Enlightenment 0.16.0 Release 159
Mandrake writes "Enlightenment 0.16.0 came out this afternoon. Come play with what we've been toiling over for the past few months. Lots of new features from 0.15 - come check it out. Maybe now we can go and get some sleep. If you are at Atlanta Linux Showcase this week, we've even got shirts to hand out."
Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:1)
Version numbers (Score:2)
Version numbers in open source projects do not mean the same thing as they do in closed source projects. I found that very often the version number of a closed source product is akin to one's penis size: heh heh, my version number is bigger than yours'. Vendors bump up version X.0 to version X+1.0 solely because they want to leave an impression that the new release contains major changes and new features, instead of what it really is, most of the time: a couple of bug fixes.
Open source projects have no need for this, and thus the version numbers are often just a reflection of the developer's mood. One of my own projects is currently at version 0.73, even though I feel that it is as stable as anything you'd find on a production machine. Yup, I did find a bug earlier this week, so I bumped up version 0.72 to 0.73, end of story. That's all (shrug).
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If all you've been using is E, (Score:2)
- "What are you doing?"
- "Waiting for Englightenment"
has been the running joke about starting up E for quite some time.
Yeah it looks pretty cool, but the heavily pixmapped themes are pretty bloody expensive (along with just about everything else).
If you want raw speed and lightweight, use fvwm. It flies on a 486, where Windows feels slow (and is a major memory hog).
If you want a nice compromise, try Sawmill (current favorite of the GNOME hackers) or WindowMaker. They run quite fast, and are nice and lightweight.
Eterm problem? (Score:1)
Enlightenment on SGI? (Score:2)
Re:Key Configuration? (Score:1)
Re:Eterm problem? (Score:1)
fix (Score:1)
--bsDaemon
Re:Enlightenment on SGI? (Score:1)
Re:Dockapps (Score:1)
Absolutely. Actually, the dockapp support has been in since 0.15.x. As well, there is a new API that raster's been working on for enlightenment-enhanced dockapps (epplets).
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Re:There is. (Score:1)
Color Modifiers Are Still Broke? (Score:1)
Re:OT: how to run X without gobs of memory (Score:3)
Try mixing and matching GUI components and build your own interface. If you've got the time, of course. Run a lightweight window manager, Sawmill (I forget the URL), WindowMaker [windowmaker.org], or a few others. WindowMaker has KDE hooks, I don't know about SawMill, never used it, but I hear it's excellent. Pick a good file manager, there are several lightweight ones out there. A search of "file managers" at google.com/linux presents a good start. Pick a "launcher" of sorts, like the Gnome Panel or KDE's thingy... I forget what they call it. Netscape's a hog regardless, but it will run, try getting navigator only and have a seperate email app.
It can be done. On a 75MHz pentium I had a quick desktop, but the standard Gnome and KDE just about choked on it, so I made my own. Here's a list of what I consider important in a GUI for users that pretty much just use what you throw at them:
That's a short list... by no means definitive. But if you can find a combo of these things and put them together, you can create a pretty good GUI out of these bits and pieces that may run. That's the best thing about Gnome and KDE, they let you pick and choose between the two, for the most part. No, you won't get a full-fledged GUI, but you can come pretty close.
Hope this helps a little...
Re: Win95 GUI (Score:2)
I can't remember the last time X crashed. And while the standard way for clients to use the X server is on the slow side, to prove network transparency (a feature I rely on every day), there are ways to get around the slowness -- X shared memory, and direct framebuffer access. Both of these are available to apps that really need them.
I have to say I would like to see better speed on the part of GLX. My Ultra2 is noticably slower under Linux than under windows, due to the architecture of the GLX Xserver/GL extensions.
E is good stuff (Score:1)
It starts up nice and fast and has all the features I want (new icon tray and screen capture pagers... oooh... ahhh...) Oh, and it looks real purty, even with 256 colours.
Of course, I like E because you knock the socks off of every windows user who happens to notice your desktop
Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:1)
With lynx supporting graphics at console the only thing I need X for is raplayer now.
Good job! (Score:1)
Enlightenment and am looking forward to playing
with all the features in the new version!
Re:Enlightenment on SGI? (Score:1)
I guess I'll have to grab GCC and get compiling, I was just hoping someone would beat me to it and spare me the effort.
Re:Stable?!? (Score:1)
I would definately NOT use Linux for it. I love Linux too, but not for Java development...
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Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:3)
For example, if I compare my GUI in Linux(enlightenmend) to the GUI in Windows, Windows has a much more mature design. Even on my 350 Mhz, Enlightenment can get very choppy, and dragging a windows can bog down the entire system, while Windows GUI functions are much more transparent. This doesn't say anything about the rest of the OS, but for the mainstream, GUI is a large part of what matters.
Lets hope the new version is a step up, not a step down.
#e (Score:2)
Re:Where's the desktop OS? (Score:1)
*cough* *cough* The Start Menu was a radical innovation? I remember thinking when it first came out, "Gosh, now I have a menu that's around all the time, so I can drop apps in it and have them easily accessible at all times like I've been doing with the Apple menu on my Mac for over half a decade!" But that's par for the course -- throughout the 80's and early 90's, innovations came to the PC world about 5 years behind when the appeared in the Mac world. Then Apple stagnated. Don't know why. System 7 was awesome when it first came out, but it got really embarrasing to be still running it 7 years later with virtually no change in it.
The one and only innovation I ever liked from Windows (and that seemed to truly be an innovation, but for all I know it was somewhere else first and I just don't know about it) was the right-click context menus. Now THOSE I've found to be truly useful...
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Update (Score:1)
Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:1)
The upshot is that the linux console is so quick and powerful that I rarely need to use the GUI. I only use it for complex/picture websites and gAIM. (I wish there was an aim client for the console in debian.)
Andrew
Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:1)
Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:1)
That being said, E is still one of the slower and larger window managers out there, but also one of the most powerful, and nicest looking.
typos in the press release (Score:1)
All companies and trademarks are copyright by their respecitve owners. Linux is a trademark of Linux torvalds.
I mean, come on guys...that just doesn't look good at all.
I don't get it (Score:4)
I found no way to keep Windows from thrashing madly every time you change applications; there's no way to fit that much stuff into memory. Those are 2 of the most bloated apps for Win95.
Similarly, Netscape and KDE are some of the most bloated apps for X. On the 16 meg machines, I used fvwm2, which helped a lot. There's no way around Netscape (I detest it, but need it
You're still going to get some thrashing, but things should improve. Also, go through and kill stuff that doesn't need to be running. No dock apps, no panels (just a root menu should suffice), no extra daemons.
The truth is, if you want the flashy graphics stuff you're going to have to pay. I don't find Gtk+ (I happen to use GNOME) any slower than the Win95 GUI, but I don't find it any faster or smaller either. But the great thing about Linux is its modularity; you can build a solution that leaves out the extraneous stuff, resulting in a much friendlier experience on old hardware.
Re:Recent quality issues? (Score:1)
Re:cool (Score:1)
look at the documentation (middle click on the desktop and go to Help) there's a section on configuring menus
Re:How come my apps don't get on /.? (Score:1)
um... you might be misinformed. (Score:1)
I'm tempted to call this post a flamebait, but I'm pretty sure that he just hasn't used E in a long time. Every time there's a new version, the speed increases.
um... (Score:2)
Mog the Moogle
E is very theme dependent. (Score:2)
That said, to me many themes in E are works of art. They aren't meant to be functional. If you want good performance out of E get a simple and functional theme. Recognize that not evey theme out there is meant for real work - particularly if your computer is slow.
Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:1)
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Re:Where's the desktop OS? (Score:1)
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Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:1)
Okay, it helps that this is running on a Celeron550MHz/128MB...but E looks better than Win98 regardless.
Re:Where's the desktop OS? (Score:1)
Heh. I always figured Micros~1 got the idea from somewhere, I just never knew where before. Thanks...
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Re:Stable?!? (Score:1)
If you reread the post you're replying to, you'll see I said I wouldn't want to do Java development on anything but a SPARC. As far as running Java goes, there are plenty of decent VM's out there for many different platforms...
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Things that are sooo much better with 0.16 (Score:4)
Raster did an extremely good job making the sounds for BrushedMetal. Mandrake told me one night about how he has this fetish for "odd clicky sounds"..
the KDE support rocks my world. (I'm using KDE 1.1.2 with E 0.16, and it's an *ahem* enlightening experience. did I mention it runs flawlessly?
it runs faster. partially because of BrushedMetal, but also because the speed has increased during each CVS update I made... and I'm on a p133/32MB RAM, so I can tell a larger speed increase than you can.
the menus are a bit more intuitive, they're not as good as windowmaker yet, but by 0.17, this is going to be as easy to use as KDE/mac... even theming will be done via a widget, a-la KDE2.0.
the extremely fast pager. I used the pager from 0.13, and it was dog slow. I can't even notice a speed decrease from disabling it, so I know it's not eating many resources.
tho I've seen bugs pop up in E (not from my own experiences, but from people on the mailing list), but they're fixed/solved completely.
Note: if someone could help us with the memory leak that occurs with Color Modifiers, I know we'd all be grateful. it's driving everyone insane...
the dockapp abilities are quite good, if not what you would expect. Let's just say that they don't work the same way that windowmaker/afterstep's work.
All in all, this is an extremely solid and fast window manager. When 0.17 comes out, this is going to be one of the "Killer Apps" of the X/*nix world. be sure to keep up on E, as it's only going to get better.
RE: Enlightenment (Score:1)
i read in Linux Journal (forget wihich issue...probabaly August 1999) that E doesn't fall into exact categories of wm. eg: kde-highly integrated wm, wm2-lightweight, fvwm2-highly configurable. E had several features from other wm and plus other. still, i do not use E. reason?
for me...first impresion is everything. the fist time i got my E, it is too dark (the backgroud, the side bar, the font) compose of colors that near color of black. i dump it without second thought. even after visiting sites that provide the numerous theme for E, it just doesn't interest me. right now i'm sticking to icewm. icewm doesn't have the quality that i like but it will do for now.
this doesn't mean that i bad mouth E. it got qualities that others wm neglect. the themes for E is very interesting compare to other wm. but E need more than that to get me in using one.
Re:cool (Score:1)
Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:1)
Sorry... it was OK in preview (NT) (Score:1)
I swear it was perfectly OK in the preview.
just say NO to fvwm95 (Score:1)
I would go with windowmaker in this situation. You can build a pretty cool environment: make buttons for the applications that you need, and associate icons with them (if necessary).
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Re:Two questions: (Score:1)
Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:1)
i feel much more comfortable using the win95 GUI than using enlightenment, but this may just be a lack of experience. but i like windowmaker better than both of them.
fast or slow? (Score:3)
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Man is most nearly himself when he achieves the seriousness of a child at play.
The most important question... (Score:1)
Re: Enlightenment (Score:1)
I would disagree completely. (Score:2)
On the mailing list, I've seen people submit patches, suggest grammatical changes, ask for features, question design aspects, and so on. Raster and Mandrake have basically responded to everything.
Enlightenment is a very graphical hack, but polish has not been set aside. Mandrake just wrote a help system (loads the first time you run E to help first-timers), bugs are always dealt with whenever discovered, many usability improving features like the iconbox and pager, work on Imlib2 which should improve speed significantly (according to Rasterman), and work on a new filemanager. There's more but my point should have been made.
To sum it up, I see Enlightenment improving in just about every way including its polish.
Regards,
Andy
Re:just say NO to fvwm95 (Score:1)
Another non-/.ed (Score:1)
ftp.enlighte.nu
This ones working fine for me. Good Luck!
Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:1)
Re: Enlightenment (Score:1)
How sad!
You're not even prepared to go right-click, Themes, Ice in order to make it look palatable? How long does your Icewm config stay looking like its default? If you've configured it at all, you've been unfair in dismissing E because of a non-wonderful default.
And of course, I find E considerably more configureable and friendly than ice, but that's just me - and I've actually played around with it for a while, too...
Where's the desktop OS? (Score:2)
But enough about Amiga. I was asking where the desktop OS was. Really, where is it? Making cool looking GUI things is ok, but what are you going to put it onto? Linux sure needs a lot of work before it can become a desktop operating system, so why not focus on that, instead of on the cool looking GFX. I know, it's probably a lot more boring, but who IS making Linux better suited for the desktop at the moment? It needs to be a lot faster (booting, GUI-feedback, that kind of areas). I hope it is not going to be just forgotten, or we'll end up with something of a Microsoft taste: fat, sluggish and narrow-focussed. We don't want that, now do we?
Re:just say NO to fvwm95 (Score:1)
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E no run on Solaris (Score:1)
From personal experience, E on Solaris (2.5 and 2.6) is slow, extremely buggy, and crashes very, very, very, often. I hope 0.16 bucks this trend.
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Re:ftp.enlightenment.org is currently ./ed (Score:1)
There are a few mirrors to enlightnment. Just open their home page and click on download. There are several mirrors listed.
Sean Long
we need ALL configs available via GUI (Score:1)
What we need to make Linux mainstream in terms of graphical user interface, is ALL configuration options available via a standard interface. Whether this is available from a "standard" distribution (aka RedHat or whatever) or a default linux X-config interface, is moot. The root of the problem lies in the fact that there are few standard configuration frontends that can configure the entire OS with a single interface.
Microsoft has gone almost as far as the redhat configuration tool, but there still some distance to go. A single standard interface to all configurations is a holy grail we should be reaching for. I'm just a USER so my opinion can be discounted appropriately, but users worldwide are looking for a single button they can click on that will let them set up or configure any feature or service regardless of window manager or OS GUI interface.
That said, I'm limited to make config because I'm too stupid to understand the error messages printed after the first (and only) time I ever use make menuconfig on any given system.
Re:... (Score:1)
Re:fast or slow? (Score:1)
I have a windows machine at 16 meg ram that is barely suitable for it's job, while my linux box with enlightment with 128 meg ram is running just fine. A relative measure of system resource effiencicy might help those who are resource limited.
With 128 meg ram (bought when 128 meg PC-100 SDRAM was ~$99) enlightment is very suitable.
Win GUI (Score:1)
Well, yes and no. Windows isn't out of the box themeable, but there are third party solutions available. There are also virtual desktops available.
For example, there is a port of Afterstep to Windows called Litestep (I don't have a decent URL to post... you can try Litestep.net [litestep.net] but it seems to be dead) which will give you virtual desktops.
Stardock has a product called Windowblinds which will skin titlebars, window borders, menus and buttons (not scroll bars or progress bars yet) as well as allowing translucency and bitmap backgrounds for explorer windows. They also have IconPackager (theme manager for icons) and Control Center (virtual desktops and app launcher [kind of like CDE bar or KDE bar). You can learn more at their web site [stardock.com].
Actually it's XFree (Score:1)
ps. I've been using the cvs E
Re:Where's the desktop OS? (Score:1)
relating all this to Enlightenment though (to avoid being branded off-topic
el bobo
Re:I would disagree completely. (Score:1)
The biggest problem with E is that you go through 2 hours of library upgrades before you can
ftp.enlightenment.org is currently ./ed (Score:1)
This is almost as bad as downloading the pre.6 the night before to wake to find the finished version out.....
Anyway, I have used the delopment and pre-release versions, and E16 does rocks, so anyone reading this should go get it (if they can) NOW!
Re:OT: how to run X without gobs of memory (Score:2)
Well, that certainly hasn't been my experience, especially not with IE4 / IE5. AFAIK 32MB is recommended for Office 97.
But if what you want is a simple, locked-down environment, you don't need to bother with KDE. You could use a small, fast window manager like icewm with a Win95-style look-and-feel. (But avoid fvwm95 like the plague.) KDE is more useful for the users on the next rung of the ladder, who want to open file manager windows, drag things around, configure their own screensaver and so on. You can run KDE applications without having the whole KDE environment running. You could also try editing the 'startkde' script (or whatever) to stop loading the root window manager, sound server and other unneeded stuff. (Mine just loads kfm, kcontrol -init, kpanel and kwm.)
Also, remember that KDE comes with its own web browser (integrated into the file manager in a very Redmondian kind of way), so you might not need Netscape.
Finally, to improve performance in general, try using a 2.2 kernel and a distribution like Stampede or (IIRC) Mandrake which is Pentium-optimized. (You are using 586es, right?)
Wharf like app in E? (Score:1)
Re:E no run on Solaris (Score:1)
Another strange thing is that file.menu is not automatically created on my Solaris boxes. On my Linux boxes that works without problems.
Re:"Enlightenment"? (Score:1)
--JT
"Enlightenment"? (Score:4)
Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:5)
I've got no problems whatsoever with the way Enlightenment performs on my system, and have found it at least as responsive as Windows. I'd say it's even better, but that's hard to guage accurately (especially not having run Windows on anything for close to a year now).
On a side note, E 0.16 rocks. I've been grabbing it from CVS since 0.15 came out, and I'm really impressed with the how new features have turned out, and really look forward to the stuff that's planned so far for 0.17. I highly recommend giving this release a shot.
Thanks to Mandrake, Raster, and the whole rest of the AUTHORS file for one hell of a kick-ass desktop!
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pre 1.0 (Score:1)
Patrick Barrett
Yebyen@adelphia.net
An example of a successful Open Source project (Score:1)
cool (Score:1)
OT: how to run X without gobs of memory (Score:3)
What am I doing wrong? (More interestingly, what should I be doing?) How do I squeeze usability out of old hardware, when most of the users barely can use Win32?
Recent quality issues? (Score:1)
Thoughts?
Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:2)
It's still cool, though.
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E 16 (Score:1)
Enlightenment is good for Linux (Score:1)
The problem with most windowmanagers, like WindowMaker, AfterStep, and desktop environments like KDE and GNOME, are that they try too much to *look* like Windows or NextStep or whatever, which is wrong, I think.
Yes, it's important to give the user the choice to make their environment to look like they want it, whether it is WIndows, Mac, OS/2 or NextStep.
And yes, if I were to set up a Linux box for my admin, I would probably give her a Windows look for the GUI. But the default Linux GUI look should be distinct from those other boxes.
That said, I haven't been using Enlightenment since 0.14, mostly because all the configuration changed between 0.14 and 0.15, and I just had better things to do than learning how to setup Enlightenment.
That's one of the things that bugs me about OS software, I guess. Weak documentation, and hard to configure (although forgivable for Enlightenment since it's still in alpha, but unforgivable in GNOME since it went 1.0 months ago).
Well, enough of my rants...
Re:How come my apps don't get on /.? (Score:1)
Muhahahah. No, seriously, Taco was a regular member of #e before he got too busy with slashdot, so I guess it's an old time thing.
Impressing Windoze users/Check boxes and Radio... (Score:1)
Also, looking at the screenshots on their site... I notice that check boxes and radio buttons look the exact same when un-checked. Possibly confusing for the user.
- James Schend
Re:pre 1.0 (Score:1)
Seriously, this is obviously complete bullshit you are trying ro inflict on
Sad.
Re:Dockapps (Score:1)
I used some dockapps with wm2
Fast east coast US mirror of E 0.16 (Score:3)
Mirrored are the tarball, the RPM, and the source RPM.
anon FTP-> 152.2.174.242 port 29
Re:Importance of Enlightenment (Score:1)
As was noted by another poster, the file_menu stuff doesn't work currently under solaris...but that was a recent change in one of the 0.16 pre releases.
If I can ever connect to ftp.enlightenment.org, I'll download 0.16 and try it out. (Using 0.16.pre5 right now).
AGHH BUG :( (Score:1)
I start it up, and everything looks beautiful.
I click around.
hey, that's funny. where is the program menu?
"right click on the background for the user menu" they say.
Hmm doesn't work
so I had to edit my
How can you miss not being able to do anything in X? Does anyone else use E without GNOME?
Re:pre 1.0 (Score:1)
Re:Stable?!? (Score:1)
Except for one early pre 0.16 CVS build I tried, E has run flawlessly for me since 0.15.0. Now the only WM that crashes on me is that weird "explorer.exe" program (in both 95/98 and NT, except NT restarts it cleanly, so except for the icons and toolbar flickering, you never notice)
Anti-Aliasing!! (Score:4)
E 0.16 has Anti-Aliasing in its titlebars via its built-in truetype font renderer. All that you need is a font which supports Anti-Aliasing and the theme to use E's TTF engine instead of X's.
Really cool. Hopefully we'll see more anti-aliasing soon enough. E now has support for epplets, which are like dockapps, and as far as I can tell, this version is actually somewhat faster... check it out. Also, this may be the last release before E becomes a desktop environment instead of a window manger. DR17 may have an E file manager... we'll see. For us GNOME users, there is now Sawmill (), which is shaping up nicely and will hopefully remain as fast as it is while getting a few more features... check that out if you want a light window manager for GNOME. br/=; Julianbr/=; [warwick.ac.uk]Re:Lets hope it doesn't follow the trend... (Score:2)
i use window maker, which is quite configurable (in a "feel" sense), though it's not as visually morphing as enlightenment is. if you want something that's lighter, i would suggest window maker wholeheartedly.
while i admit the win95 GUI is faster and more stable, there are many things wrong with it. it's not nearly as configurable as most x11 GUIs, in both of a visual and feel sense. it only has one "workspace" or "virtual window" or "layer" or whatever you want to call it. and of course since it's "integrated" into the OS, if it crases, so does your computer.
but the point is, if enlightment isn't for you, that doesn't mean anything against linux. that's the beauty of linux. just pick a different GUI! (or of course the standard line "write your own!").
Re:Recent quality issues? (Score:3)
Sure, E's got its "cool graphical hacks" -- that's part of what makes it different, and I suspect they'll be a large part of E's development for the foreseeable future (and I like it that way)... But under the hood, they've done a lot of work to keep it stable, and it shows on my system.
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Release Notes (Score:3)
Not much info on what's new & updated though, it's mainly just thanks to various people and organizations.
There is a list of features, but there's no annotation as to what is new.
Re:Stable?!? (Score:2)
If Java *crashes* E because E can't handle a malformed ICCCM hint, then E simply can't run Java, period. I've completely given up on Java development on Linux BTW. I'm tired of waiting for the stable version of the latest Java RSN. My latest kick is JPython (even though I'm not a huge fan of python), but I do all my hacking with it on my Solaris box at work (and play Homeworld on my windoze box at home).
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Not bad. (Score:3)
I used to hate Enlightenment. I thought it was way too slow, way too oriented around the eyecandy, and too surrounded by some weird fanboy culture (which wouldn't keep me from using it, but did keep me from admitting to it.)
During my explorations of Gnome, I warmed to E a little, largely thanks to Red Hat's reasonably conservative defaults, which made it seem less intrusive and reminded me of its underlying configurability.
Now that they've worked support for KDE into the mix, along with support for Gnome, along with some reasonably functional standalone features, I'm really impressed and pleased. This release marks Enlightenment truly coming into its own.
A perusal of e.themes.org reveals there's still a general obsession with "industrial" themage, but that's not a real showstopper. There are also some fairly pleasant, non-headache inducing, non-urban decay invoking themes. I can even play my Run Lola Run soundtrack without feeling like a total Sprocket.
I'll be monkeying around with the menu configs (cursed two button mouse that I never get around to replacing), but I'm pretty sure the versatility alone in regards to Gnome and KDE support will keep me as a user this time.
Congratulations to the team. You've taken a lot of abuse and derision in the past, but the product is catching up with the vision and it's worth it.
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Michael Hall
mphall@cstone.nospam.net
e rocks but... (Score:3)
Re:How come my apps don't get on /.? (Score:2)
Importance of Enlightenment (Score:2)
as a desktop, Enlightenment is very important.
It combines the usability, speed, and flashiness
that users would generally look for. Best of all,
it looks far nice than Windows.
However, in terms of personal use, I ran
0.15.5 for a while, but I've gone back to
a very old standby: VTWM. It isn't flasy,
it isn't very pretty, but it's fast, and I've
found that I get work done better when I don't
have all the chrome and glitz.
Having said that, once the port is updated,
I'm going to give 0.16 a whirl. Enlightenment
0.15.5 has always been rock solid on FreeBSD,
and very easy to build out of ports.
I salute Mandrake, Rasterman, and anybody else
working on E's excellent work. A consistent
GUI across various Unix platforms (I've used E
on Linux and FreeBSD; I bet it'd run on Solaris
without any real trouble) is key to keeping
Unix a serious contender on the desktop.