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Wine 1.0 — Uncorked After 15 Years

Posted by timothy on Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:58 PM
from the flows-freely dept.
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pshuke writes "After 15 years of development, Wine version 1.0 has been released. Wine is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API on top of X, OpenGL, and Unix. While perfect windows compatibility has not yet been achieved, full support for Photoshop CS2, Excel Viewer 2003, Word Viewer 2003 and PowerPoint Viewer 2003 have been among the goals prior to the release. For further information about supported applications, head over to the appdb. Get it (source) while it's hot."

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Last week, after 15 years of development, tempered by the need for arduous reverse engineering, the WINE project released version 1.0. What "1.0" means for WINE is neither that the project is finished, nor that it is perfect, but rather that the software runs a small subset of specific freely downloadable Windows applications. That's not to say it doesn't run scads of others, too -- the apps database is proof that thousands of programs run to at least some degree. Here's your chance to ask WINE developer Jeremy White and WINE project lead Alexandre Julliard (both of Codeweavers) about the future of WINE, or any other questions about the project that cross your mind. The usual Slashdot interview rules apply; please ask as many questions as you'd like, but limit yourself to one question per post. We'll pass on the best questions to Jeremy and Alexandre for their answers.
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  • Office 2007 runs on Wine 1.0 too. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Ash-Fox (726320) on Tuesday June 17, @01:01PM (#23825339) Homepage
    By deleting the incomplete msxml dlls and setting winecfg's settings to use the native versions, then installing microsoft xml..

    You can install and run Microsoft Office 2007.

    I do find it a little disappointing that Wine didn't set getting Office 2007 working out of the box as a goal for 1.0, as it really currently just relies upon finishing two DLLs.

  • Perfect windows compatibility? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by nurb432 (527695) on Tuesday June 17, @01:02PM (#23825365) Homepage Journal
    Even Microsoft cant do that between versions.

    Not slighting them in the least as they have done a Herculean task to get to this point, but i do wish they had made the actual MS office suite a requirement for 1.0, not just the viewers.

  • Next step is to ship this with Linux UMPCs (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Animats (122034) on Tuesday June 17, @01:02PM (#23825381) Homepage

    The next step is to encourage the makers of UMPCs to ship Wine with their units. Then users can run some of their legacy apps on the sub-$500 machines.

  • Obviously, sooner is better for actual use; but releasing it on June 30th [microsoft.com] would have been more amusing.
  • Don't forget the main commercial sponsor CodeWeavers [codeweavers.com]. Alexandre Julliard, one of the leading developers of Wine, now works for them. Their main product is CrossoverOffice, which regularly snapshots the Wine branch and then does bugfixing on it. Then they charge $40 for a solid and stable version, and include a GUI to make installing IE and other applications a cinch.

    It's a small shop and very sympathetic. They also read Slashdot. Jeremy, the CEO, is active here as user jeremy_white [slashdot.org]. Befriend him [slashdot.org] to let his comments show up as +5.

    Disclaimer: I'm just a happy customer since version 4 (about 5 years ago).

  • Great, something to download (Score:5, Funny)

    by mgiuca (1040724) on Tuesday June 17, @01:08PM (#23825531)
    while I wait for you bastards to stop hammering poor mozilla.com.

  • Get it while it's hot? (Score:5, Funny)

    by JKFLBOB (1236488) on Tuesday June 17, @01:15PM (#23825749)
    I dunno...Personally, I like my wine at room temperature.

  • winehq slashdotted (Score:5, Funny)

    by damn_registrars (1103043) on Tuesday June 17, @01:34PM (#23826205) Journal
    Hmm, their webserver appears to be having trouble keeping up with the traffic.

    I wonder if they were running IIS through wine to serve the page?

    • uTorrent already does, last time I checked.

      I was debugging a Half-Life crash once and I noticed it checks the registry for Wine keys while starting up, probably for compatibility hacks.

    • Re:What will interest me is (Score:5, Interesting)

      by QBasicer (781745) on Tuesday June 17, @01:25PM (#23826001) Homepage Journal
      uTorrent does, and lists Wine first.

    • Re:What will interest me is (Score:5, Interesting)

      by TheNetAvenger (624455) on Tuesday June 17, @01:29PM (#23826091)
      how many applications will state "Designed for Windows XP, Vista, and Wine 1.0" as a supported platform. That will be the metre stick for success IMHO

      Quite a few in the non-commerical areana already do list Wine/XP/Vista etc...

      However,Wine may be a little late to the game. Virtualization will give us all the features we once needed Wine for if done properly.

      The other problem with Wine is the evolution of the Win32/64 API, and how it is slowly being replaced. Vista API technologies are not even on the radar, and have the potential to shake up the next generation of application development. (Search Channel9 on WPF .NET 3.5 SP1 for some interesting demos of how far WPF has already gone in just a year.)

      Microsoft sees a movement away from Win32 before too long, and even current applciations a lot of developers are working on projects that stretch from generic Win32 to fully hybrind Win32/WPF/DirectX all in one application.

      If Virtualiation doesn't solve the divide, we still have Wine and Mono, and for any future, some of the backend of the current Linux kernel will need to extend to handle hardware with the same levels of abstraction, or shoving DX to OpenGL will not be enough when some of the core aspects of WPF is based around 3D UI that uses aspects of the OS to schedule and manage the 3D aspects so that two applications don't fight for 3D GPU resources, and currently only Vista's design allows for this.

      (Didn't mean for this post to go negative, as there is a congrats to the Wine peeps in order, and even if Wine translation doesn't last forever is meeting a lot of people's needs now.)

      • Re:What will interest me is (Score:5, Insightful)

        by SirMeliot (864836) on Tuesday June 17, @01:12PM (#23825633)

        And of course such a program would be pointless anyway. If 'Designed For Windows' apps don't work under Wine then Wine itself has failed its objective.

        • Not really (Score:5, Interesting)

          by an.echte.trilingue (1063180) on Tuesday June 17, @01:37PM (#23826291) Homepage

          And of course such a program would be pointless anyway. If 'Designed For Windows' apps don't work under Wine then Wine itself has failed its objective.

          IIRC, Wine's objective is to give software vendors a set of libraries to compile their Windows software against so that it will run under Linux, not necessarily run all windows software natively in Linux. The idea is that if it is so simple to do, people like Adobe will release a Linux version of Photoshop compiled against Wine.

          So actually, getting products to say that they are "compatible with Wine 1.0" is the goal. That is also the reason that they are releasing: it gives vendors a stable branch to work with.

      • Re:What will interest me is (Score:5, Funny)

        by MighMoS (701808) on Tuesday June 17, @01:35PM (#23826237)
        Wine doesn't have a logo? I'd send you a link, but the website is down. Oh wait! All I had to do was scroll up to see it ON SLASHDOT!

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