no 'explanations' -- just fucking KILL THEM ALL, male, female, I don't fucking care, just KILL THEM. Children below a certain age can be de-programmed and put with families that will care for them and raise them to be rational, responsible, sane human beings -- but every last adult that is involved with this uber-asshole 'organization'? They need to be killed.

    This isn't even about religion. It's
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      • The last time we eradicated some power-hungry murderous group in the middle-east, we created ISIS.

        No, that happened because we left before there was a half-decent force in place to keep Iraq functioning, and because the many crossed "red lines" in Syria turn out to be no red lines at all (says the administration), and that conflict has been allowed to fester - a situation the sort of people who morphed their groups into ISIS just love.

      • The last time we eradicated some power-hungry murderous group in the middle-east

        Except, you've never done any such thing.

        You've convinced yourself that the forces of truth and justice went in and cleaned up things right good.

        All you really did is bluster around for a while and then leave saying "mission accomplished". Only to discover you'd left a power vacuum in unstable societies where this could happen.

        America has achieved damned little there, despite claiming the contrary.

        • The US invasion made the whole shit possible.

          Let's not kid ourself, Saddam was an asshole. But he was a secular asshole. In the whole region, there was exactly ONE state that could be considered secular and not full of religious nuts, and that was the Iraq. 'cause they didn't get to gain any ground with Saddam. I sure as hell would not want to live in a country ruled by that madman, but he kept the whole region stable.

          Sadly at the key moment, when the nation needed a smart, strong and level headed leader, a

    • whooooosh!

    • Re:Kill them all. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Earthquake Retrofit ( 1372207 ) on Sunday March 22, 2015 @03:19PM (#49314511) Journal
      I understand your anger. But we're supposed to be better than them. I feel compelled to warn against becoming like your enemy.

    • Re:Kill them all. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by bkmoore ( 1910118 ) on Sunday March 22, 2015 @03:59PM (#49314787)

      ....They need to die. Every last one of them..... It's about a power-vacuum that was created in the Middle East....

      That's exactly the problem. We make a list of every so-called asshole and kill them all only to find out that the problem hasn't been solved and that we need to make a new list of the new assholes who filled in the power-vacuum we created by killing the last bunch of assholes. Not to get all soft here, but the ISIS, Al Quida, etc. are symptoms of underlying political and social-economic problems that need to be addressed. The middle-east was always politically unstable since we broke up the Ottoman Empire in 1920. But the violence was limited as long as the economy was able to provide employment for the majority of the population. What we have had since the 1990s is the rise of globalism and the erosion of middle-class jobs, especially in the countries that have failed to diversify their economies and encourage innovation. The combination of economic pressure and lack of legitimate political structures has caused a perfect storm in which organisations such as ISIS can thrive.

      • The power vacuum only exist because we're too soft to occupy. The vacuum occurs only if you leave.
        As you say it was stable under the Ottoman empire, because they took over and kept it, America needs to do the same thing. The US, Canada, Australia, NZ were all British colonies, but the difference is the white people never left, so they remain beacons of progress. Hate to sound all racist here, but there is a strong correlation between those and African, Middle Eastern states that were given back.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by gtall ( 79522 )

      Actually, it is very much about religion. At its core, Daesh is a religious movement for control of Islam. The Koran backs much of what they do. Islam never had a reformation like Christianity and Judaism. The latter have effectively jettisoned those parts of "scripture" which are just plain wicked. In essence, humanity has triumphed over religion in those two cases (i.e., the Greeks won). Islam has never had a reformation. And it doesn't appear likely it will anytime soon because anyone attempting it is us

  • Ah (Score:3, Insightful)

    by cascadingstylesheet ( 140919 ) on Sunday March 22, 2015 @04:03PM (#49314803) Journal

    OK, now can we admit its not a "religion of peace"?

    (quick, mod him down, he said something we don't like! Plus all religions are equally evil - Presbyterians are just itchin to shop off some heads! Plus, wascally wepubwicans!)

  • PC mush heads still don't get it.

  • So ISIS wants to kill US soldiers? Wow! Holy shit! Clearly this is a surprising development!

  • ... not of us, but of them. ISIS is sort of like an extremely virulent infection. It is really bad if you get it, but it kills so fast that the patient dies before the infection has time to spread much, and it has EVERYBODY working to exterminate it. At the moment, all of the batshit crazy teenagers filled with Islamic Angst are heading ISIS-ward to be indoctrinated and (one supposes) employed eventually as suicide bombers. The only problem is, it requires a special kind of crazy to become a suicide bomber or fatwah-murderer, and the world has a finite supply of that kind of crazy. The other problem is that collecting all of the nut-cases in one place makes it comparatively easy to (eventually) hit them with the moral equivalent of an antibiotic.

    The only thing that I can see ISIS accomplishing is -- eventually -- convincing the moderate Islamic world that it is better to be an atheist (or at worst, any other religionist) than to be Muslim. Pakistan made a major play in that direction yesterday when the woman was beaten and then burned to death for allegedly burning the Quran. It publicly stated that it was wrong for the public to have killed this woman for burning the Quran -- only it (the government) got to prosecute and then murder the woman for burning the Quran. It never occurred to them that it might be absolutely insane to murder somebody, ever, for burning a book that you bought, paid for, and own. Especially a violent, psychotic, hate-filled document like the Quran. Or a violent, psychotic, hate-filled document like the Bible (either part). Or any religious text, violent, psychotic, and hate-filled or not. Or a copy of Dirac's Quantum Mechanics (although there it might arguably be an act of criminal stupidity).

    I'm tempted to go out and burn a Quran myself out of sheer sympathy and in protest and in support of freedom of speech and freedom of (and from!) religion. But first I'd have to buy a copy of the Quran, and who wants to reward the idiots who publish it? So I just bring up copies of the Skeptics Annotated Quran on my browser and then -- wait for it -- close the browser window. Just like that, I make my current copy of the Quran disappear, even worse than just burning it. Over and over again. I may even write a script to copy an online version of it and overwrite it repeatedly with random numbers. Some people are so very, very, 17th century clueless about information.

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