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BT Blocks Access To Pirate Bay 360

Barence writes "BT and other mobile broadband providers are blocking access to The Pirate Bay as part of a 'self-regulation' scheme with the Internet Watch Foundation. BT Mobile Broadband users who attempt to access the notorious BitTorrent tracker site are met with a 'content blocked' message. The warning page states the page has been blocked in 'compliance with a new UK voluntary code.' 'This uses a barring and filtering mechanism to restrict access to all WAP and internet sites that are considered to have "over 18" status,' the warning states. It goes on to list a series of categories that are blocked, including adult/sexually explicit content, 'criminal skills,' and hacking. It's not stated which category The Pirate Bay breaches, although the site does host links to porn movies."
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  • Bittorrent over 3G (Score:5, Interesting)

    by nicolas.kassis ( 875270 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:50AM (#27658693)
    Anybody actually do this? How many people really would do this at this time?
    • by LighterShadeOfBlack ( 1011407 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:56AM (#27658757) Homepage

      Yes but it's not about the practicality it's about the precedent and the principle. This is a fundamental shift in the attitude towards internet access where previously it was up to the user to decide what he should or shouldn't see and what might get him into trouble with the law for accessing. Now some manager at my ISP or even some unknown person working for/paying off a third party 'dangerous sites' list decides what my delicate little eyes are capable of handling.

      And they can fuck off right now.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:08AM (#27658959)

        And they can fuck off right now.

        Other than the quoted text, what will you do about this?

        I think that it generally has always been this way but the scope of what is not acceptable is expanding. The same companies provide the bulk of internet access as have provided the bulk of other communication for a long time and those companies are more tightly intertwined than ever before. The people who decided you shouldn't hear a toilet flush on TV will be the ones deciding which web sites you an visit, because they provide both your TV signal and your internet signal.

        • by _KiTA_ ( 241027 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @09:35AM (#27660257) Homepage

          Doesn't this mean that they're voluntarily giving up common carrier status?

          The old defense being that they were like phone companies, they had no responsibility in what their users did.

          Well, BT just announced that they are, in some small way, taking responsibility for what their users look at.

          So what happens when FOX releases yet another Summer Bomb in the theaters and decides to use Piracy on the Internet as an excuse? Well, BT banned TPB, that means since they DIDN'T ban the other sites this is partially their fault, right?

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by AvitarX ( 172628 )

        I'm willing to bet this has nothing to do with a dsire to content block, and everything to do with the relatively high costs per MB of providing 3G access.

        I have both 3G and Cable internet access. The cable bogs down a little bit, but I always get quicker DL than with a T1 line. On the 3G network shit goes way tits-up.

        When we had a power outage it damn near halted, and I assume that was just people trying to check the status of the power. I would hate to have to pay for a network be built up to support d

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by wisty ( 1335733 )

          I don't care whether it's for ethical reasons, or just to save bandwidth, I welcome it.

          The more draconian things get on the net, the more people shift to anonymous IP stuff. I don't personally use them (I don't have anything worth hiding, and I'd rather read a book than pirate a DVD), but free and anonymous communication is a great boon to society.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:22AM (#27659145)
        Abso-fucking-lutely. If BT starts doing stuff like this for home broadband as well, I'll move to a new provider who doesn't. And so will most of the rest of their customers. Do we really need to block this stuff "For the children"? or are we blocking it because people are scared of Big Content (Which, by the way, includes a number of pornography providers.) I am thoroughly sick of watching as these unelected scumfucks whittle away at our rights through lobbying and dishonest legislation. They kick up a fuss about people stealing their work, but nobody kicks up a fuss when they steal our rights by paying politicians to add secretive riders to legislation. Even people who don't file-share should be worried by this kind of move; if you read the legislation and 'voluntary guidelines' these people are producing, you'll see that they're not just interested in protecting their work; they're interested in controlling, utterly, how you use what you buy from them. DVD zoning is small potatoes compared to what these people want. They want a tiered internet, so they can control what content you see, and how fast. They want a 'music tax' so you pay them whether you use their content or not. They want 'three strikes' rules, so they can strong-arm you into obeying their rules. They want, in short, to be absolute dictators over everything we do, watch, and indeed create on the internet, and they're winning. They're winning because ordinary people are remaining silent, leaving the business of protesting to a hard-bitten bunch of activists. There nneeds to be an awareness campaign that show big content for what it is, and how it will affect not just file sharers and young computer users, but everybody who even vaguely uses the internet, including businesses. If people realise that what Big Content wants is to break their digital legs, I think they'll make it very clear that it's not what they want, with both their wallets and their votes. We need to remind politicians who they're supposed to be working for, because no amount of lobbyist money or donations will get you elected if everyone knows you're a corrupt, nepotistic shill.
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:38AM (#27659409) Homepage Journal

        Similar censorship is being introduced in Japan, in the name of protecting children with internet enabled mobiles from "harmful" web sites. I think you can opt out of their system, which unfortunately is not the case with BT.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by cstdenis ( 1118589 )

        I would hope IWF has learned it's lesson to not block wipedia.

        Actually, I hope it didn't learn it's lesson. The only way for them to die is to keep pissing people off by blocking mainstream stuff.

    • by Nossie ( 753694 ) <{IanHarvie} {at} {4Development.Net}> on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:08AM (#27658957)

      Just to let you guys know....

      I work for Vodafone ... and we do support for their mobile broadband... under the 'voluntary code' even facebook is blocked under the content control bar that is placed on EVERY vodafone sim... even eminem cant be downloaded on mobile phones without this bar being removed.

      to get removed you need either a valid credit card or go into a vodafone store with proof of ID.

      So my question is.... does this come off when you remove the bar or what?

      And btw, if you use BT over 3G you are a fucking goon .... 1GB = £15, you'd be cheaper actually buying your stuff. On the flip side of this at least you can go into a vodafone store and have it removed *almost* anonymously with BT it would appear you have to have some form of address and a 'trackable' account.

      just my 2 cents - but its a total pita when people do not have a cc and cant access fricking FB

      • by L4t3r4lu5 ( 1216702 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:15AM (#27659047)
        1GB = £15? That's not a bad deal.

        The entire Metallica back catalogue is available in 320kbps MP3 on many torrent sites, weighing in at roughly 900MB. That's 8 albums (St Anger doesn't count) for under the price of one album.
      • under the 'voluntary code' even facebook is blocked under the content control bar that is placed on EVERY vodafone sim

        Which is kind of funny, seeing as Facebook features quite prominently in Vodafone's mobile internet ads.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by mdwh2 ( 535323 )

        I'm curious about this too - if it's really the case that there is censorship that can't be removed on any "adult" site for mobile broadband, then that is major news (even leaving aside whether TPB has been fairly categorised or not).

        However, my understanding is it can at least be removed - as you say, with Vodafone they charge your credit card (£1 IIRC - you're supposed to get it back, but I never did...) You do that once (I had to do it for a site that wasn't remotely "adult"), and then it's removed

        • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

          by Tony Hoyle ( 11698 ) *

          The IWF block more than "potential child porn" - they've been caught blocking sites critical of the IWF for example. Being an unelected and unaccountable body they refuse to release the contents of the lists though, even to ISPs.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Urza9814 ( 883915 )

        I always laugh when people use 'a valid credit card' as a form of age ID. I had a 'valid credit card' at 16. I mean sure, technically it's a debit card, but it works as a credit card, and I've used it on such sites without any problems.

    • Anybody actually do this? How many people really would do this at this time?

      You might want to use to 3G from your phone or netbook in order to check at TPB that a new torrent is available, and then use the web console of your BT client (running at home) to add this torrent.

      Pretty theoretical yes, but why not ?
  • Let me... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Erik Soderstrom ( 727264 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:50AM (#27658697) Homepage
    What.. the... f*ck? Is the rest of the world watching China for guidance in this matter? What's happening? Seriously, this is just insane.
  • by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:51AM (#27658709)

    Tor [eff.org].

    Might take a bit 'til you find an exit node in China, but then you're free.

    • by derrida ( 918536 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:55AM (#27658741) Homepage
      Some other options:
      • BTJunkie
      • Demonoid
      • isoHunt
      • LokiTorrent
      • Mininova
      • myBittorrent
      • Seedpeer
      • ShareReactor
      • Suprnova.org
      • TorrentSpy
      • ...
    • by areusche ( 1297613 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:57AM (#27658781)

      Please don't do this. TOR isn't designed to handle torrenting. If you need to browse TPB then by all means go for it, but torrenting over TOR only destroys the network as a whole.

      On a side note, the thing about TOR that cracks me up is that most of the exit nodes always seem to land me in China. Shouldn't I want to avoid using IP addresses from China? What about that Great Firewall of China?

      • by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:02AM (#27658855)

        I didn't mean using TOR to route your P2P traffic through it, using it to access the page is what I meant.

        I'm fairly sure the great firewall of great britain is clumsily enough set to only block access to the port 0x50 traffic, so you should be fine once you have the hash.

        Aside from that, yes, China has the "Great Firewall". But they're too busy filtering anti-Chinese and anti-Communist stuff to care about petty things like our problems. Actually, the fun part is that China certainly doesn't mind if you accessed pages that your government considers "undesireable".

        I mean, think about how much your government cares about anti-Chinese pages.

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Asic Eng ( 193332 )
          I mean, think about how much your government cares about anti-Chinese pages.

          Or think about how much your government (applies to pretty much any western government) is prepared to bend over backwards for the Chinese government. The Chinese government already feels it has a right to complain and "be offended" by western governments meeting with the Dalai Lama or the right to ask western governments to support their "one China" policy. (What business do western governments have to support China's policy to c

          • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

            by MBGMorden ( 803437 )

            The thing that scares me is that it's literally looking like the safe havens may dry up. China has always been the country to point at and say "Well at least we don't have it THAT bad." when it comes to censorship and freedom of speech issues, but so many other countries are getting darned close, and fast. The US, UK, Australia, France, and Germany are all quickly approaching censorship levels that would have been deemed flat out unacceptable as little as 10 years ago. Depending on how bad it gets, and p

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Dan541 ( 1032000 )

        The point of using tor from western countries is to break the law, western law enforcement is not going to be able to go into china.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by gilgongo ( 57446 )

        FYI I use I2PSnark [wikipedia.org] - it's not fast (roughly half the speed of normal Bittorrent) but it's anonymous enough until my ISP starts *really* cracking my packets. The beauty of I2P is that the more people use it, the faster it gets!

    • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) *
      And how long before all the proxy lists are blocked too?
      • Dunno how much they enjoy rolling stones uphill...

        Besides, I'm pretty sure some provider in China won't mind my Euros to give me a proxy.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:53AM (#27658729)

    Here is how it works...
    1) They tell you blocking will ONLY be used for child porn etc (they promise!)
    2) Then blocking is added to terrorist material to "protect the public"
    3) Then blocking is added to "violent sexual material" to "protect women"
    4) ???
    5) Now it is open season in the UK to block anything

    Welcome to a free democracy. We're totally better than China's government, I promise ;)

    • by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:16AM (#27659059)

      Sure we're better! WE won't block anti-commie and anti-China pages! You can read all about the Tinam... Tian... well, where they shot all the students, ya know what I mean.

      How long you may still read about the Paris riots a few years ago, well, if you want that, get a Chinese proxy.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by rumith ( 983060 )
        That reminds me of an old Russian joke. A Russian and an American meet and argue about who has better freedom of speech.
        American: We have free speech: I can come to the White House and shout "Reagan is an asshole!"
        Russian: So do we: I can come to the Kremlin and shout "Reagan is an asshole!", too.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by mdwh2 ( 535323 )

      Simple private possession of 3 (for some values of) has already been criminalised, as of January 2009 - but curiously the IWF seemingly don't want to block it. Possibly because no one has a clue what exactly is meant to be covered by the law (not even the police or the Government - "it's up to the court to decide!").

  • by 8127972 ( 73495 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:54AM (#27658733)

    ....It sounds like people will have to start using Tor in the "free world."

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by Opportunist ( 166417 )

      Where is this 'free world' you keep talking about? Is there still room, and does it have internet access? I'd like to move there.

  • Not surprising (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Shrike82 ( 1471633 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:56AM (#27658753)
    I'm guessing BT are targetting a particular market demographic, judging by their adverts and the pricing structure they have. For me, their service is overpriced and I can get faster speeds, a lower price and a higher (unlimited actually) data cap with other ISPs. BT seem to be going for the "bewildered middle aged computer user" market with their Home Hub and associated services.

    Really then I'm not surprised that they're blocking TPB, since they're probably fairly confident that this will have little effect on the customers they're targetting, whilst it raises their reputation with watchdog groups and copyright associations.
  • Let me guess (Score:5, Interesting)

    by cheros ( 223479 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:56AM (#27658759)

    Voluntary code, no right of redress, zero transparency for your own protection, we have your best interest at heart (translated: we are scared of lawyers, and are too dumb to realise that by being selective we open the doors wide for missing the odd one and being held liable) etc etc.

    From the organisation that brought you Phorm (and didn't tell you), a new violation of their own service T&Cs.

    Lawyers, please sharpen pencils and expense account - BT has just dropped the soap in the shower..

    • Re:Let me guess (Score:5, Insightful)

      by TheRaven64 ( 641858 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:20AM (#27659111) Journal
      Exactly. It's a particularly nasty move by the government:
      • The IWF is 'independent' and therefore the government is not accountable for what they block.
      • ISPs are not required to block the lists that they publish[1] and so the government can not be blamed if they are overzealous.
      • The government has applied pressure to the major ISPs, and threatened them with severe regulation if they do not implement these block lists.

      If you write to the government, they can place the blame on the ISP (although, of course, no charges will ever be brought against the ISPs), but if you complain to the ISPs they will point out that the government has forced them to do this.

      On the off-chance that my MP is participating this out of ignorance, rather than malice, I have written him a second letter detailing the danger of this policy and asking him to raise parliamentary questions. The last letter, unfortunately, he forwarded to the Home Office, who simply replied with a meaningless form letter, so I don't hold out a great deal of hope for this one.

      [1] In the loosest possible sense of the word - the sites listed by the IWF are not available to the general public.

    • by AndrewNeo ( 979708 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:30AM (#27659257) Homepage
      I think they don't understand 1984 was a warning, not a guide.
  • Net neutrality (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Krneki ( 1192201 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:58AM (#27658789)

    This is why we need net neutrality regulations. Today is TPB, tomorrow it will be something else.

    Soon we will see a massive deployement of firewalls blocking everything apart from port 80 and 443. If you want to use VPN, torrents, POP email, ... pay or fuck off.

    No worries hackers will find a workaround and some will be able to use the Internet the way it was meant to be.

    • Re:Net neutrality (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Opportunist ( 166417 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:22AM (#27659129)

      No can do. 11 Million WoW players would instantly clog your call center if they can't access their fix.

      I thought I'd never say it, but I'm starting to be thankful that there are games like this. Mostly for using nonstandard ports that have to remain open, or ISPs will quickly lose a lot of customers. How many use ICQ? Skype? And so many other programs running through nonstandard ports that it just ain't funny anymore.

      Most of those programs are backed by companies that have a very keen interest in keeping their ports open. Closing them will quickly cost you customers since, well, if you can't use the internet the way you want it, why bother paying for it at all?

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Paul Jakma ( 2677 )

        Actually, it'd be a *good* thing if everything just used port 80 (for TCP) and whatever-popular-UDP-port (SIP, Skype?). Having application layer identifiers be part of the transport (TCP/UDP) specification just makes it too easy for the ISPs to discriminate between such applications.

        Hard-coded destination ports are an anachronism, the sooner they die and the application-identifier becomes opaque to ISPs, the better.

        (yes, we'd need some kind of connectionservice/process demultiplexer behind port 80 then; HTT

  • The problem with this sort of blocking is that first its very arbitrary, and second it often catches a lot legitimate sites. We discussed this not too long ago where its not even as simple as undoing a block. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/20/1239212 [slashdot.org]
  • by L4t3r4lu5 ( 1216702 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @07:59AM (#27658807)
    BT want to police the internet? No problem.

    Get all the CP and bomb schematics you can folks; It's BT's fault for not preventing access, now.
  • T-mobile not blocked (Score:2, Informative)

    by Ren.Tamek ( 898017 )

    I just navigated to thepiratebay.org successfully from my T-mobile phone in the UK. Just an FYI for anyone who has recently become interested in changing their mobile phone / internet contract.

    It's worth noting however that I have my porn filter off. You have to call your service provider and have adult content switched on for this service for some unknown reason.

  • A shame (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SCHecklerX ( 229973 ) <greg@gksnetworks.com> on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:00AM (#27658815) Homepage

    ...they won't do the same thing for MALWARE sites! You know, the places where people end up becoming part of a botnet.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by mcbridematt ( 544099 )

      Lets just bombard (DoS) IWF with reports for crap - Malware, legit pr0n, infact, any website, especially popular ones.

      Actual CP can be reported to police, not lusers.

  • Correction (Score:4, Informative)

    by Barence ( 1228440 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:00AM (#27658827) Homepage
    Please note that the Internet Watch Foundation has subsequently told PC Pro that, although it hosts information about the filtering scheme, it has no involvement with the filtering or the creation of the blacklist. This is down to the mobile broadband providers themselves.
    • Re:Correction (Score:4, Informative)

      by Ken D ( 100098 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @09:03AM (#27659785)

      if that's true, it's an out and out lie.

      I mean just look http://www.iwf.org.uk/ [iwf.org.uk] at the big red button used to create their blacklist.
      Even their FAQ says that they distribute a blacklist

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by Tony Hoyle ( 11698 ) *

        Not only that but they operate the filters - the ISPs are expected to forward the HTTP requests to the IWF for validation (some like BT may have their own systems, but the IWF definately won't allow smaller ISPs near them in case they leak the actual list, which is some kind of unofficial state secret). Note that they only cover port 80 so all you have to do to avoid the block is to move your site to port 81 :p

  • by Xest ( 935314 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:02AM (#27658857)

    With the Wikipedia block and Internet archive blocks in recent months I couldn't help but think the IWF was testing the water for a general power grab, trying to move far beyond their remit of producing a black list of child porn sites.

    I just found this FTA:

    http://www.iwf.org.uk/public/page.113.243.htm [iwf.org.uk]

    So it's true, the IWF has decided it has to be the moral crusader of society and should now start censoring all that it feels like.

    Bets on how long they try to extend this voluntary code which covers all the UK's main mobile providers to hardwired, static internet connections?

    The problem here isn't BT, it's not The Pirate Bay. It's the fucking IWF again.

    Time they're disbanded, the problems they cause now go far, far beyond any benefit they can ever provide.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by alnya ( 513364 )

      Mod Parent Up

      Too true. The problems with the IWF is the lack of oversight. I wrote to my MP, who replied it was nothing to do with them, as they are a seperate organization, and wrote to my ISP, who said they have nothing to do with the "blacklist" itself.

      The IWF seem to occupy this quasi public / private space in which the only way to get to them is via public opinion.

    • by Jellybob ( 597204 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:15AM (#27659051) Journal

      Bets on how long they try to extend this voluntary code which covers all the UK's main mobile providers to hardwired, static internet connections?

      They already have. The ISP I work for have been dropping any packets destined for sites on the IWF's blacklist for several years now.

      I should clarify that most of us aren't happy about it, but a gentleman's agreement is in place that we can either do it voluntarily, or the government can make it a legal requirement and heap more trouble to implement.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Xest ( 935314 )

        "They already have. The ISP I work for have been dropping any packets destined for sites on the IWF's blacklist for several years now."

        I understand landline ISPs already implement the IWF's child porn blacklist, my concern now is that they will try and implement this more general blacklist on those connections.

      • by TobascoKid ( 82629 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:28AM (#27659227) Homepage

        But if the government starts to do it then (theoretically) there's somebody to hold publicly accountable for what ends up on the blacklist. At the moment, the IWF can block whatever they like and answer to no one.

        Even better, once the government starts doing it, they might end up being forced to start paying ISPs to do the filtering (like they're doing with the email spying). Then it becomes a target for eventual cuts in public spending and one day may quietly disappear.

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by Tony Hoyle ( 11698 ) *

        So you're doing the government's work for them?

        There's no such agreement - just a bunch of veiled threats. Such legislation would have a hell of a job getting passed, and would probably end up a being good thing because it would force the IWF under public scrutiny rather than what it is at the moment - a completely unnaccountable and unelectedd secretive body who've decided they have the right to monitor and block internet access to the whole country.

        Luckily there are plenty of ISPs who have to balls to st

      • by dcollins ( 135727 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @10:25AM (#27661095) Homepage

        I should clarify that most of us aren't happy about it, but a gentleman's agreement is in place that we can either do it voluntarily, or the government can make it a legal requirement and heap more trouble to implement.

        That's not a "gentleman's agreement". That's called "being a pussy".

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      From what I read on the IWF site, they are not trying to be anything like a moral crusader, what they are trying to do is have a worldwide voluntary code which webmasters classify their content as "adult only" which allows a more effective filtering system for parents and religious types who don't want to be exposed to it. An open standard to use in a filter is much more effective in regards to false positives etc than we currently have. While we dont have any system in place, countries / ISPs / politicians
  • All the UK mobilecos (Score:4, Informative)

    by rpjs ( 126615 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:02AM (#27658865)

    block "adult" content by default, but will remove the block once you've proved you're over 18, usually by supplying a valid credit card number. T-Mobile even included Facebook in the block a year or two back. Dunno if they still do.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:44AM (#27659493)

      The website for the company I worked for was blocked too. The reason? A flatshare form on the site had the word "sex" (as in gender) on it. It was discovered when sales staff using laptops and Vodaphone mobile broadband couldn't demo our own site to clients without unlocking.

  • So you can't get to the website. What about just using Google that will normally find a lot of TPB torrents. Can you still connect to the tracker? My guess is you probably can.
  • You could theoretically make excuses for the cameras, but, man, when the British are blocking porn, you know that island nation has hit a rough patch in its history.

  • BT? (Score:2, Insightful)

    Come on, BT? For the 92% of the planet who don't live in the U.K. BT means bittorrent.
  • There will come a day (not too far off), when all the big torrent sites will be blocked by every major broadband provider in the U.S. and E.U. (along with any proxy list or other site designed to help circumvent the block).
  • Misleading Summary (Score:4, Informative)

    by shinier ( 949631 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:15AM (#27659045)
    Kinda missed an important bit of that article there, didn't you? "BT's warning message advises customers to contact customer services if they want the block on the site to be lifted." You still get to choose.
    • The paranoid tinfoil hat wearer that I am does assume if you choose to opt out, you land on a completely different list...

  • by JimXugle ( 921609 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:31AM (#27659275)

    How is this implemented?

    DNS?
    OpenDNS' IPs are 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220

    DPI?
    https://thepiratebay.org/ [thepiratebay.org]

  • by VShael ( 62735 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:37AM (#27659381) Journal

    These harsh restrictive laws are coming for all of us. It's just a matter of time.

    What we need right now, is to plan the ways of defeating this sort of rubbish, and circulating that information while the net is still relatively free.

  • by Flibberdy ( 780254 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:39AM (#27659417)
    O2 are my mobile service provider (owned by BT) and I just navigated to thepiratebay.org with absolutely no issues.
    I was using GPRS to do this rather than 3G though, so maybe that it... although that makes almost no sense.
    Unless we only want to stop children downloading porn at high speed?
  • by AHuxley ( 892839 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:42AM (#27659475) Journal
    Today TPB, tomorrow its your server.
    Time to learn about networks, wireless, how to use other connections.
    Time to become very smart and invisible.
    Time to become Anonymous and say ...
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by zwei2stein ( 782480 )

      Time to outlaw "unregulated internet"

      "Did you know that kid across street? He is coming out of jail in few weeks. Served 3 years for providing access to freedomNet."

  • by Aceticon ( 140883 ) on Tuesday April 21, 2009 @08:43AM (#27659481)

    Some months ago, when a bunch of stories starting coming up of large ISPs starting up voluntary schemes and trials and whatnot I actually left BT and moved to a smaller, friendlier ISP exactly with the expectation that this sort of thing would come to be.

    *big pat on the back*

    Shameless plug for my current ISP, ADSL 24 [adsl24.co.uk] - cheaper (for the typical user), just as fast (maybe even faster), no traffic shaping, no blocking, no bullshit. Never got any problem with them.

    By the way, last I checked, the ISPs to avoid at all costs in the UK (with regards to things like blocking and traffic shaping) where BT, Virgin and Tiscalli.

    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by u38cg ( 607297 )
      Indeed. Next question: I wouldn't touch BT with a bargepole for internet access, but unfortunately most ADSL companies require that you have a BT phone line to get their service. How do I stop giving them all my money altogether?

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