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World's First 21Mbps EHSPA/HSPA+ Data "Call"
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on Monday December 08, @07:21PM
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gadgetopia writes "Although data 'calls' on 21Mbps networks and equipment have been made in the labs and in demonstrations, Australia is the first place in the world where such a call has been made on a commercial, deployed 21Mbps eHSPA network, with a full commercial launch due early 2009."
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given assurances that the proposal would be considered, however it now won't even be evaluated by the expert panel, which will make the recommendations to the Senator for Broadband and Communications. The government may now take steps to legislate so that Telstra can't build a network that competes with the NBN — leaving the incumbent to focus on wireless HSPA+ technology instead."
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Bring Lysol with me... (Score:2, Funny)
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But it's in Australia... With the new netfilters the gov't is mandating, you won't be able to access porn. Hell, SlashDot will be filtered because it mentions porn.
Next stop for the Aussie net patrol...cutting all links with the rest of the world. Once they find out this 'web filter thingie' doesn't prevent people from accessing 'bad' things, the only other solution will be to prevent them from accessing anything that cannot have the Aussie legal system applied to it.
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Forget the porn filters, they are just another politicians wet dream...
And forget the glitzy hey look at us and our new tech marketing.
The real issue here is Tel$tra's obscene data pricing on their mobile networks - even on their fixed line ADSL.
While the majority of ISPs in Oz shape you once you exceed your download cap, Tel$tra are still charging 15c / MB for excess on ADSL.
You think that's bad. How about 15c / KB for excess on mobile data plans. There are plans that avoid that rate, but not the stock pla
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You say 15c/KB like it's a bad thing, yet here in the states we're being charged 20c (or is it 25c now?) for 140B of data if you want to send it to another phone.
Telcos are greedy. This is not news. And please let me assure you that America having "competition" in this arena doesn't make a damned bit of difference for pricing (if anything it's worse - they avoid the monopoly laws, but there are so few of them that collusion is trivially easy and always overlooked by the powers that be). So while Netflix
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Yeah, might be time to get the "new" iPhone. It's "3"g
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And here's an image of Contiki multitasking on a C=64 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Contiki-C64.png [wikipedia.org]
Amazing. I thought the old Commie was too slow and too small to run multiple programs at the same time.
Too bad about the filter (Score:2, Insightful)
21Mbps will become 21Kbps once the government is done with it
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Won't somebody please think of the children?!
Contents of the call (Score:5, Insightful)
> Although data 'calls' on 21Mbps networks and equipment have been made
> in the labs and in demonstrations, Australia is the first place in the
> world where such a call has been made
Contents of the call:
"Hello. [Censored by Australian Internet Censorship Agency] home and then [Censored by Australian Internet Censorship Agency] and he said [Censored by Australian Internet Censorship Agency]. Thanks"
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[Censored by Australian Internet Censorship Agency]
Australian Communications and Media Authority [acma.gov.au]
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It makes compression very efficient when all you have to do is return "BLOCKED CONTENT" for any traffic outside .au
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"Network", not "Call" (Score:5, Interesting)
Yeah, it's good to see this technology taking root out there, but don't forget about the engineers who made the tech happen in the first place! (In fact, given that Telestra's HSPA+ is not yet an active commercial network, I'm wondering what makes this trial so different from the dozens of "laboratory calls" made so far?)
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Is it a breakthrough? (Score:4, Interesting)
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Standard lines in Japan are 100mbps up/down with 24 people sharing a head-end switch. That switch has 100mbps going back to the ISP. The price is about $20 for the fiber-optic line lease and $50 for the ISP service.
Typical rates are 20mbps down and 5mbps up [speedtest.net]. They are higher in the city, but I live out in the boondocks of Japan.
If you want, you can pay $75 per month and they will move you to a head-end switch with 12 users and 1gbps link back to the ISP. Then, you are almost guaranteed the full 100mbps s
frickin' telstra (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:frickin' telstra (Score:5, Informative)
Before any mods mark this as a troll, let me point out that Tel$tra still charge $150/GB for excess downloads on their broadband plans [bigpond.com].
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So, actual data rate is.... (Score:2)
... what, 750 kbps unless you're standing right next to a tower/
Grandma! (Score:2)
So, when's this kind of crazy a55 speed going to make it's way down to the street? You know, when is grandma going to see wild speed when she's calling the grandkids? 1-2 years? More?
"2009" doesn't mean it makes it to grandma, at least in any affordable sense of the word. 1-2 years. Move along.
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Grandma doesn't need 21mbps, nor would she care to pay for it!
VOIP is measured in dozens of kilobits per second. I believe with modern algorithms, 40 is ok to make a signal and get an OK signal, and 100 kbps is plenty. This signal is two hundred times faster.
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Not everything will be blocked. Only the really dangerous stuff like cartoon porn!
Re:All networks are fast... (Score:5, Funny)
The australians have been angry ever since that Giant Boot joke, anything simpsons related is a testy subject with them.
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Parent post inaccurate.
Optus is not a model 3G network, nor has its GSM
network that preceded it ever been. Posts from current and former Optus employees like this one [whirlpool.net.au] exhibit this. Back when I was on them a few years back, GPRS latency was regularly in the 600-1000ms range with regular connection timeouts*. Switched to another network, and boom, down to 300ms. My understanding is Optus runs GSM calls at half-rate bandwidth as well.. Definitely noticeable if you answer if you answer an Optus GSM (not 3G) cal
Re:Single call on an unloaded network is meaningle (Score:4, Funny)
yeah, but the cable might reduce the mobility of your phone, not to mention the problems caused when you get on a train
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