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Only One Quarter of the Planet To Be Online By 2012
Posted by
CmdrTaco
on Thursday June 26, @09:23AM
from the that's-not-really-that-much dept.
from the that's-not-really-that-much dept.
Stony Stevenson writes "Researchers are predicting that one quarter of the world's population will be connected to the internet within the next four years. According to the report by Jupiter Research, the total number of people online will climb to 1.8 billion by 2012, encompassing roughly 25 percent of the planet. The company sees the highest growth rates in areas such as China, Russia, India and Brazil. Overall, the number of users online is predicted to grow by 44 percent in the time period between 2007 and 2012." Is it just me or does that seem incredibly small?
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It may be small... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:It may be small... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:It may be small... (Score:5, Interesting)
OK, I'm going to go completely outside the box for a moment and risk getting mocked for this, but what the hell...
What if we did get people without food and clean water online?
There is enough clean water for everyone. There is enough food for everyone. It isn't getting to the people that need it for various reasons; corruption, war, market failures. The common thread in these is a lack of correct information; corruption involves people deliberately misrepresenting information, war makes it dangerous to collect information, and market failures are normally trigged by bad information.
Areas where people starve are normally pretty opaque to information and that makes it harder to help people. If we were to give people in these areas better means of communication might it help allocate resources to solving the problems of food, water etc? It would be similar to how mobile phones were used to let the world know what was happening in Burma not long ago. Better information means better action.
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Re:It may be small... (Score:4, Interesting)
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Re:It may be small... (Score:4, Insightful)
How do you keep the lines of communications open against the opposition of either the local warlord or whoever represents legitimate - centralized - authority? It can shorten your life to be in possession of a radio. The mesh network has the potential to expose everyone who is part of the mesh.
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Re:It may be small... (Score:4, Insightful)
You are right about the military being able to set up advanced communications in a war zone but I doubt those systems are meant to stay for very long. It is a noble goal, but there are goals that should be reached first. The Internet is a luxury, not a basic necessity. Once the basic necessities are taken care of in a place, only then can we consider helping them acquire luxuries.
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Re:It may be small... (Score:5, Insightful)
Try moving to a more abundant farming area, whose inhabitants look upon you as an outsider who is muscling in on their scarce resources.
Try moving from a rural existence, where your food comes from your labours, to the city, where you must buy your food with money. (Where unskilled labour is dirt cheap.
Try getting a passport without spending a large amount of money.
Try getting a visa to Europe or US if you come from Africa.
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.
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Re:It may be small... (Score:5, Funny)
Interesting saying. I'd guess most of those people don't even have shoes.
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Re:It may be small... (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously! Doesn't anyone read the news? Most of the world's population lives in abject poverty compared to western standards. All you need to is see that pic of the world at night from space - lights visible in the US, Europe, Japan and a few scattered major cities - everything else is dark.
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Re:It may be small... (Score:5, Insightful)
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1.8 Billion with a B (Score:4, Insightful)
Seriously, it's just you.
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Is it just me... (Score:5, Insightful)
... or do you not realize how poor most of the planet is?
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Re:Eee etc... (Score:4, Informative)
Most people in industrialized nations has access to TV today
There, fixed it for you.
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It is small, but... (Score:3, Insightful)
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Is it just me or does that seem incredibly small? (Score:5, Funny)
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Not small at all (Score:3, Insightful)
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It's not bad at all considering. (Score:5, Informative)
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25% of the Planet? (Score:5, Funny)
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yes, it's small (Score:3, Interesting)
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IPv4 (Score:3, Insightful)
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Not a fair normalization... (Score:3, Interesting)
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Illiteracy (Score:4, Informative)
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It's just you... (Score:5, Insightful)
Having lived in what is effectively a third world country, South African, for about 15 years, one thing is painfully obvious when compared with life in a first world country. The vast majority of people have little to no access to electricity, let alone the internet!
It's very hard to understand this unless you witness it first hand - it's all to easy to think "but surely everyone needs to be on the internet?"
The reality is for most of humanity, the struggle to put food on the plate and shelter themselves is the main driving force in their daily lives.
I'm therefore suprised at how many people are online, not how few - completely the opposite reaction to the parent.
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Tool or toy. (Score:4, Informative)
Firstly you need to think of how many third world countries there are and also developed nations where there is a vast agricultural society where the internet is just an irrelevant "fancy" for city dwellers to keep themselves entertained. You and I might find the internet a necessary tool for our trades and daily lives but going back 20 or 30 years, could you see yourself becoming so dependent on such a device as a people? Instant information and communication have become woven into the very fabric of who we are but there are many more people out there that simply have no use for it. It steals idle time like heroin steals life. You only need to walk away from it for a few days, or hours in some cases, to feel its draw. Many that have fell into its grasp cannot free themselves, their very livelihood depends on it. For others, the majority it seems, it is simply a useless tool or senseless toy to occupy the minds of those who have access to it. To them it's as useful as a canoe is to a desert goat herder.
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I predict... (Score:4, Informative)
that in 2008 only 50% of the planet will have a telephone.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_tel_sub-media-telephone-subscribers [nationmaster.com]
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