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Only One Quarter of the Planet To Be Online By 2012

Posted by CmdrTaco on Thursday June 26, @09:23AM
from the that's-not-really-that-much dept.
Stony Stevenson writes "Researchers are predicting that one quarter of the world's population will be connected to the internet within the next four years. According to the report by Jupiter Research, the total number of people online will climb to 1.8 billion by 2012, encompassing roughly 25 percent of the planet. The company sees the highest growth rates in areas such as China, Russia, India and Brazil. Overall, the number of users online is predicted to grow by 44 percent in the time period between 2007 and 2012." Is it just me or does that seem incredibly small?

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  • It may be small... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by scubamage (727538) on Thursday June 26, @09:24AM (#23947927)
    It does seem small, but you have to consider that most of the world doesn't live up to 'industrialized' and 'information age' standards of living. Its actually a pretty incredible number.
    • by defnoz (1128875) on Thursday June 26, @09:30AM (#23948017)
      In other news, 1/3 of the world's population don't have access to clean water and/or enough food. If only they could write about it in their blag.
      • by damburger (981828) on Thursday June 26, @09:58AM (#23948403)

        OK, I'm going to go completely outside the box for a moment and risk getting mocked for this, but what the hell...

        What if we did get people without food and clean water online?

        There is enough clean water for everyone. There is enough food for everyone. It isn't getting to the people that need it for various reasons; corruption, war, market failures. The common thread in these is a lack of correct information; corruption involves people deliberately misrepresenting information, war makes it dangerous to collect information, and market failures are normally trigged by bad information.

        Areas where people starve are normally pretty opaque to information and that makes it harder to help people. If we were to give people in these areas better means of communication might it help allocate resources to solving the problems of food, water etc? It would be similar to how mobile phones were used to let the world know what was happening in Burma not long ago. Better information means better action.

          • by damburger (981828) on Thursday June 26, @10:17AM (#23948721)
            Civilians in areas requiring aid could, if they were connected, report the movement of warlords (and as often, government troops) that might interrupt food shipments. Having lines of communication could also provide a way of verifying the contents of packages.
            • by westlake (615356) on Thursday June 26, @11:20AM (#23949727)
              Civilians in areas requiring aid could...report the movement of warlords...that might interrupt food shipments.

              How do you keep the lines of communications open against the opposition of either the local warlord or whoever represents legitimate - centralized - authority? It can shorten your life to be in possession of a radio. The mesh network has the potential to expose everyone who is part of the mesh.

            • by T-Bone-T (1048702) on Thursday June 26, @11:30AM (#23949903)

              You are right about the military being able to set up advanced communications in a war zone but I doubt those systems are meant to stay for very long. It is a noble goal, but there are goals that should be reached first. The Internet is a luxury, not a basic necessity. Once the basic necessities are taken care of in a place, only then can we consider helping them acquire luxuries.

        • by benwiggy (1262536) on Thursday June 26, @10:23AM (#23948803)
          I think you fail to understand how difficult it is to move out of the sort of extreme and dire poverty that persists in the world.
          Try moving to a more abundant farming area, whose inhabitants look upon you as an outsider who is muscling in on their scarce resources.
          Try moving from a rural existence, where your food comes from your labours, to the city, where you must buy your food with money. (Where unskilled labour is dirt cheap.
          Try getting a passport without spending a large amount of money.
          Try getting a visa to Europe or US if you come from Africa.

          Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.
    • by aurispector (530273) on Thursday June 26, @09:32AM (#23948055)

      Seriously! Doesn't anyone read the news? Most of the world's population lives in abject poverty compared to western standards. All you need to is see that pic of the world at night from space - lights visible in the US, Europe, Japan and a few scattered major cities - everything else is dark.

    • by cunamara (937584) on Thursday June 26, @09:40AM (#23948181) Homepage
      But then again, roughly one half of the Earth's population lives on $3 per day or less. I would imagine that their priorities aren't broadband and a laptop. Not dying today from malnutrition might rqank a little higher on their priorities.
  • Seriously, it's just you.

  • Is it just me... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by debest (471937) on Thursday June 26, @09:28AM (#23947979)

    ... or do you not realize how poor most of the planet is?

  • by tidewaterblues (784797) on Thursday June 26, @09:29AM (#23947993) Homepage
    Without seeing the survey I can't confirm this, but I would suspect that they are only counting Internet connections to the home or office. The number is much larger when you consider the number of people in developing and 3rd world nations who access the Internet in public venues, like cafes and libraries. But getting a good count here would be very complex.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 26, @09:29AM (#23947999)
    THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!
  • Not small at all (Score:3, Insightful)

    by elrous0 (869638) * on Thursday June 26, @09:29AM (#23948001)
    It's easy for us 1st world Westerners to forget what life is like most people in China, India, Africa, etc. Sure, things are getting better in those places, but that's only for the middle and upper class.
  • About one quarter of the world doesn't have electricity. (1.6 B according to IEA [iea.org], 2 B according to Greenpeace [greenpeace.org]).
  • by iTowelie (1118013) on Thursday June 26, @09:31AM (#23948029)
    Isn't that all of us? I thought the Earth was covered by 75% water? iT
  • yes, it's small (Score:3, Interesting)

    by xZgf6xHx2uhoAj9D (1160707) on Thursday June 26, @09:31AM (#23948037)
    According to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org], there are 1.407 billion people online in 2008. So they're predicting a 30% increase over 4 years? Considering in the 1990s we would have had a 1500% increase over 4 years (again, using Wikipedia as a source: 100% increase per year), that seems remarkably underwhelming.
  • IPv4 (Score:3, Insightful)

    by smitty97 (995791) on Thursday June 26, @09:31AM (#23948039)
    So then 4,294,967,296 addresses should be enough for everybody
  • by Orleron (835910) on Thursday June 26, @09:38AM (#23948143) Homepage
    The number of people online divided by the world's population is a not fair comparison. Think of all the infants and toddlers that aren't online because they are too young, or all the people who are too disabled to use the Internet. Even if you theoretically included the people who didn't have electricity or money to get onto the 'net in the calculation, it still doesn't make sense to include those who are otherwise not physically able to use a computer if they had one. I would like to see the percentage of people on the 'net relative to the number of people who CAN be on the yet, as in physically able.
  • Illiteracy (Score:4, Informative)

    by onosson (1107107) on Thursday June 26, @09:41AM (#23948189) Homepage
    I thank the overall literacy rate must be related to this - even abundant access to a computer won't mean much if you can't read. According to the OLPC website [laptop.org], "Most of the nearly twoâ"billion children in the developing world are inadequately educated, or receive no education at all. One in three does not complete the fifth grade." Also, let's not forget that much of the world does not have access to electricity on a regular basis. Also from the OLPC website [laptop.org]: "...XO can be recharged by human power. This is a critical advance for the half-billion children who have no access to electricity."
  • It's just you... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bushboy (112290) <lttc@lefthandedmonkeys.org> on Thursday June 26, @09:57AM (#23948387) Homepage
    ... in reality, it's incredibly large!

    Having lived in what is effectively a third world country, South African, for about 15 years, one thing is painfully obvious when compared with life in a first world country. The vast majority of people have little to no access to electricity, let alone the internet!

    It's very hard to understand this unless you witness it first hand - it's all to easy to think "but surely everyone needs to be on the internet?"

    The reality is for most of humanity, the struggle to put food on the plate and shelter themselves is the main driving force in their daily lives.

    I'm therefore suprised at how many people are online, not how few - completely the opposite reaction to the parent.
  • Tool or toy. (Score:4, Informative)

    by ROMRIX (912502) on Thursday June 26, @10:05AM (#23948521) Homepage

    Is it just me or does that seem incredibly small?

    Firstly you need to think of how many third world countries there are and also developed nations where there is a vast agricultural society where the internet is just an irrelevant "fancy" for city dwellers to keep themselves entertained. You and I might find the internet a necessary tool for our trades and daily lives but going back 20 or 30 years, could you see yourself becoming so dependent on such a device as a people? Instant information and communication have become woven into the very fabric of who we are but there are many more people out there that simply have no use for it. It steals idle time like heroin steals life. You only need to walk away from it for a few days, or hours in some cases, to feel its draw. Many that have fell into its grasp cannot free themselves, their very livelihood depends on it. For others, the majority it seems, it is simply a useless tool or senseless toy to occupy the minds of those who have access to it. To them it's as useful as a canoe is to a desert goat herder.
  • I predict... (Score:4, Informative)

    by hackstraw (262471) on Thursday June 26, @10:47AM (#23949141) Homepage

    that in 2008 only 50% of the planet will have a telephone.

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/med_tel_sub-media-telephone-subscribers [nationmaster.com]